Official 2021 NBA Draft Thread

RookieStar · Post #621 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Mar 2, 2021 8:17 pm

zaymon wrote:
GelbeWand09 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Even Kuminga? knwoing we have JI or Chuma? unless everyone here is convinced he is a full time SF? Which for me he is a wing in the same mold as AG.

But we will see. I myself have seen less than a months worh of games from him to judge early

TBH i havent watched the top 5 at all yet. I cant say anything about Kuminga. But AG's way bigger problem is that he cant beat anyone off the dribble. You still can be a super efficient scorer at SF/PF with mediocre 3P shooting if your drive is unstoppable. Zion is super eff. without taking 3's at all, because he can get to the rim whenever he wants & is a god like finisher. Can Kuminga beat SF with his dribble?

I think Kuminga has more shake than AG, but not much. Both Cade and Kuminga doesnt look like lead ball handlers at all. Thats why i am not very high on us tanking this year.

Cade isn't a lead handler? Well yeah he doesn't have the handles of an Irving or even a Fultz type of PG but as a 6'8 PG that can shoot, drive and overpower smaller PGs sent to stop him? He is very good. Cade can lead a team as its general, directing traffic and scoring. If he can't blow by the quicker guards he will shoot over them.

zaymon · Post #622 » by **zaymon** » Tue Mar 2, 2021 8:59 pm

RookieStar wrote:
zaymon wrote:
GelbeWand09 wrote:
TBH i havent watched the top 5 at all yet. I cant say anything about Kuminga. But AG's way bigger problem is that he cant beat anyone off the dribble. You still can be a super efficient scorer at SF/PF with mediocre 3P shooting if your drive is unstoppable. Zion is super eff. without taking 3's at all, because he can get to the rim whenever he wants & is a god like finisher. Can Kuminga beat SF with his dribble?

I think Kuminga has more shake than AG, but not much. Both Cade and Kuminga doesnt look like lead ball handlers at all. Thats why i am not very high on us tanking this year.

Cade isn't a lead handler? Well yeah he doesn't have the handles of an Irving or even a Fultz type of PG but as a 6'8 PG that can shoot, drive and overpower smaller PGs sent to stop him? He is very good. Cade can lead a team as its general, directing traffic and scoring. If he can't blow by the quicker guards he will shoot over them.

Right now he is overpowering college kids it wont happen in the nba. His assist to turnover ratio is atrocious not looking like floor general at all. He is still young and talented but not a cant miss prospect as advertised.

RookieStar · Post #623 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Mar 2, 2021 9:10 pm

zaymon wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
zaymon wrote:I think Kuminga has more shake than AG, but not much. Both Cade and Kuminga doesnt look like lead ball handlers at all. Thats why i am not very high on us tanking this year.

Cade isn't a lead handler? Well yeah he doesn't have the handles of an Irving or even a Fultz type of PG but as a 6'8 PG that can shoot, drive and overpower smaller PGs sent to stop him? He is very good. Cade can lead a team as its general, directing traffic and scoring. If he can't blow by the quicker guards he will shoot over them.

Right now he is overpowering college kids it wont happen in the nba. His assist to turnover ratio is atrocious not looking like floor general at all. He is still young and talented but not a cant miss prospect as advertised.

He is overpowering 6'1-6-3 guards in college where unless I slept under a rock, he will also encounter 6'1-6'6 Guards in the league. However his assis/turnover ratio will be better in the league because he won't be surrounded by .. well let's face it, his team leaves a lot to be desired.

Post #624 » by **Bensational** » Tue Mar 2, 2021 9:24 pm

I think Kuminga will figure out his best handles relatively early in his career and really progress. A bit of Jaylen Brown muscle on the perimeter with more Kawhi-like footwork to get to his spots from the high post in. More methodical. I think he will be a real stud.

If Cade can get on a team with smart off ball movers and shooters his playmaking will really start to show. Watch how quickly he will adopt that Luka/Simmons stalwart of using screens to get defenders on their back behind them and wreaking play making havoc from that position.

RookieStar · Post #625 » by **RookieStar** » Tue Mar 2, 2021 11:42 pm

Guys... Moody is playing right now if anyone wanna watch.

Speaking of... in casewe drop out of the top 5.. which SG do you guys want?

Moody vs Bouknight vs Keon ?

Post #626 » by **Knightro** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:36 am

RookieStar wrote:Cade isn't a lead handler? Well yeah he doesn't have the handles of an Irving or even a Fultz type of PG but as a 6'8 PG that can shoot, drive and overpower smaller PGs sent to stop him? He is very good. Cade can lead a team as its general, directing traffic and scoring. If he can't blow by the quicker guards he will shoot over them.

I don't think he's a point guard at all in the NBA.

He feels much more like a big wing who can pass, not a lead guard.

RookieStar · Post #627 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 1:43 am

Knightro wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Cade isn't a lead handler? Well yeah he doesn't have the handles of an Irving or even a Fultz type of PG but as a 6'8 PG that can shoot, drive and overpower smaller PGs sent to stop him? He is very good. Cade can lead a team as its general, directing traffic and scoring. If he can't blow by the quicker guards he will shoot over them.

I don't think he's a point guard at all in the NBA.

He feels much more like a big wing who can pass, not a lead guard.

For me, he is in the mold of Ben and Luka.. big dudes that can direct a team. Thus you can have your PG be a scoring guard instead of a distributor. Its understandable though if other people have different views on him.

MasterGMer · Post #628 » by **MasterGMer** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:55 am

Green or Kuminga. I think Kuminga can play 2 guard, am I right?

