2023-2024 Regular Season Game 13: Orlando Magic (7-5) at Indiana Pacers (7-4) - 5pm

[RookieStar]

That would be highly unlikely.

But if it did happen, I would think it would be more of a fluke than anything sustainable. I would still stick to the plan and shot for long term success than short term gratification.

Such a situation reminds me of the Jazz performance last year.

Oh im for long term goal as well. That is why if in the dream scenario where we are in the 4th placed Eastern PO spot, i think our FO would not make any changes untile after the season ends. No way they jeapordize what has been clicking so well and especiqlly putting butts in the seat for more $$$

But if the magic are sitting in the 4th seed and the opportunity to trade Fultz for a good return arises when you know there is a chance you might be better in the future, you wouldn't do it for the sake of continuity?

Oh sure. Why not. A lot of good and clear upgrades for Fultz in the PG spot esp since Cole cant cut it to be the starter and Black isnt ready yet for full PG duties.

But in a trade deadline, who is giving away a good PG? Especially for Fultz who is needing a new contract even with a pick attached? Only tanking teams blowing it up right?

[Rainwater]

Gary Harris not getting enough love by Magic fans....hes played great last 2 games. I dont want to trade him lol

I love Harris other than Ingles and maybe Cole he is the only one who can shot the 3, lol.

[Rainwater]

Oh im for long term goal as well. That is why if in the dream scenario where we are in the 4th placed Eastern PO spot, i think our FO would not make any changes untile after the season ends. No way they jeapordize what has been clicking so well and especiqlly putting butts in the seat for more $$$

But if the magic are sitting in the 4th seed and the opportunity to trade Fultz for a good return arises when you know there is a chance you might be better in the future, you wouldn't do it for the sake of continuity?

Oh sure. Why not. A lot of good and clear upgrades for Fultz in the PG spot esp since Cole cant cut it to be the starter and Black isnt ready yet for full PG duties.

But in a trade deadline, who is giving away a good PG? Especially for Fultz who is needing a new contract even with a pick attached? Only tanking teams blowing it up right?

Moving away from the hypothetical, I really don't know who is out there. But if the magic don't plan on resigning Fultz, which I don't think they plan on doing, they need to move him or lose him for nothing. The fact that they are winning without him should give the team reason to look at options that can help improve the team.

[MasterGMer]

But if the magic are sitting in the 4th seed and the opportunity to trade Fultz for a good return arises when you know there is a chance you might be better in the future, you wouldn't do it for the sake of continuity?

Oh sure. Why not. A lot of good and clear upgrades for Fultz in the PG spot esp since Cole cant cut it to be the starter and Black isnt ready yet for full PG duties.

But in a trade deadline, who is giving away a good PG? Especially for Fultz who is needing a new contract even with a pick attached? Only tanking teams blowing it up right?

Moving away from the hypnotically, I really don't know who is out there. But if the magic don't plan on resigning Fultz, which I don't think they plan on doing, they need to move him or lose him for nothing. The fact that they are playing so well without him should give the team reason to look at options that can help improve the team.

What if Markelle is resigned 15M per year? Would you do that? Cole got a great contract extension. Maybe Fultz too...

[basketballRob]

Gary Harris not getting enough love by Magic fans....hes played great last 2 games. I dont want to trade him lol

I love Harris other than Ingles and maybe Cole he is the only one who can shot the 3, lol.

Cole can make a stretch of bad plays. For example, he turned the ball over 4 times and made bad defensiveness plays, leading to a 12-2 run by the Pacers in the 3rd going into the 4th. He can't stay in front of people on defense. He does make some shots sometimes and get rebounds.

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[MasterGMer]

I am still on the bandwagon of Markelle Fultz. When is he going to come back?

Hear me? Redemption time, Markelle!

I still think Markelle has the skills, size and ball handling to be a very good PG in the league. He's shown flashes which proves to me he is in the best shape of his life starting the season. But injury hurts and he's been out. And also he hasn't nailed a 3pt shot yet especially after he has greatly improved his mechanics shooting the ball this offseason.

I am also a Wendell fan. I think with Wendell, because of his defense and rebounding, his game can take us to another level.

But let's pray injury doesn't derail us from our goal.

This upcoming week is probably going to test us to see how good we are. If we come away with Ws, I am very hopeful we are a REAL good team in the Eastern Conference if not there yet

[MaKiaVeLi7]

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Oh sure. Why not. A lot of good and clear upgrades for Fultz in the PG spot esp since Cole cant cut it to be the starter and Black isnt ready yet for full PG duties.

