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Re: 2024-2025 NBA Playoffs Round 1, Game 1: (7) Orlando Magic at (2) Boston Celtics - 3:30pm ET 

Post#621 » by BlueBalls » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:32 pm

I’m amazed at all the angry back & forth. The Magic aren’t winning this series and I’ll be shocked if they win a game.

This team is badly flawed and had no business in the playoffs. They need a new GM, several new players and yes, probably a new coach. But the new coach is far less important than the other 2 areas.
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Post#622 » by Rainwater » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:33 pm

Boston is just too stacked
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Post#623 » by basketballRob » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:34 pm

Now we have to watch the Cheatles beat the Cavs.

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Post#624 » by BlueBalls » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:35 pm

The balance tips in favor of win-now starting this offseason though, IMO.



This is an incredibly silly perspective. I have no idea where people come up with these takes.
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Post#625 » by Rainwater » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:36 pm

BlueBalls wrote:I’m amazed at all the angry back & forth. The Magic aren’t winning this series and I’ll be shocked if they win a game.

This team is badly flawed and had no business in the playoffs. They need a new GM, several new players and yes, probably a new coach. But the new coach is far less important than the other 2 areas.


Orlando is definitely a playoff team. I would honestly take them over most teams in the east outside of Bost, Mil, NY and Cleveland. The issue is Boston is just a better team.
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Post#626 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:38 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Hopefully what we saw from Cole, JI, AB, and Wendell will carry over into this series. I just don’t trust them being consistent like that.

And not surprising…. We didn’t get the play in versions of these guys…
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Post#627 » by Skybox » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:39 pm

basketballRob wrote:If you subtract Wendell and Franz, the rest of the team was 9-18 from 3.

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If you subtract Wendell and Franz...I don't remember seeing anything else.

I've got to say Gary is a legit defender and a smart vet...he puts up too many zeroes, but he's a tough POA defender.

Isaac is losing me, he runs around like a nut, works his ass off but he's just not as impactful as he once was.

I like Caleb more and more...I think he could be much better on a team with an actual offensive scheme.

I hardly even remember seeing AB out there. Disappointing because his length and motor should've helped on the perimeter D.

Cole is Cole...he steps on the court with immediate heat check. I respect that. He knows what he's there for. Just not happening today - or most days.

Cory Joseph is the best 3rd string PG in the league...too bad he's our starter. I really do like him, but this is too much to ask. Interesting putting him on Tatum, I guess.

KCP's foul on Tatum was hardly a foul, let alone a flagrant...but I get it. I really like KCP - I just don't like him too much for ORL. If he wasn't making $22m per, I'd be happy to have him backing up Suggs and Franz. He's a confident shooter - I just wish he'd hunt shots more aggressively...it's Gary all over again but at 3x the price. I think any decent playoff team would want to add KCP if they've got the financial ability to do so. He might even be the guy to replace Jrue if/when BOS makes those tough financial decisions they're facing. I hope ORL aren't the ones to take on Jrue's last massive deal and get to watch him decline before their eyes...he's not the guy (anymore) for the big playmaking role we need filled.

If I forgot to mention anybody...they were forgettable today.
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Post#628 » by Knightro » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:40 pm

doct3r dr3 wrote:Paolo & Franz: 59 points, 24-51 FG, 5-13 3P
Rest of Team: 27 points, 10-30 FG, 5-14 3P

... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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Post#629 » by cedric76 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:41 pm

i think we could win 2 games in that serie
Suggs, AB, Tyus, Jase
Bane, AB, TDS , Jett
Franz, TDS, Panda
P5, JI, Panda, Moe
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Post#630 » by Bensational » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:42 pm

Rainwater wrote:Boston is just too stacked


I was just looking at the boxscore for the game we beat them whilst severely underhanded:

Goga/TDS/KCP/Queen/Suggs

They were only missing Tatum and played an 8-man rotation.

TDS and Queen went nuclear from 3 with a combined 7-12. WCJ and Cole came off the bench and scored a bunch against Kornet.

Maybe that gets looked at as the series goes and adjustments are made?
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Post#631 » by Skybox » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:42 pm

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The balance tips in favor of win-now starting this offseason though, IMO.



This is an incredibly silly perspective. I have no idea where people come up with these takes.


Unless your mockery is because it should have been last year, you're way off. A good GM can see what he has and plan the build around them (meaning Paolo & Franz). All of this BS stalling for "analysis" just means he's not good at his job. Nobody on this team is really tailor-made for their supporting cast. It's an embarassment.
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Post#632 » by eyriq » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:43 pm

We had three runs this game. The 17-5 run in the second quarter was obviously the biggest and got us the lead.

