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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseas 

Post#641 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:37 pm

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He's got a 3.4 million dollar offer from Fenerbahce Ulker in Turkey. Their manager says they've been talking to Turk.


Was this before or after his Euro performance?


Not 100% sure on the dates, but I know that the last day of the tourney for Turkey an updated story with the 3.4 (not 3.5 as initially reported) was posted with the quote from Fenerbahce's manager.


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Post#642 » by Neon1 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:10 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:He doesn't even have to play or be a part of the team. Just pay him to stay at home until he accepts a buyout for a lesser amount! You can't have your pizza and eat it too!


Do that and you have to pay Turkoglu all 12 million. Do you not know his contract situation? He would LOVE to get 12 million dollars to do absolutely nothing. DeVos is not having this.

Turk can wait as long as it takes, The MAGIC are the one's with the deadline. There is no incentive for Turkoglu to settle for less then he is owed, the longer this takes the better it is for him.
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Post#643 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:44 am

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Well you could special order one. That would be funny to wear this year. Just to remind people why we "suck". :P


What would be epic is that you order a Wiggins Magic jersey and the Lakers thru some slight of hand trade gets the #1 overall pick and he ends up a Laker wearing #22.



Yeah, that would NOT be epic at all lol
i would actually consider believing the conspiracy theorists because there is almost no way they get the number one pick next year.


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Post#644 » by Driguez » Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:40 am

Here's some quotes from a nice little Magic article that swish14 aka Alex Kennedy wrote.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/magics-young- ... g-together


“I think he’s going to be really good,” Harkless said. “He works really hard. That’s what I love about him. Off the court, he’s a great guy to hang around. Me and him, we have a lot in common. I think he’s going to be really good. He’s a gym rat and I think he fits in. He’s an up-tempo guard, who likes to run and push the pace. With our young team, I think that’s what we’re going to do a lot this year.”
“Victor, I like him a lot,” O’Quinn said. “He’s just totally on board. The first day in the locker room, he asked, ‘What do you guys need me to do?’ Out there during Summer League, it wasn’t about him. He had a great Summer League, but it was all about the team. That’s why I think everybody progressed and we had such a great Summer League showing.”
Mo_Harkless_Inside_USAT_1Harkless has made the biggest strides out of everyone, according to O’Quinn. It’s easy to forget that Harkless just turned 20 years old in May. Few players in the league have Harkless’ upside and his teammates are excited to see what he’ll do in his sophomore season.
“I would say Moe [has improved the most],” O’Quinn said. “Moe was thrown into the fire last year and he was just on the court at one point. Now, he feels himself, he knows what he can do, he knows what he wants to do, he goes up with confidence when he goes through the lane and he’s shooting the three at a high clip right now. It’s impressive because it’s like, man, this kid played the five in college? Now, he’s going to be a great perimeter player in the NBA.”
One of the most frequently asked questions from Magic fans is if Harkless will play some shooting guard this season, so that he can play alongside Harris on the perimeter. Harkless said that the coaching staff has told him that he will spend some time at two-guard this year, which is one reason why he has worked hard to expand his game.
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Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseason) 

Post#645 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:37 am

Driguez wrote:Here's some quotes from a nice little Magic article that swish14 aka Alex Kennedy wrote.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/magics-young- ... g-together


“I think he’s going to be really good,” Harkless said. “He works really hard. That’s what I love about him. Off the court, he’s a great guy to hang around. Me and him, we have a lot in common. I think he’s going to be really good. He’s a gym rat and I think he fits in. He’s an up-tempo guard, who likes to run and push the pace. With our young team, I think that’s what we’re going to do a lot this year.”
“Victor, I like him a lot,” O’Quinn said. “He’s just totally on board. The first day in the locker room, he asked, ‘What do you guys need me to do?’ Out there during Summer League, it wasn’t about him. He had a great Summer League, but it was all about the team. That’s why I think everybody progressed and we had such a great Summer League showing.”
Mo_Harkless_Inside_USAT_1Harkless has made the biggest strides out of everyone, according to O’Quinn. It’s easy to forget that Harkless just turned 20 years old in May. Few players in the league have Harkless’ upside and his teammates are excited to see what he’ll do in his sophomore season.
“I would say Moe [has improved the most],” O’Quinn said. “Moe was thrown into the fire last year and he was just on the court at one point. Now, he feels himself, he knows what he can do, he knows what he wants to do, he goes up with confidence when he goes through the lane and he’s shooting the three at a high clip right now. It’s impressive because it’s like, man, this kid played the five in college? Now, he’s going to be a great perimeter player in the NBA.”
One of the most frequently asked questions from Magic fans is if Harkless will play some shooting guard this season, so that he can play alongside Harris on the perimeter. Harkless said that the coaching staff has told him that he will spend some time at two-guard this year, which is one reason why he has worked hard to expand his game.
thanks but i already knew that O'Quinn....


