Game 40: Orlando Magic (16-23) @ Los Angeles Clippers (26-14) - 10:30 PM ET

[pepe1991]

we just need to play 82 games vs clippers and we get superstar AG


btw where are the people who said Green is a good solid signing and he will play only 10-15 minutes?

He is playing 24 mpg . Hurts youth development and hurts team . Why he is not regualr member of Rudež -Wilcox DNP squad is still beyond me

[Shady Franchise]

When CP3 drives to the lane, and Gordon (the defender) flies back a couple of feet, how do the refs not call an offensive foul? CP3 pushes off every...single....darn...time! I wish someone on the Magic had his passion though!

[Bergmaniac]

I hope Vogel has given up and trying to tank, otherwise there's just no excuse for stuff like coming out of a timeout and going straight away to Jeff Green posting up one of the best defenders in the league Mbah a Moute and using Augustin and Green so much.

It really felt most of our players cared a lot more about padding their stats last night than about the win. A lot of forced and quick shots.

It's time to just play the young players from now as much as possible, we are obviously not making the playoffs.

[OrlandoDream]

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The one bright spot of this franchise. We better not find a way to mess this up. We should have rode AG to the finish line last night and fed him the ball. This team is going no where fast it's time to give AG a bigger role. Frank has to realize this.

Frank realizes this its his selfish and stupid teammates that dont. Green taking fadeaway and like 4 of 5 shots in one stretch made me nauseous. Its Frank to point this out, hold him accountable, or sit his ass down. This is one of the few times where Skiles tough love is missed.

Vuc
AG
Mario
Evan
EP

Trade everybody else but Biz and get high picks and real NBA players. We should have been tanking 3 games ago.

We've lost the last 4 games? Technically we have been tanking lmao

1-6 since the win vs Grizzlies.

#PureMagoc

[OrlandoDream]

#StealthTank

Well that would explain Jeff green playing heavy minutes. To think this roster is close to the playoffs is laughable. Rest of the season is about keep pushing and developing AG. If only he had the freedom to do what Jeff green does. If only.

I was saying they weren't a playoff team in the offseason. What was it that I was called? A negative nancy?

You also said that Victor Oladipo will be just as good as Jimmy Butler when he gets older so ya know.... Pick you battles my man

[MagicMadness]

When Jeff Green is one of your key players, you know your team is pretty bad.

Nice game from Gordon, though.

[FFBlitzace]

I'm still here watching the games, just very frustrated. I'm a beaten man. I know there's some rough places in this world where people are having a hard time, but surely I have it harder than anyone else on this planet. Impoverished and hungry? Yeah well, at least your village won the coconut basketball tournament this year.

[OrlandoNed]

I'm still here watching the games, just very frustrated. I'm a beaten man. I know there's some rough places in this world where people are having a hard time, but surely I have it harder than anyone else on this planet. Impoverished and hungry? Yeah well, at least your village won the coconut basketball tournament this year.

I feel ya. I used to be very emotionally invested in every game. Yelling at the TV and such. (Real mature right? ) Lately I don't even make a peep through every type of embarrassing loss imaginable with zero change in blood pressure. I just can't invest myself with the writing still on the wall.

[djhunkyherbs]

Jeff Green was awful last night, but what I found to be even worse than the pathetic isolation plays were the three wide open threes that he missed (we lost by 9). I really think if we could increase Gordon's minutes and somehow replace Green with a backup SF who could shoot and not take up a lot of minutes (someone like Omri Casspi or even Mike Dunleavy), we would be a lot better off.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Well that would explain Jeff green playing heavy minutes. To think this roster is close to the playoffs is laughable. Rest of the season is about keep pushing and developing AG. If only he had the freedom to do what Jeff green does. If only.

I was saying they weren't a playoff team in the offseason. What was it that I was called? A negative nancy?

You also said that Victor Oladipo will be just as good as Jimmy Butler when he gets older so ya know.... Pick you battles my man

and? I still dont think the comparison was that far fetched considering they've had similar trajectories particularly as 24 year olds. Its not like saying AG is the the next LeBron or Payton is the next Rondo.

Obviously Jimmy has continued to improve as a scorer particularly as a guy that draws fouls at an elite level which sets him apart. I stand by everything I say and I'm not scared of being wrong.

[MagicMadness]

I'm still here watching the games, just very frustrated. I'm a beaten man. I know there's some rough places in this world where people are having a hard time, but surely I have it harder than anyone else on this planet. Impoverished and hungry? Yeah well, at least your village won the coconut basketball tournament this year.

I feel ya. I used to be very emotionally invested in every game. Yelling at the TV and such. (Real mature right? ) Lately I don't even make a peep through every type of embarrassing loss imaginable with zero change in blood pressure. I just can't invest myself with the writing still on the wall.

After the emotional high of the Dwight era, six straight losing seasons will do that to any of us. No all-stars, and arguably the most exciting player we've had since Dwight (Oladipo) was traded away. I'm grateful to live in a city that has a pro-NBA team, but every year of losing makes it harder to get truly invested.

[Versubio]

I'm still here watching the games, just very frustrated. I'm a beaten man. I know there's some rough places in this world where people are having a hard time, but surely I have it harder than anyone else on this planet. Impoverished and hungry? Yeah well, at least your village won the coconut basketball tournament this year.

I feel ya. I used to be very emotionally invested in every game. Yelling at the TV and such. (Real mature right? ) Lately I don't even make a peep through every type of embarrassing loss imaginable with zero change in blood pressure. I just can't invest myself with the writing still on the wall.

