The Anthony Black Thread

dsg2021 · Post #621 » by **dsg2021** » Sun Jul 9, 2023 10:00 pm

If you don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say it.

(I am mainly speaking to myself).

penny_nz · Post #622 » by **penny_nz** » Sun Jul 9, 2023 11:30 pm

Have to say I was pleasantly surprised, he looked very poised, even after a run of quick TO's. He's got great size for the PG position, looking forward to see more of him in Summer League

KillMonger · Post #623 » by **KillMonger** » Sun Jul 9, 2023 11:54 pm

What I loved was he was not scared at all, like paolo he had no jitters. He played like he'd been there before, that's half the battle.

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ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #624 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Sun Jul 9, 2023 11:56 pm

KillMonger wrote:What I loved was he was not scared at all, like paolo he had no jitters. He played like he'd been there before, that's half the battle.

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He also has good self awareness. In his interview, you can really hear his frustration with his turnovers. He didn't get too high or low about his performance.

Post #625 » by **eyriq** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:58 am

Read on Twitter

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tiderulz · Post #626 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 11:53 am

eyriq wrote:

Read on Twitter
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lol, the 20 yr old calling the 19 yr old "kid"

drsd · Post #627 » by **drsd** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:01 pm

eyriq wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Black looks a lot like his cohort's "Markelle Fultz" in that video.

basketballRob · Post #628 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 1:12 pm

Black could end up as good as Penny. He's 2.5 years younger than Penny at the start of his career.

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Residual-Heat · Post #629 » by **Residual-Heat** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:55 pm

eyriq wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Its cause he compared his game to Giddey's lol. Its interesting that he also compared himself to early version of SGA.

jonbob17 · Post #630 » by **jonbob17** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 4:55 pm

eyriq wrote:

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Strong praise. During Saturday's game Weltman said Black's best skill is unlocking his teammates. I have been arguing for a long time the exact player this team needs is a healthy Lonzo Ball, who's best skill was unlocking his teammates.

Granted Lonzo has been a very good shooter, the last several years...no matter how awful his shot has looked over the years....of course Ball may never play again..so there is that.

Josh Giddey is right there in that same category. And I am hoping Black is that same kind of player...shooting is part of the puzzle, if he can figure it out, he is the exact kind of player this team needs to reach it's potential

JoshuaPotter · Post #631 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:53 pm

Residual-Heat wrote:
eyriq wrote:

Read on Twitter
?t=4CJCvtPj9kSOvCp3rtMczw&s=19

Its cause he compared his game to Giddey's lol. Its interesting that he also compared himself to early version of SGA.

Who is SGA in this case?

Residual-Heat · Post #632 » by **Residual-Heat** » Mon Jul 10, 2023 5:55 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:
Residual-Heat wrote:
eyriq wrote:

Read on Twitter
?t=4CJCvtPj9kSOvCp3rtMczw&s=19

Its cause he compared his game to Giddey's lol. Its interesting that he also compared himself to early version of SGA.

Who is SGA in this case?

Giddey's teammate, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hZgcQPivlbU

Post #633 » by **eyriq** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:52 am

Two games into summer league and he's really standing out with his steals.

Post #634 » by **Knightro** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:11 am

eyriq wrote:Two games into summer league and he's really standing out with his steals.

I think he's looked exactly how he was projected to look, both good and bad, so far.

He already has good connector skills which could potentially develop into great connector skills. He plays with his head up. He moves the ball quickly and effectively. He looks for and hits outlet passes. He will guard the other team's better players whether they're smaller guards or bigger wings. He knows how to make rotations already as a help defender. He'll get on the floor for 50/50 balls. He basically has that sort of high IQ, "I bring more to the table than I take off it" type of game which generally speaking goes a long way to raising the floor of whatever team he's on as a whole.

But he also can't shoot. And beyond that, his lack of shooting prowess also manifests itself out in the respect that he's just not a natural scorer either.

