The 2022 NBA Draft Thread

Petre1978 · Post #621 » by **Petre1978** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:28 pm

https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2022-nba-mock-draft/

Magic get Jabari Smith Jr at 1.

Tyty Washington in front of Ivey at 4.

Skybox · Post #622 » by **Skybox** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:43 pm

Petre1978 wrote:https://nbadraftroom.com/p/2022-nba-mock-draft/

Magic get Jabari Smith Jr at 1.

Tyty Washington in front of Ivey at 4.

Jabari is my #1 at the moment, but I think ALL mocks are out the window until some evaluation of Sharpe is considered, he could turn the whole thing upside down if he delivers (or even plays).

KillMonger · Post #623 » by **KillMonger** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:11 pm

For me it's Smith/holmgren 1a/1b right now.... Banchero is right there but..... Something about his game seems off to me.... I can't quite put my finger on it.. I need to watch more film.

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jezzerinho · Post #624 » by **jezzerinho** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 6:30 pm

Knightro wrote:
jezzerinho wrote:Ivey's shooting scares me. No playmaking chops either, so for now he's strictly a SG. Not a standout defender either

His form is a little low and flat, but he's made enough threes off the dribble with defenders close to him already this year for me to start to warm up significantly to it translating. If he was only shooting when he's wide open, I'd be much more concerned. He's quietly ticked his FT% up to 75% too.

I wouldn't say he has no playmaking chops either. 5.9 AST/100 is more than acceptable and actually quite good for a 2.

I just think he's a really good shooting guard prospect.

He wasn't a great shooter in HS, some I'm concerned about small sample size. This could just be a golden shooting streak for him. Coupled with the form, I'm not convinced - not yet anyway.

He gets assists but it's all vanilla passes - at least he's not a black hole for sure but there's no great signs yet of high level court vision.

There's time for him to confirm his chops against good oppo, as Purdue look to be going fairly far this year.

KillMonger · Post #625 » by **KillMonger** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:22 pm

shaedon sharpe does make things a lot more interesting though....great for us, more options at the top

jonbob17 · Post #626 » by **jonbob17** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:46 pm

Smith looks to be an elite shooter, plays good defense, and is not just a wait for the ball shooter. Already can pull up, and put the ball on the floor.
I think we'd have to pull the trigger regardless of fit.

Just thinking a head to line ups, there are some sick ones. 1 Suggs, 2 Franz, 3 JI, 4 Smith...or play Franz at 3 and JI 5 for short periods.
Even if we draft Chet, we are going to have the opportunity to play LONG and switchable with hopefully enough offense. We still have Okeke, and if we retain MCW, or if Fultz ever figures out how to play defense (or shoot)

If you told me were going to spend one of our picks last year and a top pick this year on 6'10 forwards my head may have exploded....i don't know...we could end up beating Toronto in the race for the longest starting wing span.

We just need those lottery gods to forget about the 92 and 93 lotteries.

jonbob17 · Post #627 » by **jonbob17** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:51 pm

basketballRob wrote:Ivey looks more athletic than Suggs with the same size.

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He reminds me a lot of Suggs, similar situations in college too. For both of them to optimize their value in the NBA they need to be playing on the ball. I don't know if we want to invest our such a high pick (in either draft) in a smallish shooting guard, secondary handler.

Post #628 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:57 pm

I like all 4 of Holmgren, Banchero, Smith, Ivey. I don't have a particular order of preference. But, I do think those are the 4 best prospects in the draft. And I'd be very excited for the Magic to land anywhere in the top 4 of this lottery. I think the upside of Holmgren is most interesting to me still. I'd probably take him #1.

jonbob17 · Post #629 » by **jonbob17** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:05 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
He probably is most talented player, but you can even look in this highlights how much he struggles with physicality. He is like skinny version of already skinny Porzingis. I don't even care all that much about inability to fight below rim, i'm just scared of potential injuries with that frame. Also, imo, there will be some patterns with his development. On start he will be incapable of doing anything "bigs" do, so he will spend majority of time standing in corner for 3 (look Pokuševski, Bender) and by the year 2-3, when he finally gets some muscles, he will be looke down-at as "bust" because he couldn't do more.