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt.LXI Countdown To Preseas 

Post#646 » by OrlandO » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:59 am

training camp is so close, yet feels so far....
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Post#647 » by Smooth_E » Sat Sep 21, 2013 4:35 am

OrlandO wrote:training camp is so close, yet feels so far....



Man, do I hear ya. I wish there was some way we could watch them in training camp.
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Post#648 » by rcklsscognition » Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:06 am

OrlandO wrote:training camp is so close, yet feels so far....


Preseason is less than 3 weeks away, you don't have to wait that long. 17 days left.
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Post#649 » by Reverse_Angle » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:43 am

rcklsscognition wrote:He had a horrible stint in the Euro tourney, he's not going to play anywhere in the NBA. We had to pay Harrington his money, we'll have to pay Turk. Do we really want the guy using PEDs on the team with our rookie core?


I agree with you, but thinking PED starts and ends with Hedo is just naive. I would bet at least half of the players use them during the off-season and perhaps during the season especially considering the embarrassingly lax attitude of the league.

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Post#650 » by Reverse_Angle » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:54 am

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Neato wrote:So where does Hedo want to play if outside of NBA? Is there any kind of timeline for when he can sign there?


He's got a 3.4 million dollar offer from Fenerbahce Ulker in Turkey. Their manager says they've been talking to Turk.


Same team that was convicted by UEFA for match fixing, which will likely cause changing of its president and board soon? I am not holding my breath.

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Post#651 » by Reverse_Angle » Sat Sep 21, 2013 10:57 am

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BadMofoPimp wrote:He doesn't even have to play or be a part of the team. Just pay him to stay at home until he accepts a buyout for a lesser amount! You can't have your pizza and eat it too!


Do that and you have to pay Turkoglu all 12 million. Do you not know his contract situation? He would LOVE to get 12 million dollars to do absolutely nothing. DeVos is not having this.

Turk can wait as long as it takes, The MAGIC are the one's with the deadline. There is no incentive for Turkoglu to settle for less then he is owed, the longer this takes the better it is for him.


I don't think that is true. His contract would be fully guaranteed way into the season, I guess it was January. I am not saying that we keep him and raise his trade value; both of these things are out. of question

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Post#652 » by Def Swami » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:33 pm

Any of our pre-season opponents televising their games?
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Post#653 » by Neon1 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 2:56 pm

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BadMofoPimp wrote:He doesn't even have to play or be a part of the team. Just pay him to stay at home until he accepts a buyout for a lesser amount! You can't have your pizza and eat it too!


Do that and you have to pay Turkoglu all 12 million. Do you not know his contract situation? He would LOVE to get 12 million dollars to do absolutely nothing. DeVos is not having this.

Turk can wait as long as it takes, The MAGIC are the one's with the deadline. There is no incentive for Turkoglu to settle for less then he is owed, the longer this takes the better it is for him.


I don't think that is true. His contract would be fully guaranteed way into the season, I guess it was January. I am not saying that we keep him and raise his trade value; both of these things are out. of question

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How is it not true? BMP is talking like we can hurt him by making him sit at home at not waive him, doing that guarantees 12mill instead of 6mill. Turk has no deadline, WE DO.
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Post#654 » by Reverse_Angle » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:35 pm

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Do that and you have to pay Turkoglu all 12 million. Do you not know his contract situation? He would LOVE to get 12 million dollars to do absolutely nothing. DeVos is not having this.