But in a trade deadline, who is giving away a good PG? Especially for Fultz who is needing a new contract even with a pick attached? Only tanking teams blowing it up right?

Moving away from the hypnotically, I really don't know who is out there. But if the magic don't plan on resigning Fultz, which I don't think they plan on doing, they need to move him or lose him for nothing. The fact that they are playing so well without him should give the team reason to look at options that can help improve the team.

What if Markelle is resigned 15M per year? Would you do that? Cole got a great contract extension. Maybe Fultz too...

Maybe that's the best-case scenario for our future. We resign Fultz to a reasonable amount $ and trade him a year later in order not to lose him for nothing.

Converting his contract via trade into valuable assets such as picks/young players/veteran talent of need would be an extremely good opportunity in the next 1.5-2 years when we'll be an even scarier team with a greater appetite.

[Rainwater]

That's why I started with "if". We are waiting for the Trade deadline for sure. A lot of questions might be answered then or new ones might pop up. Anyway, we should be excited about our progression and the fun season ahead.

I completely agree with this and the magic are further along than I thought when they first started this rebuild process.

Personally, I believe the Magic front office set the goal of making the play-ins or clinching playoff berth this year and Mose is aware of that surely. It might not be put up as an imperative at that stage of the team development, but I have a feeling that this is the reality and is desired strongly by the organization.

All indications are present, just think about it. The team was advertised even before the training camp as an up-and-coming playoff contender, not by the media, but by the Orlando Magic franchise. All from the commentators, Dante, coaches, managers and players are talking about it nonstop long before the season started. All those are people employed by the franchise and are instructed to comply with the company's direction. It must have been a discussed topic during the summer break for sure.

Coach Mosley is trying to cut the rotation to 9-10 players (excluding the injuries and bench playing a larger role so far). He is relying on the more experienced players, limited PT mostly deep deep garbage time for rookies, Caleb, Jett, Admiral, Goga (before Wendell went down).

All these are clear indications that we are after the playoffs this season and that's a good thing. All the vibe around the team performance points in that direction in my opinion.

I just believe that the GMs are keeping quiet about it in order not to attract unnecessary attention to themselves in case we fail and not burden team/coaches with extra pressure from media/fans/etc. They are playing it smart as with everything they've done so far. They are always quiet and leave everyone guessing, so no surprise here we are not hearing "playoffs" from them.

I have said this a few times but if the Magic front office really cared about the playoffs and contending they they would have done way more than they did in the off season than staying the course. They would have fixed the PG position, got a few vets that could actually shot the ball, trade the draft picks for some proven players, I love Ingles but get better F/As. The organization did very little to contend despite the clear flaws the team has. Unless they really thought that internal growth would definitely get them into the playoffs they did a poor job of trying. I just feel like they are indifferent to the idea of the playoffs.

[Rainwater]

Oh sure. Why not. A lot of good and clear upgrades for Fultz in the PG spot esp since Cole cant cut it to be the starter and Black isnt ready yet for full PG duties.

But in a trade deadline, who is giving away a good PG? Especially for Fultz who is needing a new contract even with a pick attached? Only tanking teams blowing it up right?

Moving away from the hypnotically, I really don't know who is out there. But if the magic don't plan on resigning Fultz, which I don't think they plan on doing, they need to move him or lose him for nothing. The fact that they are playing so well without him should give the team reason to look at options that can help improve the team.

What if Markelle is resigned 15M per year? Would you do that? Cole got a great contract extension. Maybe Fultz too...

I really don't see the point of resigning him. He is not the long term starter, he can't shot the 3, and you have Black and Cole. What would be the point?

[MaKiaVeLi7]

I completely agree with this and the magic are further along than I thought when they first started this rebuild process.

Personally, I believe the Magic front office set the goal of making the play-ins or clinching playoff berth this year and Mose is aware of that surely. It might not be put up as an imperative at that stage of the team development, but I have a feeling that this is the reality and is desired strongly by the organization.

All indications are present, just think about it. The team was advertised even before the training camp as an up-and-coming playoff contender, not by the media, but by the Orlando Magic franchise. All from the commentators, Dante, coaches, managers and players are talking about it nonstop long before the season started. All those are people employed by the franchise and are instructed to comply with the company's direction. It must have been a discussed topic during the summer break for sure.