Kristaps Porzingis, as rookie, weights 223 pounds. Chet weights sub 200. it's impossible to ignore it. He weights less than majority of guards.Gary Harris today has 15 pounds more than him, being foot shorter

How many centers would we be worried about destroying him in the post. Embiid, maybe JV. I don't really think the weight thing is as big an issue as we all make it out to be anymore. I mean I'd be scared to death if he took a charge, that he might shatter.

The reason you take him is for the skills and the shot blocking. If he turns into a KP who can pass and a better shot blocker, that seems extremely valuable

Injuries are always a concern with these bigs. I'd almost prefer he didn't put on weight. Not sure that frame can handle it, that might be what causes the micro fractures and all that.

Max Power · Post #630 » by **Max Power** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 8:08 pm

Just from what little I’ve seen of them, I think Smith, Ivey and Banchero can certainly be huge for this team. I watched Ivey last night. We definitely can use an athlete of his caliber. From what I’ve seen of Holmgren, I think he snaps in half before the All Star break. We need a guy with some sure fire durability.

Post #631 » by **Knightro** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:19 pm

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OrlChamps2030 · Post #632 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:25 pm

Knightro wrote:

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Paolo has been showing some nice vision for a while now. Of the top bigs, I think he has the highest chance of becoming an “offensive hub”

There just aren’t many 19 year old bigs showing this level of offensive skill at this age IMO.

KillMonger · Post #633 » by **KillMonger** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:38 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
He probably is most talented player, but you can even look in this highlights how much he struggles with physicality. He is like skinny version of already skinny Porzingis. I don't even care all that much about inability to fight below rim, i'm just scared of potential injuries with that frame. Also, imo, there will be some patterns with his development. On start he will be incapable of doing anything "bigs" do, so he will spend majority of time standing in corner for 3 (look Pokuševski, Bender) and by the year 2-3, when he finally gets some muscles, he will be looke down-at as "bust" because he couldn't do more.

Kristaps Porzingis, as rookie, weights 223 pounds. Chet weights sub 200. it's impossible to ignore it. He weights less than majority of guards.Gary Harris today has 15 pounds more than him, being foot shorter

How many centers would we be worried about destroying him in the post. Embiid, maybe JV. I don't really think the weight thing is as big an issue as we all make it out to be anymore. I mean I'd be scared to death if he took a charge, that he might shatter.

The reason you take him is for the skills and the shot blocking. If he turns into a KP who can pass and a better shot blocker, that seems extremely valuable

Injuries are always a concern with these bigs. I'd almost prefer he didn't put on weight. Not sure that frame can handle it, that might be what causes the micro fractures and all that.

the weight is a concern but you can't be scared to pull the trigger just because of that...pass on a talent because of the thought he might get injured one day? even though he's always been skinny and as far as i know has never had a major injury(don't quote me on this) with his combination of skills at his size? you HAVE to consider him

RookieStar · Post #634 » by **RookieStar** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:42 pm

Right now, no one really has distanced themselves from the pack of top-3 or even top-5 to some.

Its still too early. I mean Last draft, Cade didnt rely distance himself as the #1 until he hit clutch shots after clutch shots.

I think though that if Sharpe plays even a few gamea and blows up. or even if he takrs UK to the NCAAT elite-8.... he would be a serious #1 choice.

RookieStar · Post #635 » by **RookieStar** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:44 pm

KillMonger wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
He probably is most talented player, but you can even look in this highlights how much he struggles with physicality. He is like skinny version of already skinny Porzingis. I don't even care all that much about inability to fight below rim, i'm just scared of potential injuries with that frame. Also, imo, there will be some patterns with his development. On start he will be incapable of doing anything "bigs" do, so he will spend majority of time standing in corner for 3 (look Pokuševski, Bender) and by the year 2-3, when he finally gets some muscles, he will be looke down-at as "bust" because he couldn't do more.

