Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[Skybox]

God no. Highly doubt this page knows anything about what our front office is thinking. Washed up CJ McCollum is not the answer.

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

If we can package KCP, Cole and 2 SRPs for CJ, I will pull the trigger

I think that's a great trade for both. Cole runs point while DJM heals up, then expires while KCP/DJM form a lethal defensive backcourt along with Zion, this year's lotto pick and next season's lotto pick.

[RichCollab]

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

If we can package KCP, Cole and 2 SRPs for CJ, I will pull the trigger

I think that's a great trade for both. Cole runs point while DJM heals up, then expires while KCP/DJM form a lethal defensive backcourt along with Zion, this year's lotto pick and next season's lotto pick.

I’m in on CJ. Not sure 2 SRPs get it done. I’m ok including Denver’s pick.

Money will be tough but CJ is great for 2 - 3 years for what this team needs.

Hopefully we can structure a deal to keep Moe.

CJ / AB / vet min
Suggs / draft pick / TQ
Franz / TDS / Caleb
Paolo / JI / vet min
WCJ / Moe / Goga

I’m ok shipping Goga out if we resign Moe.

[89Magicfan]

Such a Weltman move. All this talk and he trades for a 34 year old.

[cedric76]

If we can package KCP, Cole and 2 SRPs for CJ, I will pull the trigger

I think that's a great trade for both. Cole runs point while DJM heals up, then expires while KCP/DJM form a lethal defensive backcourt along with Zion, this year's lotto pick and next season's lotto pick.

I’m in on CJ. Not sure 2 SRPs get it done. I’m ok including Denver’s pick.

Money will be tough but CJ is great for 2 - 3 years for what this team needs.

Hopefully we can structure a deal to keep Moe.

CJ / AB / vet min
Suggs / draft pick / TQ
Franz / TDS / Caleb
Paolo / JI / vet min
WCJ / Moe / Goga

I’m ok shipping Goga out if we resign Moe.

A trade for the sake of trading??

Can't see any improvement, I m sure mose would miss KCP each time CJ get killed on D

[basketballRob]

God no. Highly doubt this page knows anything about what our front office is thinking. Washed up CJ McCollum is not the answer.

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

If we can package KCP, Cole and 2 SRPs for CJ, I will pull the trigger

If Mccollum would accept around $20-23m on a 2-year extension, I'd be interested.

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[basketballRob]

God no. Highly doubt this page knows anything about what our front office is thinking. Washed up CJ McCollum is not the answer.

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

If we can package KCP, Cole and 2 SRPs for CJ, I will pull the trigger

I think they need a pg and center more. Goga, Cole, and fillers. They don't need KCP. The Pelicans are one of the few teams who could absorb like 4 players.

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[Magic_Johnny12]

I don't hate the CJ idea at all. I thought he was a year or 2 younger but even so he'd be a decent stopgap guy for a couple of years.

Unless we trade away one of the Big 3, it's about what we could expect in return. I'm not against a trade like that per se, but if you want to keep the core three and you're not taking a flyer on a guard that hasn't yet shown his full potential, CJ is a solid get. Can play both on and off the ball, isn't a horrible defender, has field vision, solid production as pnr initiator on decent volume...

He's an expiring, so you can get him cheap enough and rework his deal.

I don't hate it. I would hate if it was the only move tho.

This is where I’m at.

CJM is a true vet and will fit seamlessly.

Also becomes a huge expiring next season and maintains flexibility.

I think they would want Goga, but they might prefer Isaac with all things considered.

This works:

Jonathan Isaac
Cole Anthony
Jett Howard
#25 (might get away with a few SRP’, but tomatoe tomato in my eyes)

Prioritize getting NAW in the door and you might have something here.

Very uneventful tbh, but who are we kidding thinking Weltman was going to do anything significant .

[basketballRob]

I don't hate the CJ idea at all. I thought he was a year or 2 younger but even so he'd be a decent stopgap guy for a couple of years.

Unless we trade away one of the Big 3, it's about what we could expect in return. I'm not against a trade like that per se, but if you want to keep the core three and you're not taking a flyer on a guard that hasn't yet shown his full potential, CJ is a solid get. Can play both on and off the ball, isn't a horrible defender, has field vision, solid production as pnr initiator on decent volume...

He's an expiring, so you can get him cheap enough and rework his deal.

I don't hate it. I would hate if it was the only move tho.

This is where I’m at.

CJM is a true vet and will fit seamlessly.

Also becomes a huge expiring next season and maintains flexibility.

I think they would want Goga, but they might prefer Isaac with all things considered.

This works:

Jonathan Isaac
Cole Anthony
Jett Howard
#25 (might get away with a few SRP’, but tomatoe tomato in my eyes)

Prioritize getting NAW in the door and you might have something here.

Very uneventful tbh, but who are we kidding thinking Weltman was going to do anything significant .

If we do get NAW, that would make KCP expendable. NAW would also be more accepting of a bench role. Having both KCP and CJ would make it a little bit awkward.