Turk can wait as long as it takes, The MAGIC are the one's with the deadline. There is no incentive for Turkoglu to settle for less then he is owed, the longer this takes the better it is for him.


I don't think that is true. His contract would be fully guaranteed way into the season, I guess it was January. I am not saying that we keep him and raise his trade value; both of these things are out. of question

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How is it not true? BMP is talking like we can hurt him by making him sit at home at not waive him, doing that guarantees 12mill instead of 6mill. Turk has no deadline, WE DO.


But we can hurt him. As long as we are paying him 6 mil, we can just hold off until the deadline, which would make it harder for him to sign with a team whether overseas or here. That is the leverage Henny has. Of course this move may also cost us a roster spot, but that is not an issue until after all the moves has been made.

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Post#655 » by Neon1 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:04 pm

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But we can hurt him. As long as we are paying him 6 mil, we can just hold off until the deadline, which would make it harder for him to sign with a team whether overseas or here. That is the leverage Henny has. Of course this move may also cost us a roster spot, but that is not an issue until after all the moves has been made.

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Even IF he was to get offered by another team, he isn't getting more then a vet minimum deal. It makes no sense for him to cut his own throat on salary for no reason at all. He and his agent are perfectly fine sitting out half the year and collect 6 million plus a minimum salary from whatever team picks him up after the deadline (someone WILL).

Cut his check and keep it moving. What are they trying to deprive the guy of a couple dollars for?
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Post#656 » by Reverse_Angle » Sat Sep 21, 2013 7:49 pm

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But we can hurt him. As long as we are paying him 6 mil, we can just hold off until the deadline, which would make it harder for him to sign with a team whether overseas or here. That is the leverage Henny has. Of course this move may also cost us a roster spot, but that is not an issue until after all the moves has been made.

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Even IF he was to get offered by another team, he isn't getting more then a vet minimum deal. It makes no sense for him to cut his own throat on salary for no reason at all. He and his agent are perfectly fine sitting out half the year and collect 6 million plus a minimum salary from whatever team picks him up after the deadline (someone WILL).

Cut his check and keep it moving. What are they trying to deprive the guy of a couple dollars for?


I agree with you as I think there is no point in lingering this any longer. But evidently Henny does, so I am inclined to think he has his reasons. Perhaps Hero wants to join 1000 club, which he said he wanted. Henny will use everything at his disposal to lessen the blow.

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Post#657 » by Smooth_E » Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:01 am

Here's a random thought, Magic related..

In the history of Orlando Magic basketball players, who would you take (one person in their physical prime) with you in a street brawl/bar-fight and who could take the rest of the guys on this list?:

1. Shaquille O'neal
2. Ben Wallace
3. Corey Maggette
4. Shawn Kemp
5. Horace Grant
6. Matt Barnes
7. Marcin Gortat
8. Dwight Howard

My personal choice is Ben Wallace or Matt Barnes. Barnes honestly reminds me of the type of guys that will do anything when their back is against the wall. Ben Wallace could probably throw some people around.
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Post#658 » by orlando1214 » Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:26 am

Smooth_E wrote:Here's a random thought, Magic related..

In the history of Orlando Magic basketball players, who would you take (one person in their physical prime) with you in a street brawl/bar-fight and who could take the rest of the guys on this list?:

1. Shaquille O'neal
2. Ben Wallace
3. Corey Maggette
4. Shawn Kemp
5. Horace Grant
6. Matt Barnes
7. Marcin Gortat
8. Dwight Howard

My personal choice is Ben Wallace or Matt Barnes. Barnes honestly reminds me of the type of guys that will do anything when their back is against the wall. Ben Wallace could probably throw some people around.


Barnes always seemed like someone who is all talk to me, Ben Wallace is a good pick though in my opinion. Personally I'd probably go with Gortat. His Dad was an olympic medalist in boxing and I know he does box too for training and stuff, so I bet he could land some good hits.
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Post#659 » by TDJacksonville » Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:28 am

id take Shaq. i mean no one starts a fight vs 300+ pounders ;) plus Shaq-fu ;)
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Post#660 » by Neato » Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:22 am

I'll take Stacey Augmon since he's not afraid to use a bottle of lotion as a weapon

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