Kristaps Porzingis, as rookie, weights 223 pounds. Chet weights sub 200. it's impossible to ignore it. He weights less than majority of guards.Gary Harris today has 15 pounds more than him, being foot shorter

How many centers would we be worried about destroying him in the post. Embiid, maybe JV. I don't really think the weight thing is as big an issue as we all make it out to be anymore. I mean I'd be scared to death if he took a charge, that he might shatter.

The reason you take him is for the skills and the shot blocking. If he turns into a KP who can pass and a better shot blocker, that seems extremely valuable

Injuries are always a concern with these bigs. I'd almost prefer he didn't put on weight. Not sure that frame can handle it, that might be what causes the micro fractures and all that.

the weight is a concern but you can't be scared to pull the trigger just because of that...pass on a talent because of the thought he might get injured one day? even though he's always been skinny and as far as i know has never had a major injury(don't quote me on this) with his combination of skills at his size? you HAVE to consider him

Agree.. I mean there are 2 skinny longbois our GM drafted that turned out ok... ( JI ans GA)

So unless doctors who examined him claims this guy will never go above 210lbs because of this and that... you consider him and aay bulk him.up 5-10lbs a year.

Post #636 » by **SOUL** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 9:50 pm

Max Power wrote:We need a guy with some sure fire durability.

Not sure this exists. Also, skinny doesn't equal injury prone and never has.

Post #637 » by **SOUL** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:01 pm

Worrying about his functional strength at the next level is perfectly fine. But just associating skinny = injured isn't a thing, like thinking a guy with muscles is going to play 82 games lol.

In that case, guys like Zion, Embiid, Blake shouldn't have missed any years coming into the league because they were more developed, bigger, etc. Even Jokic you wouldn't call a peak physical specimen but his game isn't reliant on athleticism like Zion is despite both being bigger dudes, and he' hasn't missed many games in his career.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #638 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:20 pm

RookieStar wrote:
KillMonger wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:
How many centers would we be worried about destroying him in the post. Embiid, maybe JV. I don't really think the weight thing is as big an issue as we all make it out to be anymore. I mean I'd be scared to death if he took a charge, that he might shatter.

The reason you take him is for the skills and the shot blocking. If he turns into a KP who can pass and a better shot blocker, that seems extremely valuable

Injuries are always a concern with these bigs. I'd almost prefer he didn't put on weight. Not sure that frame can handle it, that might be what causes the micro fractures and all that.

the weight is a concern but you can't be scared to pull the trigger just because of that...pass on a talent because of the thought he might get injured one day? even though he's always been skinny and as far as i know has never had a major injury(don't quote me on this) with his combination of skills at his size? you HAVE to consider him

Agree.. I mean there are 2 skinny longbois our GM drafted that turned out ok... ( JI ans GA)

So unless doctors who examined him claims this guy will never go above 210lbs because of this and that... you consider him and aay bulk him.up 5-10lbs a year.

Isaac is an example of skinny long boi that turned out okay?

Uhhh

RichCollab · Post #639 » by **RichCollab** » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:30 pm

1. Jabari Smith
2. Chet
3. Sharpe
4. Banchero
5. Ivey

This is my current list. I believe you have to go for the higher upside player.

Dwight Howard was a risk/reward pick. Emeka Okafor was the most NBA ready and many thought most of the year the top pick for Dwight’s draft. Banchero feels like Okafor to me.

RookieStar · Post #640 » by **RookieStar** » Sat Jan 22, 2022 12:00 am

OrlChamps2030 wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
KillMonger wrote:the weight is a concern but you can't be scared to pull the trigger just because of that...pass on a talent because of the thought he might get injured one day? even though he's always been skinny and as far as i know has never had a major injury(don't quote me on this) with his combination of skills at his size? you HAVE to consider him

Agree.. I mean there are 2 skinny longbois our GM drafted that turned out ok... ( JI ans GA)

So unless doctors who examined him claims this guy will never go above 210lbs because of this and that... you consider him and aay bulk him.up 5-10lbs a year.

Isaac is an example of skinny long boi that turned out okay?

Uhhh

if not for the freak injury? yes he has.. more than okay in fact.

Who is your early favorite?