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[Skybox]

I think that's a great trade for both. Cole runs point while DJM heals up, then expires while KCP/DJM form a lethal defensive backcourt along with Zion, this year's lotto pick and next season's lotto pick.

I’m in on CJ. Not sure 2 SRPs get it done. I’m ok including Denver’s pick.

Money will be tough but CJ is great for 2 - 3 years for what this team needs.

Hopefully we can structure a deal to keep Moe.

CJ / AB / vet min
Suggs / draft pick / TQ
Franz / TDS / Caleb
Paolo / JI / vet min
WCJ / Moe / Goga

I’m ok shipping Goga out if we resign Moe.

A trade for the sake of trading??

Can't see any improvement, I m sure mose would miss KCP each time CJ get killed on D

"Defense for offense" ...didn't those words come right out of your hero's mouth?

how is adding a guy who has been one of the league's elite shooters for a decade and scored over 20ppg for over a decade just dismissed as a "trade for the sake of trading" Can't see any improvement in adding that kind of offensive talent - clean your glasses

[Skybox]

I don't hate the CJ idea at all. I thought he was a year or 2 younger but even so he'd be a decent stopgap guy for a couple of years.

Unless we trade away one of the Big 3, it's about what we could expect in return. I'm not against a trade like that per se, but if you want to keep the core three and you're not taking a flyer on a guard that hasn't yet shown his full potential, CJ is a solid get. Can play both on and off the ball, isn't a horrible defender, has field vision, solid production as pnr initiator on decent volume...

He's an expiring, so you can get him cheap enough and rework his deal.

I don't hate it. I would hate if it was the only move tho.

This is where I’m at.

CJM is a true vet and will fit seamlessly.

Also becomes a huge expiring next season and maintains flexibility.

I think they would want Goga, but they might prefer Isaac with all things considered.

This works:

Jonathan Isaac
Cole Anthony
Jett Howard
#25 (might get away with a few SRP’, but tomatoe tomato in my eyes)

Prioritize getting NAW in the door and you might have something here.

Very uneventful tbh, but who are we kidding thinking Weltman was going to do anything significant .

If we do get NAW, that would make KCP expendable. NAW would also be more accepting of a bench role. Having both KCP and CJ would make it a little bit awkward.

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Suggs returning makes KCP expendable. AB showing any willingness to shoot makes KCP expendable. NAW would too...but would only make sense if we add that offensive starter. A CJ/NAW summer would be great - if we kept all of our frps too - it would be amazing. Give me Raynaud at #16 and Clifford, Coward, Bryant, Clayton, Richardson at #25 and we're good. I'd still really like an upgrade at starting C and I bet Ainge would listen to discussion about the PHX swap for Kessler...maybe even send some unneeded salary with it.

[basketballRob]

McCollum is Corey Joseph level on defense.

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[89Magicfan]

I’m in on CJ. Not sure 2 SRPs get it done. I’m ok including Denver’s pick.

Money will be tough but CJ is great for 2 - 3 years for what this team needs.

Hopefully we can structure a deal to keep Moe.

CJ / AB / vet min
Suggs / draft pick / TQ
Franz / TDS / Caleb
Paolo / JI / vet min
WCJ / Moe / Goga

I’m ok shipping Goga out if we resign Moe.

A trade for the sake of trading??

Can't see any improvement, I m sure mose would miss KCP each time CJ get killed on D

"Defense for offense" ...didn't those words come right out of your hero's mouth?

how is adding a guy who has been one of the league's elite shooters for a decade and scored over 20ppg for over a decade just dismissed as a "trade for the sake of trading" Can't see any improvement in adding that kind of offensive talent - clean your glasses

Dude is 34. He’s literally at any given moment calling it a career.

I don’t mind it if we got other stuff in the works. If this is Weltman’s biggest move of the off season it just further shows his inabilities.

[OrlandoDream]

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God no. Highly doubt this page knows anything about what our front office is thinking. Washed up CJ McCollum is not the answer.

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

Actually watch a game of him this year vs just looking at the stats. He is a defensive cone like Trae. Gives poor effort on that end and gets beat by faster guards all the time. Most likely bc his injuries have caught up to him at this age. This isn't POR CJ Mccollum. At 30mil per, we can do better. Rather take a shot at Poole then pay 30mil for washed-up mccollum for that "veteran presence" b*****.

Go look at the comments on his trade deadline post. He said "noboby is safe" after Luka trade and all the nola fans burning him how he's safe bc nobody is gonna trade for him since he is bad.

[OrlandoDream]

God no. Highly doubt this page knows anything about what our front office is thinking. Washed up CJ McCollum is not the answer.

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

Actually watch a game of him this year vs just looking at the stats. He is a defensive cone like Trae. Gives poor effort on that end and gets beat by faster guards all the time. Most likely bc his injuries have caught up to him at this age. This isn't POR CJ Mccollum. At 30mil per, we can do better. Rather take a shot at Poole then pay 30mil for washed-up mccollum for that "veteran presence" b*****.