Coach Mosley is trying to cut the rotation to 9-10 players (excluding the injuries and bench playing a larger role so far). He is relying on the more experienced players, limited PT mostly deep deep garbage time for rookies, Caleb, Jett, Admiral, Goga (before Wendell went down).

All these are clear indications that we are after the playoffs this season and that's a good thing. All the vibe around the team performance points in that direction in my opinion.

I just believe that the GMs are keeping quiet about it in order not to attract unnecessary attention to themselves in case we fail and not burden team/coaches with extra pressure from media/fans/etc. They are playing it smart as with everything they've done so far. They are always quiet and leave everyone guessing, so no surprise here we are not hearing "playoffs" from them.

I have said this a few times but if the Magic front office really cared about the playoffs and contending they they would have done way more than they did in the off season than staying the course. They would have fixed the PG position, got a few vets that could actually shot the ball, trade your draft picks for some proven players, I love Ingles but get better F/As. The organization did very little to contend despite its clear flaws the team has. Unless they really thought that internal growth would definitely get them into the playoffs they did a poor job of trying. I just feel like they are indifferent to the idea of the playoffs.

You might be also correct on this. It's just so so hard to tell with our front office suffering from a fatal allergy to media or interaction with the fan base. Truth is we have 0 to no clue what WeHam are keeping their minds busy with.

[MasterGMer]

I completely agree with this and the magic are further along than I thought when they first started this rebuild process.

Personally, I believe the Magic front office set the goal of making the play-ins or clinching playoff berth this year and Mose is aware of that surely. It might not be put up as an imperative at that stage of the team development, but I have a feeling that this is the reality and is desired strongly by the organization.

All indications are present, just think about it. The team was advertised even before the training camp as an up-and-coming playoff contender, not by the media, but by the Orlando Magic franchise. All from the commentators, Dante, coaches, managers and players are talking about it nonstop long before the season started. All those are people employed by the franchise and are instructed to comply with the company's direction. It must have been a discussed topic during the summer break for sure.

Coach Mosley is trying to cut the rotation to 9-10 players (excluding the injuries and bench playing a larger role so far). He is relying on the more experienced players, limited PT mostly deep deep garbage time for rookies, Caleb, Jett, Admiral, Goga (before Wendell went down).

All these are clear indications that we are after the playoffs this season and that's a good thing. All the vibe around the team performance points in that direction in my opinion.

I just believe that the GMs are keeping quiet about it in order not to attract unnecessary attention to themselves in case we fail and not burden team/coaches with extra pressure from media/fans/etc. They are playing it smart as with everything they've done so far. They are always quiet and leave everyone guessing, so no surprise here we are not hearing "playoffs" from them.

I have said this a few times but if the Magic front office really cared about the playoffs and contending they they would have done way more than they did in the off season than staying the course. They would have fixed the PG position, got a few vets that could actually shot the ball, trade the draft picks for some proven players, I love Ingles but get better F/As. The organization did very little to contend despite the clear flaws the team has. Unless they really thought that internal growth would definitely get them into the playoffs they did a poor job of trying. I just feel like they are indifferent to the idea of the playoffs.

I think the FO is still relying on the young core. I also understand the saying you have to pick one from cherry and flowers. But in this case, I am thinking the leadership is trying to let the young core taking the next step up, thus not only not trading for veterans but also kept our young core

[DiplomaticMagic]

Hopefully the players know that on Tuesday the defense is going to be a lot harder than it was today. I cant believe people thought we were going to be blown out by the Pacers

[jibba jones]

Fultz has 0 value.
Honestly, what do you think he brings back? Who would pay to get him?

He’s a throw-in or he expires and walks

[pepe1991]

ffs i was so damn exited to watch this game, like, whole last week, just to get ill and vomit whole day and fall asleep one damn hour before a game and wake up few min after game finished (well..i blacked out in like 30 sec after i checked score on espn )

Looks like great win, i'll try to rewatch whole game.

We are 8-5 guys !

[RookieStar]

ffs i was so damn exited to watch this game, like, whole last week, just to get ill and vomit whole day and fall asleep one damn hour before a game and wake up few min after game finished (well..i blacked out in like 30 sec after i checked score on espn )

Looks like great win, i'll try to rewatch whole game.

We are 8-5 guys !

Yeah.. this guy is an imposter. No way the real pepe is this positive.

[KillMonger]

I am still on the bandwagon of Markelle Fultz. When is he going to come back?

Hear me? Redemption time, Markelle!

