2025-2026 Regular Season Game 3: Chicago Bulls (1-0) at Orlando Magic (1-1) - 7pm ET

[basketballRob]

Paolo + Franz just can’t work together and it’s time to answer the question of just whose team is this.

Paolo isn't eligible to be traded for a while. So do you think we should trade Franz? I think he's eligible to be traded in December.

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Magic news: Paolo Banchero admits he 'couldn't believe' Orlando's ...
Paolo Banchero is currently eligible for a trade, as he signed a rookie max contract extension with the Orlando Magic in July 2025. His new deal will begin with the 2026-27 NBA season, making him eligible to be traded starting in the 2025-26 season, as long as the new contract has not yet taken effect

Trade eligibility: As of the 2025-26 NBA season, Banchero is on the books for the Orlando Magic but is not yet subject to the terms of his new, long-term extension. This makes him eligible to be traded during this season.


Unless I’m missing something Paolo seems to be trade eligible still. I don’t believe I’d pick Paolo over Franz to build this team around. Franz is just to fundamentally solid and reliable.

I don't think he's eligible until his extension kicks in.

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[three3d]

Paolo isn't eligible to be traded for a while. So do you think we should trade Franz? I think he's eligible to be traded in December.

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Magic news: Paolo Banchero admits he 'couldn't believe' Orlando's ...
Paolo Banchero is currently eligible for a trade, as he signed a rookie max contract extension with the Orlando Magic in July 2025. His new deal will begin with the 2026-27 NBA season, making him eligible to be traded starting in the 2025-26 season, as long as the new contract has not yet taken effect

Trade eligibility: As of the 2025-26 NBA season, Banchero is on the books for the Orlando Magic but is not yet subject to the terms of his new, long-term extension. This makes him eligible to be traded during this season.


Unless I’m missing something Paolo seems to be trade eligible still. I don’t believe I’d pick Paolo over Franz to build this team around. Franz is just to fundamentally solid and reliable.

I don't think he's eligible until his extension kicks in.

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There is nothing preventing them from trading him now, he’s under contract and doesn’t have a no trade clause. So whenever the trade window opens he’s eligible. Portland makes sense, Paolo does deserve to be the face of his own franchise and it makes sense for him to have interest in Portland and Portland have interest in him. Paolo is originally from that area anyway as we all know, I think he grew up like 3 hours away from Portland. Avdija next to Franz would look nice but we all know Paolo could net us A LOT more than just one for one swap.

[basketballRob]

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Magic news: Paolo Banchero admits he 'couldn't believe' Orlando's ...
Paolo Banchero is currently eligible for a trade, as he signed a rookie max contract extension with the Orlando Magic in July 2025. His new deal will begin with the 2026-27 NBA season, making him eligible to be traded starting in the 2025-26 season, as long as the new contract has not yet taken effect

Trade eligibility: As of the 2025-26 NBA season, Banchero is on the books for the Orlando Magic but is not yet subject to the terms of his new, long-term extension. This makes him eligible to be traded during this season.


Unless I’m missing something Paolo seems to be trade eligible still. I don’t believe I’d pick Paolo over Franz to build this team around. Franz is just to fundamentally solid and reliable.

I don't think he's eligible until his extension kicks in.

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There is nothing preventing them from trading him now, he’s under contract and doesn’t have a no trade clause. So whenever the trade window opens he’s eligible. Portland makes sense, Paolo does deserve to be the face of his own franchise and it makes sense for him to have interest in Portland and Portland have interest in him. Paolo is originally from that area anyway as we all know, I think he grew up like 3 hours away from Portland. Avdija next to Franz would look nice but we all know Paolo could net us A LOT more than just one for one swap.

Paolo can't be traded until 7/1/26.

NBA Trade Restrictions https://share.google/aNgBPYOALYT0unROn

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[VFX]

They aren’t trading Paolo or Franz.

Stop.