Go look at the comments on his trade deadline post. He said "noboby is safe" after Luka trade and all the nola fans burning him how he's safe bc nobody is gonna trade for him since he is bad.

McCollum is Corey Joseph level on defense.

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Exactly. Imagine Paolo and Franz asking for help last two years and our answer is nursing home CJ. Id request a trade this summer to gtfo here.

[89Magicfan]

God no. Highly doubt this page knows anything about what our front office is thinking. Washed up CJ McCollum is not the answer.

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

Actually watch a game of him this year vs just looking at the stats. He is a defensive cone like Trae. Gives poor effort on that end and gets beat by faster guards all the time. Most likely bc his injuries have caught up to him at this age. This isn't POR CJ Mccollum. At 30mil per, we can do better. Rather take a shot at Poole then pay 30mil for washed-up mccollum for that "veteran presence" b*****.

Go look at the comments on his trade deadline post. He said "noboby is safe" after Luka trade and all the nola fans burning him how he's safe bc nobody is gonna trade for him since he is bad.

Wait 30 million a year?! Oh God no. Weltman better not.

[basketballRob]

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

Actually watch a game of him this year vs just looking at the stats. He is a defensive cone like Trae. Gives poor effort on that end and gets beat by faster guards all the time. Most likely bc his injuries have caught up to him at this age. This isn't POR CJ Mccollum. At 30mil per, we can do better. Rather take a shot at Poole then pay 30mil for washed-up mccollum for that "veteran presence" b*****.

Go look at the comments on his trade deadline post. He said "noboby is safe" after Luka trade and all the nola fans burning him how he's safe bc nobody is gonna trade for him since he is bad.

McCollum is Corey Joseph level on defense.

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Exactly. Imagine Paolo and Franz asking for help last two years and our answer is nursing home CJ. Id request a trade this summer to gtfo here.

Cojo was pretty good defensively for us.

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[MartinsIzAfraud]

McCollum is like fart that you trust but end up **** your pants.... basically a bare minimum move that gets done due to the pressure. They probably could've acquired a CJ McCollum the last 3 years but nah

[OrlandoDream]

what tells you he is "washed up"?

Is it the 21.2ppg, the 4.1 apg (that is his lowest in 8 seasons), the 32.7mpg? The career low 37.3% from 3 on 8.2 apg?

Last time he scored less than 20ppg was 14-15 season.

He'd be the best guy on the team on many nights...but knows enough to not try to be that...Virtually none of the bonehead concerns of Poole, more of a PG than Simons, Sexton, Coby...age is the ONLY thing and, perhaps, the only thing that affects is his next contract terms -if he's happy in ORL. There are questions, but no more than any of the candidates...like Poole, CJ might not require much, if any, draft equity - KCP, imo, is actually a pretty good fit next to Dejounte and he's almost as old as CJ (nobody got upset about KCP's age - until you offer him on the general trade boards - then his age and "declining" shooting come up).

Actually watch a game of him this year vs just looking at the stats. He is a defensive cone like Trae. Gives poor effort on that end and gets beat by faster guards all the time. Most likely bc his injuries have caught up to him at this age. This isn't POR CJ Mccollum. At 30mil per, we can do better. Rather take a shot at Poole then pay 30mil for washed-up mccollum for that "veteran presence" b*****.

Go look at the comments on his trade deadline post. He said "noboby is safe" after Luka trade and all the nola fans burning him how he's safe bc nobody is gonna trade for him since he is bad.

Wait 30 million a year?! Oh God no. Weltman better not.

He is an expiring after next season. Thats the only positive.

[OrlandoDream]

Actually watch a game of him this year vs just looking at the stats. He is a defensive cone like Trae. Gives poor effort on that end and gets beat by faster guards all the time. Most likely bc his injuries have caught up to him at this age. This isn't POR CJ Mccollum. At 30mil per, we can do better. Rather take a shot at Poole then pay 30mil for washed-up mccollum for that "veteran presence" b*****.

Go look at the comments on his trade deadline post. He said "noboby is safe" after Luka trade and all the nola fans burning him how he's safe bc nobody is gonna trade for him since he is bad.

McCollum is Corey Joseph level on defense.

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Exactly. Imagine Paolo and Franz asking for help last two years and our answer is nursing home CJ. Id request a trade this summer to gtfo here.

Cojo was pretty good defensively for us.

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Hope your being sarcastic

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Actually watch a game of him this year vs just looking at the stats. He is a defensive cone like Trae. Gives poor effort on that end and gets beat by faster guards all the time. Most likely bc his injuries have caught up to him at this age. This isn't POR CJ Mccollum. At 30mil per, we can do better. Rather take a shot at Poole then pay 30mil for washed-up mccollum for that "veteran presence" b*****.

Go look at the comments on his trade deadline post. He said "noboby is safe" after Luka trade and all the nola fans burning him how he's safe bc nobody is gonna trade for him since he is bad.

Wait 30 million a year?! Oh God no. Weltman better not.

He is an expiring after next season. Thats the only positive.

just 25-26 season but yeah 30M for him vs a Simons/Sexton would be brutal