I think we need to out tank Houston so we guarantee a top 5 pick. Our schedule is definitely helping us

RookieStar · Post #629 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 5:03 am

MasterGMer wrote:Green or Kuminga. I think Kuminga can play 2 guard, am I right?

I think we need to out tank Houston so we guarantee a top 5 pick. Our schedule is definitely helping us

kuminga a 2? i dunno... we are even 50/50 on him being a wing or a big.

vs

green. probably the most electrifying scorer in the top 5?

Husky1 · Post #630 » by **Husky1** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 8:05 am

RookieStar wrote:Guys... Moody is playing right now if anyone wanna watch.

Speaking of... in casewe drop out of the top 5.. which SG do you guys want?

Moody vs Bouknight vs Keon ?

Moody looks an insane prospect as well. With those 3 + top 5 we can’t go wrong. Just need to land in top 8. Surely we can’t stuff this up

basketballRob · Post #631 » by **basketballRob** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 12:04 pm

Husky1 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Guys... Moody is playing right now if anyone wanna watch.

Speaking of... in casewe drop out of the top 5.. which SG do you guys want?

Moody vs Bouknight vs Keon ?

Moody looks an insane prospect as well. With those 3 + top 5 we can’t go wrong. Just need to land in top 8. Surely we can’t stuff this up

He's only 18, with 7' wingspan, and plays SG.

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RookieStar · Post #632 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 12:32 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Husky1 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Guys... Moody is playing right now if anyone wanna watch.

Speaking of... in casewe drop out of the top 5.. which SG do you guys want?

Moody vs Bouknight vs Keon ?

Moody looks an insane prospect as well. With those 3 + top 5 we can’t go wrong. Just need to land in top 8. Surely we can’t stuff this up
He's only 18, with 7' wingspan, and plays SG.

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of the three, its Moody that shows the least amount ofathelticism.Someone compared hik to Harden in getting his points. like Harden, they dont look athletic buy they can still score. but unlike Harden, Moody does t have that rep yet so i dunno how effevtive his moves will be in the league.

Skybox · Post #633 » by **Skybox** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 2:57 pm

Like everyone here, I'm hoping we're in the mix for some star power at the very top of the draft but-if we are not - you got to like Kispert from Gonzaga...deadeye volume shooter, tough and mature (I don't care that he's a senior-I don't want projects unless they're star upside)...on Woj Pod they were comparing him to Joe Harris.

MagicFan101 · Post #634 » by **MagicFan101** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:33 pm

A dream scenario for me is ending up with Cade or Green + adding a non-lottery FRP for Evan or AG and snagging a surprise prospect.

... Suggs, Kuminga and Mobley are all amazing “consolation” prizes which I would be very happy about. I’m just really starting to like the idea of those two specifically.

drsd · Post #635 » by **drsd** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:54 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:A dream scenario for me is ending up with Cade or Green + adding a non-lottery FRP for Evan or AG and snagging a surprise prospect.

The upper clasemen all look good here:
Corey Kispert leads this list and one can add Ochai Agbaji, Quentin Grimes and RJ Nembhard. All of these players look like they could play NBA-ball right-now. And for a late-FRP, such players look like value selections.

drsd · Post #636 » by **drsd** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 4:59 pm

At the top of the second round, a lot of PGs are starting to see their names on the board. As Orlando will probably need a new 3rd string PG, it would be a good pick to go after a Josh Giddey or Daishen Nix.

RookieStar · Post #637 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 8:56 pm

If we have a roster of Fultz , MCW ,Cole and Cade/Suggs then we don't need another PG or at least a priority. If it's Green / Kuminga /Mobley then yeah I think they might try

However, for our 2nd pick I want to go against the usual and have us pick a sweet shooting/scoring big. Matt Hurt or Luka Garza anyone? lol

Magicfanatic82 · Post #638 » by **Magicfanatic82** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 10:59 pm

RookieStar wrote:If we have a roster of Fultz , MCW ,Cole and Cade/Suggs then we don't need another PG or at least a priority. If it's Green / Kuminga /Mobley then yeah I think they might try

However, for our 2nd pick I want to go against the usual and have us pick a sweet shooting/scoring big. Matt Hurt or Luka Garza anyone? lol

I agree. The best talent might be a big early 2nd.
Garza, Petrusev, Hurt and Huff can all shoot. Quenta could be a backup / birch replacement.
Or we keep addressing the wing/ guard problem with a falling player Boston/Clark/Christopher or a specialist like Tre Mann.

Magicfanatic82 · Post #639 » by **Magicfanatic82** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 11:01 pm

I like Moodys skill set and size. The knocks on him where the same things being said about Booker.

RookieStar · Post #640 » by **RookieStar** » Wed Mar 3, 2021 11:11 pm

Magicfanatic82 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:If we have a roster of Fultz , MCW ,Cole and Cade/Suggs then we don't need another PG or at least a priority. If it's Green / Kuminga /Mobley then yeah I think they might try

However, for our 2nd pick I want to go against the usual and have us pick a sweet shooting/scoring big. Matt Hurt or Luka Garza anyone? lol

I agree. The best talent might be a big early 2nd.
Garza, Petrusev, Hurt and Huff can all shoot. Quenta could be a backup / birch replacement.
Or we keep addressing the wing/ guard problem with a falling player Boston/Clark/Christopher or a specialist like Tre Mann.

If we have Cade/Suggs/Green the guard problem would be addressed. For a wing, Im tired of us always trying our luck with the longbois Wes, Frazier, JAckson, etc etc scrubs... just get shooting big for the 2nd