They’d sooner fire Mosely.

[Audi]

I know we all wanted to see an obvious offensive system in place that accentuates the player and coaching changes, but expecting this after 3 games is so Magic.

[Audi]

They aren’t trading Paolo or Franz.

Stop.

They’d sooner fire Mosely.

Correct. And again - Mosley is closer to COTY a than he is being fired. None of these guys are going anywhere anytime soon.

[VFX]

I know we all wanted to see an obvious offensive system in place that accentuates the player and coaching changes, but expecting this after 3 games is so Magic.

I know the obvious based take here is “it’s early you’re being dramatic”.

Unfortunately, the stakes are way higher now when the FO hands Franz and Paolo max contracts and trades 4 firsts for Desmond Bane.

It shouldn’t be unimaginable that people are concerned when the offense looks significantly worse with those three guys now than it did last year without either of those guys suiting up. It’s an issue.

It’s not like we are watching an entirely different system here. Paolo, Franz, and Wendell are doing exactly what they’ve been doing for years now. Adding Bane doesn’t mean they are reinventing the wheel here. It means Mosely couldn’t figure out how to get it to work in a training camp despite having 75% of the equation already figured out.

[VFX]

They aren’t trading Paolo or Franz.

Stop.

They’d sooner fire Mosely.

Mosley is closer to COTY a than he is being fired.

Is he?

Did Orlando Magic Twitter tell you that?

[zaymon]

They aren’t trading Paolo or Franz.

Stop.

They’d sooner fire Mosely.

Propably not until we restock on picks. We will try this for 2-3 years. Coaching change in 1-2 years.
Mosley should force Paolo to watch his highlights until his eyes bleed.

[three3d]

I know we all wanted to see an obvious offensive system in place that accentuates the player and coaching changes, but expecting this after 3 games is so Magic.

Just tell me what Paolo is really good at doing. We can’t pretend like we didn’t see Franz elevate his game and impact in the absence of Paolo last season in a horrible offensive system.

[basketballRob]

I know we all wanted to see an obvious offensive system in place that accentuates the player and coaching changes, but expecting this after 3 games is so Magic.

This is year 5, and we've had the same problems every season. Shooters come here and forget to shoot. If we are 5-10 games below 500 at the all-star break and still ranked 29th in offense, Mosely may get fired.

We're 29th in offense and 6th in defense currently.

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[Skybox]

Thibs sitting home making angry defense videos

give it a week more everybody...wholesale personnel and (I hope) offensive scheme changes point to a slow and ugly start. We weren't going anywhere continuing to play like last year, despite the degree of success. Shame that this very favorable lineup of winnable games to start the schedule might be wasted on a potentially ugly learning period for this team. Benching new guys to bring in known, very offensively limited, guys is just a leap back into the mud.

Mose may not make it out of the season, but there is a grace period for instituting so much change. IF they revert back to where they're comfortable, they'll win more games now but put a hard ceiling on how far they can ultimately go.

[Skybox]

I know we all wanted to see an obvious offensive system in place that accentuates the player and coaching changes, but expecting this after 3 games is so Magic.

This is year 5, and we've had the same problems every season. Shooters come here and forget to shoot. If we are 5-10 games below 500 at the all-star break and still ranked 29th in offense, Mosely may get fired.

We're 29th in offense and 6th in defense currently.

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and WHY do they "forget how to shoot" ? The importance of coaching, particularly for a young team, even on the NBA level, is underappreciated. It's compounded when a young team inserts vets at the same time....lot of moving parts here. I'm not saying it's not hideous or disappointing, but perhaps some growing pains.

[bigdogdylan5]

All I can do is plead with you guys not to lose your damn minds. Of course our offense is struggling it’s a new system with a whole new backcourt and our starting point guard is only playing 20 mins when he does play. Yes Mosley has a lot of pressure on him but he should get time to try and get these guys to gel and figure it out.