I still think Markelle has the skills, size and ball handling to be a very good PG in the league. He's shown flashes which proves to me he is in the best shape of his life starting the season. But injury hurts and he's been out. And also he hasn't nailed a 3pt shot yet especially after he has greatly improved his mechanics shooting the ball this offseason.

I am also a Wendell fan. I think with Wendell, because of his defense and rebounding, his game can take us to another level.

But let's pray injury doesn't derail us from our goal.

This upcoming week is probably going to test us to see how good we are. If we come away with Ws, I am very hopeful we are a REAL good team in the Eastern Conference if not there yet

flashes? did i see that right?


we're talking about somebody thats currently in their 7th season....I know that he hasn't played a ton of basketball on the court due to injuries but is it really apt to be using terms like "potential" and "flashes" for someone that's pushing 10 seasons in? i mean he's about to hit his 10 year pension lol..... Not just you but i see that around on social media and i'm like do they still think markelle is a rookie or something?

[SloNick Russia]

I am still on the bandwagon of Markelle Fultz. When is he going to come back?

Hear me? Redemption time, Markelle!

I still think Markelle has the skills, size and ball handling to be a very good PG in the league. He's shown flashes which proves to me he is in the best shape of his life starting the season. But injury hurts and he's been out. And also he hasn't nailed a 3pt shot yet especially after he has greatly improved his mechanics shooting the ball this offseason.

I am also a Wendell fan. I think with Wendell, because of his defense and rebounding, his game can take us to another level.

But let's pray injury doesn't derail us from our goal.

This upcoming week is probably going to test us to see how good we are. If we come away with Ws, I am very hopeful we are a REAL good team in the Eastern Conference if not there yet

flashes? did i see that right?


we're talking about somebody thats currently in their 7th season....I know that he hasn't played a ton of basketball on the court due to injuries but is it really apt to be using terms like "potential" and "flashes" for someone that's pushing 10 seasons in? i mean he's about to hit his 10 year pension lol..... Not just you but i see that around on social media and i'm like do they still think markelle is a rookie or something?

Dude, had you a chance to see any Magic games after the All-Star last season? Or you just hate Fultz for some reason? His knee issue is real due to number of games he missed already, who knows how limited was he in games he played.
I will never understand this delusional hate towards a Magic player who plays hard for us.
Guess same people suggested to cut JI for years.

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[drsd]

The Magic will now play 3 games in 4 nights, with two of them being tournament games.

Who made this schedule…?!

Here's a story on the sausage making: link: How the NBA's schedule puzzle is put together

In brief: it is not brief. It takes fro November one year to August the next to make the October season schedule. For example, Evan Wasch's team started now for the 2024/25 schedule of all 30 teams.

[KillMonger]

I am still on the bandwagon of Markelle Fultz. When is he going to come back?

Hear me? Redemption time, Markelle!

I still think Markelle has the skills, size and ball handling to be a very good PG in the league. He's shown flashes which proves to me he is in the best shape of his life starting the season. But injury hurts and he's been out. And also he hasn't nailed a 3pt shot yet especially after he has greatly improved his mechanics shooting the ball this offseason.

I am also a Wendell fan. I think with Wendell, because of his defense and rebounding, his game can take us to another level.

But let's pray injury doesn't derail us from our goal.

This upcoming week is probably going to test us to see how good we are. If we come away with Ws, I am very hopeful we are a REAL good team in the Eastern Conference if not there yet

flashes? did i see that right?


we're talking about somebody thats currently in their 7th season....I know that he hasn't played a ton of basketball on the court due to injuries but is it really apt to be using terms like "potential" and "flashes" for someone that's pushing 10 seasons in? i mean he's about to hit his 10 year pension lol..... Not just you but i see that around on social media and i'm like do they still think markelle is a rookie or something?

Dude, had you a chance to see any Magic games after the All-Star last season? Or you just hate Fultz for some reason? His knee issue is real due to number of games he missed already, who knows how limited was he in games he played.
I will never understand this delusional hate towards a Magic player who plays hard for us.
Guess same people suggested to cut JI for years.

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so...you read what i had to say and interpreted "hate" from that? where's the hate? i'm just pointing out that we shouldn't be treating fultz like he's some prospect, he's a veteran....full blown

[drsd]

Gary Harris not getting enough love by Magic fans....hes played great last 2 games. I dont want to trade him lol

ANd-1

G-Harris as a bench SG is a solid player. He is particularly complimentary to Anthony and M-Wagner, and those three score a lot of points for the Magic bench.