After the emotional high of the Dwight era, six straight losing seasons will do that to any of us. No all-stars, and arguably the most exciting player we've had since Dwight (Oladipo) was traded away. I'm grateful to live in a city that has a pro-NBA team, but every year of losing makes it harder to get truly invested.

I never found Oladipo that " exciting" . I think Gordon has much more potential to be special than Oladipo ever did.

[PennytoShaq]

I feel ya. I used to be very emotionally invested in every game. Yelling at the TV and such. (Real mature right? ) Lately I don't even make a peep through every type of embarrassing loss imaginable with zero change in blood pressure. I just can't invest myself with the writing still on the wall.

After the emotional high of the Dwight era, six straight losing seasons will do that to any of us. No all-stars, and arguably the most exciting player we've had since Dwight (Oladipo) was traded away. I'm grateful to live in a city that has a pro-NBA team, but every year of losing makes it harder to get truly invested.

I never found Oladipo that " exciting" . I think Gordon has much more potential to be special than Oladipo ever did.

Agree. Gordon is much more exciting and is showing that he can become a true two way player.

[Skin]

Very proud of Gordon in January. Really starting to string together some consistency. The LAL game looks more like an outlier rather than the other way around (as it has been in the past). Nice to see a bad game here and there instead of a good game here and there!

[Statlanta]

I really think if we could increase Gordon's minutes and somehow replace Green with a backup SF who could shoot and not take up a lot of minutes (someone like Omri Casspi or even Mike Dunleavy), we would be a lot better off.

I don't know maybe we should look for a young player in the league that can come in and shoot for us that's on a good cost controlled contract. Maybe there's a Croatian overseas guy that Rob knows...

[NEM]

I'm still here watching the games, just very frustrated. I'm a beaten man. I know there's some rough places in this world where people are having a hard time, but surely I have it harder than anyone else on this planet. Impoverished and hungry? Yeah well, at least your village won the coconut basketball tournament this year.

I feel ya. I used to be very emotionally invested in every game. Yelling at the TV and such. (Real mature right? ) Lately I don't even make a peep through every type of embarrassing loss imaginable with zero change in blood pressure. I just can't invest myself with the writing still on the wall.

Myself to a T

[Nemesis21]

Jeff Green was awful last night, but what I found to be even worse than the pathetic isolation plays were the three wide open threes that he missed (we lost by 9). I really think if we could increase Gordon's minutes and somehow replace Green with a backup SF who could shoot and not take up a lot of minutes (someone like Omri Casspi or even Mike Dunleavy), we would be a lot better off.

Bench Green, like the far end of the bench. Play Hezonja.

[OrlandoDream]

I was saying they weren't a playoff team in the offseason. What was it that I was called? A negative nancy?

You also said that Victor Oladipo will be just as good as Jimmy Butler when he gets older so ya know.... Pick you battles my man

and? I still dont think the comparison was that far fetched considering they've had similar trajectories particularly as 24 year olds. Its not like saying AG is the the next LeBron or Payton is the next Rondo.

Obviously Jimmy has continued to improve as a scorer particularly as a guy that draws fouls at an elite level which sets him apart. I stand by everything I say and I'm not scared of being wrong.

Im not starting this with you again. Watch Jimmy Butler this year for a full game and that is all you need to see to realize why Oladipo will never be in that elite level as a player. Obviously we both have different opinions but both their games have expanded since this discussion took place and Jimmy Butler is this year increasing the gap between his skillset and Oladipo. Oladipo is having a season almost identical to last years. The player he is today is the player he is going to be. To say he will take a leap to JM level stardom just has no realistic evidence.

[NBlue]

I was saying they weren't a playoff team in the offseason. What was it that I was called? A negative nancy?

You also said that Victor Oladipo will be just as good as Jimmy Butler when he gets older so ya know.... Pick you battles my man

and? I still dont think the comparison was that far fetched considering they've had similar trajectories particularly as 24 year olds.

[Blue_and_Whte]

You also said that Victor Oladipo will be just as good as Jimmy Butler when he gets older so ya know.... Pick you battles my man

and? I still dont think the comparison was that far fetched considering they've had similar trajectories particularly as 24 year olds. Its not like saying AG is the the next LeBron or Payton is the next Rondo.

Obviously Jimmy has continued to improve as a scorer particularly as a guy that draws fouls at an elite level which sets him apart. I stand by everything I say and I'm not scared of being wrong.

Im not starting this with you again. Watch Jimmy Butler this year for a full game and that is all you need to see to realize why Oladipo will never be in that elite level as a player.

I'm not starting anything. I'm clarifying my stance in detail since your post made it seem like I made a random claim with no basis. I've watched Jimmy Butler play this season and acknowledged that his elite skill set which is what sets him apart, but that has nothing to do with looking back at their careers nor does it discredit the fact that they looked similar as 24 year olds.

Obviously we both have different opinions but both their games have expanded since this discussion took place and Jimmy Butler is this year increasing the gap between his skillset and Oladipo. Oladipo is having a season almost identical to last years. The player he is today is the player he is going to be. To say he will take a leap to JM level stardom just has no realistic evidence.

I understand the leap that Butler has taken, and again, acknowledged that as elite especially getting to the FT line 9 times per game which has always been the knock on Dipo. Bottom line is that neither of us are clairvoyant and the Butler we see today isn't the same one we saw at 24. I'm not guaranteeing Dipo will take a jump in year 5 the same way Butler did in year 4 but I think he will get better.. Who knew Jimmy would go from 13 ppg to a 20 ppg scorer in one offseason? The point is I wont sit back while you make it sound as if I made some baseless comment intentional or not.