[basketballRob]

I know we all wanted to see an obvious offensive system in place that accentuates the player and coaching changes, but expecting this after 3 games is so Magic.

This is year 5, and we've had the same problems every season. Shooters come here and forget to shoot. If we are 5-10 games below 500 at the all-star break and still ranked 29th in offense, Mosely may get fired.

We're 29th in offense and 6th in defense currently.

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and WHY do they "forget how to shoot" ? The importance of coaching, particularly for a young team, even on the NBA level, is underappreciated. It's compounded when a young team inserts vets at the same time....lot of moving parts here. I'm not saying it's not hideous or disappointing, but perhaps some growing pains.

If the team doesn't shoot better, Mosely will get fired, and they'll bring in someone with a new system. I personally have always hated when Mosely practices the team the day before a b2b or the day before 3 games in 4 nights.

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[basketballRob]

All I can do is plead with you guys not to lose your damn minds. Of course our offense is struggling it’s a new system with a whole new backcourt and our starting point guard is only playing 20 mins when he does play. Yes Mosley has a lot of pressure on him but he should get time to try and get these guys to gel and figure it out.

No one's losing their minds, but after 3 games, it's the same as it's been for the last 4 years, 29th in offense, and 6th in defense. Players come here, and they suddenly can't hit open shots. Franz' shooting keeps getting worse each year.

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[eyriq]

Paolo's playmaking is non-existent and Franz's playmaking load is reduced.

Are we transitioning away from a winghub offense?

Paolo has 2 assists in 3 games.

I’m not saying that’s the reason we are losing. It’s more an indictment of the offense being non existent because Paolo is a black hole in “winghub” bull ****. Everyone stands around and watches him hoist up horrifically difficult stupid shots.

At least with Franz he can finish at the rim most times in isolation. Paolo just hunts free throws if he isn’t taking fadeaway jumpers over 6 foot point guards.

I don’t take that as “Paolo just needs to hit shots”. Because if he has an off night the production goes nowhere due to him contributing nothing if he doesn’t have the ball in his hands.

It’s a coaching issue. Paolo needs to catch the ball off a play that creates room. He has to learn to be effective off ball. The offense has to be more complex than one dimension. They went out and got Desmond Bane for a million picks and I’m watching an iso show still that cant collapse defenses.

The numbers show a significant departure from his role last season (46 games). Last season he was a true point-forward who was the engine of the offense. This season, even with similar minutes, he's making/receiving fewer passes, and those passes are far less likely to create a shot for a teammate.

His role as a primary distributor has been drastically reduced. Coaching is trying to depart from a wing-hub offense and it is failing spectacularly.

Key Stat Comparison (2024-25 -> 2025-26):

Assists (AST): 4.8 -> 1.0
Potential Assists: 9.4 -> 6.7
Assist Pts Created: 12.4 -> 3.0
Assist to Pass %: 10.0% -> 2.2%

[Rainwater]

All I can do is plead with you guys not to lose your damn minds. Of course our offense is struggling it’s a new system with a whole new backcourt and our starting point guard is only playing 20 mins when he does play. Yes Mosley has a lot of pressure on him but he should get time to try and get these guys to gel and figure it out.

People love misery man. Only 3 games in and people are already losing their mind, lol.

[RichCollab]

Mosley’s job will soon be on the line.

7 games to show something. Needs Paolo to lock in.

[eyriq]

All I can do is plead with you guys not to lose your damn minds. Of course our offense is struggling it’s a new system with a whole new backcourt and our starting point guard is only playing 20 mins when he does play. Yes Mosley has a lot of pressure on him but he should get time to try and get these guys to gel and figure it out.

The vast majority of rebuild coaches are bridge coaches with a new coach taking over during the transition to contention. Our expectation should be that Mosley flames out and is replaced. Mosley lasting through the entire rebuild would place him in elite coaching company and make him one of the Magic greats.