Lineups during the run:
CoJo/KCP/Franz/Paolo/WCJ
CoJo/KCP/Caleb/Paolo/WCJ
Cojo/KCP/Caleb/Paolo/JI

A 6-0 run in the 3rd to get us within 11:
Cole/Harris/Franz/Paolo/WCJ

A 7-2 run in the 4th to get us within 14:
CoJo/KCP/Franz/Paolo/WCJ

Just not enough. Role players struggle on the road in the playoffs they say and they certainly did tonight.
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Post#633 » by OnlyFranz22 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:44 pm

Skybox wrote:
OnlyFranz22 wrote:
penny_nz wrote:
If it is, 2 teams that started their rebuild after us, I'm going to be feeling things watching that...


Cavs also made a big move after getting their stud PG in Garland who can actually make plays.

Magic hold on to all their pieces lol


but but what if they're good somewhere else because we couldn't wait 5 years and an extension into their career to see something reliable ? :banghead:



Lmao love you skybox!


We will be legit contenders one of these years bud.
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Post#634 » by OnlyFranz22 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:46 pm

Rainwater wrote:Boston is just too stacked


This organization has every opportunity to be just as stacked.

One pays tremendously and the other thinks they have great young bench pieces lol
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Post#635 » by OnlyFranz22 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:48 pm

basketballRob wrote:Now we have to watch the Cheatles beat the Cavs.

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Cavs in Cleveland are gonna smack the **** out of this heat team lol.

As an ex Cleveland monsters hockey ticket holder.

Being in Ohio. Cavs can win it all. Kenny Atkinson is an offensive genius.

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Post#636 » by SOUL » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:48 pm

The funny thing is, when Paolo's mom criticized the offense for not involving Franz/Paolo enough for one game, people went in on "by committee" and not putting the ball in our best players hands enough. At that point, role players shooting a lot = bad.

Now it's the opposite.

Our fanbase simply doesn't know what works on offense. It just parrots whatever is gaining momentum lol. That sums up intellectual discussion as a whole and why I don't post much anymore. Everything is agenda driven and a blame-fest and everyone has this idealistic notion of how they want this offense to run without having a clue in the world to do that besides just being like "X player didn't play" or "just simply get this guy open".

Yes, a game where both Franz/Paolo gets theirs while our role players also contribute is the best. Do you really think that our team isn't trying to do that and that defenses don't try to key in on that? It's why our defense is so good. We try to make other teams have to force their offensive into something that isn't the best for them (i.e. Trae taking a lot of shots while limiting threes for the Hawks) - it's literally by design and other teams are trying to stop that from occurring, which is easier said than done.

Basketball by nature is extremely simple while scheming has gotten insanely harder.

We just saw the Lakers with 3x the offensive talent struggle their first game at home. **** isn't simple or easy, especially without the personnel.
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Post#637 » by TheChaser » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:48 pm

I see a lot of you, who before the game were talking about it already being a loss, complaining about the lack of help we have for Paolo and Franz…first off, shame on you. Secondly, with all of the injuries this year we got **** playoff seeding and drew a Boston team that no one really thinks that we can beat. I think we knew that the front office had this year to further see what we have (and I know they are painfully patient sometimes) and this upcoming offseason, the Paolo extension offseason, is when we start to make major moves. Now granted, if the front office doesn’t go all in this offseason they got to go. But there’s no need to be freaking out over issues we already knew we had and cannot fix right now.
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Post#638 » by Bensational » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:49 pm

Knightro wrote:I think I would have to at least call the Nuggets about Jamal Murray, huge contract and all.


I’d hope for the C’s to implode somehow so that they don’t want to swallow the luxury tax penalties and they look to downgrade White.
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Post#639 » by OnlyFranz22 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:50 pm

Rainwater wrote:
BlueBalls wrote:I’m amazed at all the angry back & forth. The Magic aren’t winning this series and I’ll be shocked if they win a game.

This team is badly flawed and had no business in the playoffs. They need a new GM, several new players and yes, probably a new coach. But the new coach is far less important than the other 2 areas.


Orlando is definitely a playoff team. I would honestly take them over most teams in the east outside of Bost, Mil, NY and Cleveland. The issue is Boston is just a better team.


Okay….

What about the West?
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Post#640 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:51 pm

Wendell, Cole, and Harris were no shows last playoffs as well. I don’t think they can handle the pressure of the playoffs, we have to trade them in the off season.
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