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arkknight1988 wrote:the fact that clee hasn't signed with anyone yet is interesting. probably waiting to see if dwight lands in hou and he will stay.
RickB-Orlando wrote:arkknight1988 wrote:the fact that clee hasn't signed with anyone yet is interesting. probably waiting to see if dwight lands in hou and he will stay.
More likely it's because he has stated his asking price is "somewhere over the MLE." No chance he gets that.
Personally I think the guy may be a fine bench player, but wildly overrated on this board.
RickB-Orlando wrote:arkknight1988 wrote:the fact that clee hasn't signed with anyone yet is interesting. probably waiting to see if dwight lands in hou and he will stay.
More likely it's because he has stated his asking price is "somewhere over the MLE." No chance he gets that.
Personally I think the guy may be a fine bench player, but wildly overrated on this board.
MoMM wrote:RickB-Orlando wrote:arkknight1988 wrote:the fact that clee hasn't signed with anyone yet is interesting. probably waiting to see if dwight lands in hou and he will stay.
More likely it's because he has stated his asking price is "somewhere over the MLE." No chance he gets that.
Personally I think the guy may be a fine bench player, but wildly overrated on this board.
Well, JJ got somewhere over the MLE and no one complains here, CLee is in the same level.
rcklsscognition wrote:We need someone in Orlando that is going to bring other players here. Whoever it is, that has to happen, otherwise there is no way to form a good enough team to win a title with the teams already assembled. When you can't sign veterans for the minimum and bring over solid guys for the MLE that are taking less money to do so, you just don't have the cap flexibility to do it.
InFlames wrote:MoMM wrote:Well, JJ got somewhere over the MLE and no one complains here, CLee is in the same level.
JJ is better than Lee.
MoMM wrote:RickB-Orlando wrote:arkknight1988 wrote:the fact that clee hasn't signed with anyone yet is interesting. probably waiting to see if dwight lands in hou and he will stay.
More likely it's because he has stated his asking price is "somewhere over the MLE." No chance he gets that.
Personally I think the guy may be a fine bench player, but wildly overrated on this board.
Well, JJ got somewhere over the MLE and no one complains here, CLee is in the same level.
MoMM wrote:The Effect wrote:They also got multiple got 2 1st rounders and 2 2nd rounders
So lets see, 2 1st, 2 2nds and a very large TPE? doesnt sound like a bad trade to me, hell, that actually sounds better than the reported LA/Cavs/orl trade
So all these people that say that trading for dwight is a big risk because he will just walk for nothing need to realize that even if he walks, it will most likely be via a Sign and trade and they will still get something back, and since not to many team will be able to afford dwight next year, he likely wont be a joining a super team like lebron did so those draft picks wont be too bad
Toronto got nothing for Bosh and just a 1st for McGrady, for example.
RickB-Orlando wrote:As I said, CLee is wildly overrated on this board.
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The Rockets have waived Jon Leuer and Jerome Jordan. When they clear waivers, Rockets will sign Omer Asik to offer sheet.
RickB-Orlando wrote:As I said, CLee is wildly overrated on this board.
LarsV8 wrote:Leur and Jordan waived by Rockets.
48 hours begin now.
cvMagic wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:We need someone in Orlando that is going to bring other players here. Whoever it is, that has to happen, otherwise there is no way to form a good enough team to win a title with the teams already assembled. When you can't sign veterans for the minimum and bring over solid guys for the MLE that are taking less money to do so, you just don't have the cap flexibility to do it.
This is a great point.
Even if you are for a total rebuild - you cannot discount this point.
Because here's the question a lot of posters seem to be avoiding or discounting - if the name of the game is to assemble young talent and great picks...
Why the hell is Houston thinking about giving a lot of that up for one superstar. Wouldn't they be better off just keeping their young players and the toronto pick and building for the future?
No. Because they are several years ahead of the Magic in terms of retooling, and they see the cold hard facts. Unless you literally draft a Lebron, a Durant, or a D Wade you are not going to win a championship unless you trade for or sign a superstar.
You can't just draft very good players. You have to draft that elite top 5, or at the very least top 10 talent in the entire NBA that only crops up every two or three years. And even then you have to get LUCKY and win a LOTTERY just to have a chance to get them.
The example everyone keeps using is OKC. Fine. But they got lucky. Perhaps luckier than any team since the Bulls had Jordan fall into their laps. What happens if Portland had picked Durant number one? OKC had no control over that, another team made their decision for them.
Just be careful for how bad you hope this team gets next year, because for every OKC there are still a dozen teams trying to break out of a decade of mediocrity.
ivDT wrote:weird. just got a direct message from dwight on twitter. gonna ignore it.
ivDT wrote:weird. just got a direct message from dwight on twitter. gonna ignore it.
InFlames wrote:cvMagic wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:We need someone in Orlando that is going to bring other players here. Whoever it is, that has to happen, otherwise there is no way to form a good enough team to win a title with the teams already assembled. When you can't sign veterans for the minimum and bring over solid guys for the MLE that are taking less money to do so, you just don't have the cap flexibility to do it.
This is a great point.
Even if you are for a total rebuild - you cannot discount this point.
Because here's the question a lot of posters seem to be avoiding or discounting - if the name of the game is to assemble young talent and great picks...
Why the hell is Houston thinking about giving a lot of that up for one superstar. Wouldn't they be better off just keeping their young players and the toronto pick and building for the future?
No. Because they are several years ahead of the Magic in terms of retooling, and they see the cold hard facts. Unless you literally draft a Lebron, a Durant, or a D Wade you are not going to win a championship unless you trade for or sign a superstar.
You can't just draft very good players. You have to draft that elite top 5, or at the very least top 10 talent in the entire NBA that only crops up every two or three years. And even then you have to get LUCKY and win a LOTTERY just to have a chance to get them.
The example everyone keeps using is OKC. Fine. But they got lucky. Perhaps luckier than any team since the Bulls had Jordan fall into their laps. What happens if Portland had picked Durant number one? OKC had no control over that, another team made their decision for them.
Just be careful for how bad you hope this team gets next year, because for every OKC there are still a dozen teams trying to break out of a decade of mediocrity.
All of this is true, but the difference is that we have always been able to attract big name free agents. Places like Minnesota and Milwaukee, for example, don't have that luxury.