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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#621 » by arsenal6106 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:46 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
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#Orlando #Magic have fired Asst. GM Dave Twardzik and at least 4 scouts, the @orlandosentinel has learned.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#622 » by PeePee la Fritz » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:47 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
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#Orlando #Magic have fired Asst. GM Dave Twardzik and at least 4 scouts, the @orlandosentinel has learned.



Awesome!!!! Out with the old, in with the new. Gonna call it now, draft night is gonna be the start of a whole new direction and a new chapter for the franchise.....I can't wait
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#623 » by fendilim » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:47 am

Could be true that we are trading the 19th.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#624 » by The Real Dalic » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:47 am

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#Orlando #Magic have fired Asst. GM Dave Twardzik and at least 4 scouts, the @orlandosentinel has learned.

Not supprising, Rob probably walked in and looked around and laughed to himself in disbelief

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#625 » by Def Swami » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:48 am

fendilim wrote:Could be true that we are trading the 19th.

Exactly what I was thinking. Twardzik was spearheading the whole process. It's like throwing all the work he did out the window.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#626 » by blue and white » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:48 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:Damn, that was fast. 4 scouts too? I wonder what this says about our draft day plans. Twardzik was running the show this entire time for the draft. I know Henny has been following it too, and I wonder what he has in mind for the 19th.

Hope he doesnt trade out of it for money. He believes in getting talent through the draft so i cant see that happening unless someone takes hedo off our hands
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#627 » by CraZyPraiZ » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:50 am

LOL. We had a scouting dept? really? This is a joke right?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#628 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:52 am

CraZyPraiZ wrote:LOL. We had a scouting dept? really? This is a joke right?



They probably had a guy that looks a youtube vidoes on his laptop.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#629 » by blue and white » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:52 am

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Six #Orlando #Magic scouts also were dismissed along with Dave Twardzik.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#630 » by arsenal6106 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:52 am

Very odd time to be doing this.


Edit: Odd is probably the wrong word. Getting rid of a bunch of your scouts 4 days before the draft? Crazy.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#631 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:53 am

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VGOSWAMI wrote:Damn, that was fast. 4 scouts too? I wonder what this says about our draft day plans. Twardzik was running the show this entire time for the draft. I know Henny has been following it too, and I wonder what he has in mind for the 19th.

Hope he doesnt trade out of it for money. He believes in getting talent through the draft so i cant see that happening unless someone takes hedo off our hands



Rob may be trying to move up the draft. Its going to be an interesting draft night.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#632 » by Def Swami » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:56 am

6 scouts, wow
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#633 » by blue and white » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:57 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:6 scouts, wow

Im just amazed we had 6 scouts i was certain we had no more then 2 with our poor drafting ability
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#634 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:59 am

Magic house cleansing:
1- President gone
2- GM gone
3- Coach gone
4- Asst. coaches gone
5- Asst GM gone
6- 4 to 6 scouts gone
7- Players - to be determined (Dwight?, Jameer?, Ryan?, JJ?, Clark?, Orton?)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#635 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:00 am

magic04life wrote:Jarrod Rudolph is saying that he has a "hunch" that Hennigan won't meet with Dwight at all.

If this turns out to be the truth, it's about damn time that someone took charge in this organization and stopped Dwight from single handily hijacking it.

Rudolph is saying he doesn't think they meet, this week. Rob has a lot to worry about already this week: draft, coach hire, scouts hire, impending FA strategy. I'm sure he wants to meet with Dwight but that's a lot to cover in 5 days for new GM.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#636 » by londoncollin » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:00 am

Wasn't Rob in charge of scouting in OKC?

So it's not really like we're going into the draft scoutless.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#637 » by Darth Magic » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:01 am

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#638 » by NickAnderson » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:01 am

prorl wrote:Magic house cleansing:
1- President gone
2- GM gone
3- Coach gone
4- Asst. coaches gone
5- Asst GM gone
6- 4 to 6 scouts gone
7- Players - to be determined (Dwight?, Jameer?, Ryan?, JJ?, Clark?, Orton?)


We fired them too? I dont remember seeing this.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#639 » by Def Swami » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:03 am

Four days after hiring a new general manager, Rob Hennigan, the Orlando Magic have shaken up their front office further.

Hennigan on Sunday started to restructure the Magic's basketball operations department, firing Assistant General Manager Dave Twardzik and members of the team's scouting staff, the Orlando Sentinel has learned.


Team spokesman Joel Glass confirmed that Twardzik, regional scout Tom Conrad, regional scout Greg Stratton, pro scout Bob Staak, international scouting coordinator Sam Foggin, NBA advance scout Al Walker and an international scout have been let go. Scouting coordinator Brian Wright will remain on the staff.

Hennigan and team officials declined to comment.

Twardzik has been given the option to remain with the team through Thursday's NBA draft. It's unclear whether he will do so. He did not immediately return a message for comment.

Twardzik, 61, joined the Magic in 2003 as the team's director of player personnel. Two years later, he was promoted was assistant general manager, a position he held ever since.

One of Twardzik's main responsibilities was heading the team's draft-preparation efforts.

Twardzik, a former NBA player and former NBA general manager, had been leading the Magic's basketball operations department since the team parted ways with Otis Smith on May 21 until Hennigan was hired on Wednesday.

The team held two separate workouts for draft prospects in recent weeks.

The Magic own the 19th and 49th overall picks in Thursday's draft, but it is possible that the team will look to trade those picks.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVII: Offseason Editio 

Post#640 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:08 am

with all these firings, I know a few people's sources are no longer.....sources. Hate to see people lose their jobs, but they weren't getting it done.

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