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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#641 » by Def Swami » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:41 am

Skin wrote:Why do we need Bledsoe now? Why can't we wait till next summer and keep all of our assets?

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#642 » by magic111 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:48 am

Look I think Bledsoe will be an all star pg when he gets 30 min a night. Hea too athletic and all he needs is min...and I'm sure he has learned a lot from paul
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#643 » by TDJacksonville » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:51 am

rcklsscognition wrote:People inside the league have expressed concern over Andrew's gait and age and how it could hamper his development.

since when is 23 old and sure he has some slower feet but that doesnt stop him from being a good scorer. it might stop him from being a good Defender but theres no reason to think he cant be atleast Matt Bonner good.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#644 » by G-Heel » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:55 am

Do you guys know what's a Restricted FA is? If Magic wants Bledsoe, why not wait until next season, you asked? Because whichever team has him will match any reasonable contract for him. That's why.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#645 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:56 am

magic111 wrote:Look I think Bledsoe will be an all star pg when he gets 30 min a night. Hea too athletic and all he needs is min...and I'm sure he has learned a lot from paul


when CP3 was hurt and he was getting 30 mins a night, he was not putting up all-star numbers. In fact, he was putting up about 5 apg. That isnt good for your starting PG. He just does not have good PG skills. bad shooting, not great passing
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#646 » by Def Swami » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:57 am

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Two @NBA sources tell the @OrlandoSentinel that a Afflalo-Bledsoe trade is NOT close: http://ht.ly/moa4j

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#647 » by G-Heel » Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:58 am

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rcklsscognition wrote:People inside the league have expressed concern over Andrew's gait and age and how it could hamper his development.

since when is 23 old and sure he has some slower feet but that doesnt stop him from being a good scorer. it might stop him from being a good Defender but theres no reason to think he cant be atleast Matt Bonner good.


If he's only going to be as good as Matt Bonner then we might as well trade him now and get something of values back.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

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Two @NBA sources tell the @OrlandoSentinel that a Afflalo-Bledsoe trade is NOT close: http://ht.ly/moa4j


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#649 » by NEM » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:00 am

If Cleveland wants out of that pick so bad why don't we get them on the line and offer moe, afflalo, baby, and a future first for the first pick.

Irving
Afflalo
Harkless
Davis
Thompson

Waiters, zeller, varejao off the bench

Nelson
Mclemore
Harris
Noel
Vuc

Not saying they'd do it, but they're getting turned down on all these other offers... Might be worth a call on our end
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#650 » by TDJacksonville » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:01 am

G-Heel wrote:Do you guys know what's a Restricted FA is? If Magic wants Bledsoe, why not wait until next season, you asked? Because whichever team has him will match any reasonable contract for him. That's why.

and guess wat guys if u offer more money on the player than wat they think hes worth they will decline :roll:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#651 » by Mannchild » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:01 am

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Two @NBA sources tell the @OrlandoSentinel that a Afflalo-Bledsoe trade is NOT close: http://ht.ly/moa4j


Thank god. I wouldnt mind Bledsoe so much but i am really getting use to the idea of going into next off season with:

New PG
AA/Hark
Harris/Hark
Noel/Harris/Nicholson
Vuc/Oquinn

Bledsoe isnt an all star and i doubt he ever will be, i see him as a 15/7 player and thats not the type of player we need to pounce on. I would be very worried about over paying too. We can go after a PG in next years draft or free agency.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#652 » by TDJacksonville » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:03 am

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rcklsscognition wrote:People inside the league have expressed concern over Andrew's gait and age and how it could hamper his development.

since when is 23 old and sure he has some slower feet but that doesnt stop him from being a good scorer. it might stop him from being a good Defender but theres no reason to think he cant be atleast Matt Bonner good.


If he's only going to be as good as Matt Bonner then we might as well trade him now and get something of values back.

that is his floor brah. his ceiling is probably Ryan Anderson with better Rebounding
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#653 » by Def Swami » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:03 am

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#654 » by pogiro » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:05 am

G-Heel wrote:Do you guys know what's a Restricted FA is? If Magic wants Bledsoe, why not wait until next season, you asked? Because whichever team has him will match any reasonable contract for him. That's why.


You think they'll be able to match? Especially if they plan to field a contending team, and not some pretender with garbage surrounding CP3, Griffin and DeAndre. The Clippers want to trade him before it gets to that point, and they especially want to trade him for reasonably priced Afflalo.

Plus, I might be wrong on this, but isn't it that you can't trade a RFA for some period of time when you match an offer of theirs?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#655 » by NEM » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:07 am

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TDJacksonville wrote:since when is 23 old and sure he has some slower feet but that doesnt stop him from being a good scorer. it might stop him from being a good Defender but theres no reason to think he cant be atleast Matt Bonner good.


If he's only going to be as good as Matt Bonner then we might as well trade him now and get something of values back.

that is his floor brah. his ceiling is probably Ryan Anderson with better Rebounding


Ryan Anderson is a better rebounder than Nicholson. Also, Ryan Anderson has more range than Nicholson and is actually more agile than Nicholson.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#656 » by pogiro » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:11 am

NEM wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
G-Heel wrote:
If he's only going to be as good as Matt Bonner then we might as well trade him now and get something of values back.

that is his floor brah. his ceiling is probably Ryan Anderson with better Rebounding


Ryan Anderson is a better rebounder than Nicholson. Also, Ryan Anderson has more range than Nicholson and is actually more agile than Nicholson.


I wouldn't compare him to Ryan Anderson, but since you guys are, Nicholson has a more versatile offensive repertoire.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#657 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:13 am

For real? An Andrew Nicholson and Ryan Anderson debate? Season needs to start already
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#658 » by rcklsscognition » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:22 am

My take on Clippers/Magic. A few weeks ago Henny offer Afflalo for Bledsoe and Butler straight up. Clippers were in the Docalypse. Henny said, you've got until draft night to get back to me, or July 1st, or whatever. So Clippers leak they've got this great deal with Orlando to see if some other team would step in and try to get Bledsoe with a better offer. If not, we'll have our original deal either draft night or July 1.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#659 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:28 am

NEM wrote:If Cleveland wants out of that pick so bad why don't we get them on the line and offer moe, afflalo, baby, and a future first for the first pick.

Irving
Afflalo
Harkless
Davis
Thompson

Waiters, zeller, varejao off the bench

Nelson
Mclemore
Harris
Noel
Vuc

Not saying they'd do it, but they're getting turned down on all these other offers... Might be worth a call on our end


because that is overpay for the #1 in this draft.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#660 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:30 am

NEM wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:that is his floor brah. his ceiling is probably Ryan Anderson with better Rebounding


Ryan Anderson is a better rebounder than Nicholson. Also, Ryan Anderson has more range than Nicholson and is actually more agile than Nicholson.


doesnt have the post game of Nicholson though. Ryan was always getting stuffed near the rim. He was a great rebounder though

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