And that shooting piece is what's going to determine if he's just a high level role player with great connector skills or if he's a star.

Now he's just 19 so he has an extremely long run way to get it figured that shooting piece smoothed out obviously, but that's just what I've seen so far.

He's 100% going to be floor raising player. I just don't really see a scenario where he outright busts with his connector skills being what they are. But he'll need to develop significantly as a shooter to ultimately become a ceiling raising player too.

Post #635 » by **eyriq** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:39 am

Knightro wrote:
eyriq wrote:Two games into summer league and he's really standing out with his steals.

I think he's looked exactly how he was projected to look, both good and bad, so far.

He already has good connector skills which could potentially develop into great connector skills. He plays with his head up. He moves the ball quickly and effectively. He looks for and hits outlet passes. He will guard the other team's better players whether they're smaller guards or bigger wings. He knows how to make rotations already as a help defender. He'll get on the floor for 50/50 balls. He basically has that sort of high IQ, "I bring more to the table than I take off it" type of game which generally speaking goes a long way to raising the floor of whatever team he's on as a whole.

But he also can't shoot. And beyond that, his lack of shooting prowess also manifests itself out in the respect that he's just not a natural scorer either.

And that shooting piece is what's going to determine if he's just a high level role player with great connector skills or if he's a star.

Now he's just 19 so he has an extremely long run way to get it figured that shooting piece smoothed out obviously, but that's just what I've seen so far.

He's 100% going to be floor raising player. I just don't really see a scenario where he outright busts with his connector skills being what they are. But he'll need to develop significantly as a shooter to ultimately become a ceiling raising player too.

Agree with everything you said. A lot of what he brings is due to IQ and athleticism right now. His ability to attack the paint and create contact is largely due to athleticism and IQ, for example. Skill development will be critical as you can tell he knows what he needs to do.

tooler · Post #636 » by **tooler** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:51 am

His poor shooting makes it a lot easier to not make him the starting point guard. I can go back to sleep now on the rookies and focus on our existing players and their playoff push.

Post #637 » by **Knightro** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:38 pm

tooler wrote:His poor shooting makes it a lot easier to not make him the starting point guard. I can go back to sleep now on the rookies and focus on our existing players and their playoff push.

The problem with this is that he really can't be an off-ball player as a non-shooter because he will be ignored and it will become 4 on 5 for the rest of the players on the court.

Just my opinion, but it's more damaging to a team as a whole if you're bad shooter at the 2/3 since you just won't be defended whereas if you have the ball in your hands and a live dribble, you have to at least be defended against driving to the basket.

JoshuaPotter · Post #638 » by **JoshuaPotter** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:47 pm

Knightro wrote:
tooler wrote:His poor shooting makes it a lot easier to not make him the starting point guard. I can go back to sleep now on the rookies and focus on our existing players and their playoff push.

The problem with this is that he really can't be an off-ball player as a non-shooter because he will be ignored and it will become 4 on 5 for the rest of the players on the court.

Just my opinion, but it's more damaging to a team as a whole if you're bad shooter at the 2/3 since you just won't be defended whereas if you have the ball in your hands and a live dribble, you have to at least be defended against driving to the basket.

I'll agree. Also its summer league and 2 games.

Hardly anything to worry about just this second.

From a PG perspective we are comparing it to a guy who .9 - 1.5 attempts a game from 3pt the last two seasons. Well be fine. Black unlike Fultz seems like he will be good at getting contact and the +1.

Viper1500 · Post #639 » by **Viper1500** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:05 pm

His FG% is whatever, it's his free throws that have been awful and have looked even worse. It resembles a random fan trying to earn some money shooting free throws during a time out.

basketballRob · Post #640 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:48 pm

I don't think Black has shot enough to really gauge what he'll be. He's 7 months younger than both Suggs and Cole when they got drafted, and we know they struggled shooting their rookie seasons.

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