Playoffs G3: Toronto Raptors (2) @ Orlando Magic (7) - A Reptile Dysfunction

thelead · Post #661 » by **thelead** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:20 am

mattyBoi wrote:How is Isaac not in.

Especially with Evan’s struggles on both ends of the court

CalOrl11 · Post #662 » by **CalOrl11** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:20 am

If Kawhi isn't being an absolute beast, Boston beats the Raptors quite easily imo

neuraldarwinism · Post #663 » by **neuraldarwinism** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:20 am

what the **** at these iphone commercials on watch espn

Message Boar · Post #664 » by **Message Boar** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:21 am

Evan's drives/layups have completely dried up this series, too. Gotta try to get that going somehow. That could help his confidence, too.

Post #665 » by **SOUL** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:21 am

pepe1991 wrote:
SOUL wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:

Yea but Magic are being killed by Siakam and Leonard and only reason why we keep forcing 2 PFs is because they are allegedly elite defenders, and him being wracked by Siakam and Leonard defeats whole purpose of their (co)existence.

Guards are utter trash but that's nothing new, and again it ties with Magic Gordon- Isaac problem ,as team has nobody on guard or wing position to handle ball and be secundary ballhandlers.

If you think those guys are playing bad defense and getting wrecked, I dont know what game you're watching. Just because that is their primary defender doesn't mean they're scoring on them all the time or that they aren't making them work for hard shots.

I didn't say they play defense, i said they don't make enough difference on defense to jusfty their limitations on offense ,clear problems with them clogging two wing positions.
There is simply no versitality with them ,both are stiff with ball, both don't attack off dribble, both don't draw fouls and non of them is elite shooter.
There was really nice data few months ago how their net rating together isn't bad, but in both cases when one is off and Ross is in, team plays better. And it's not like Ross is some elite wing player, just gets a job done better.

Siakam is averaging like what ? 24 ppg on 50% FG, that's not working hard ... He does whatever he wants.

I mean I can compile a compilation of video clips the past 3 games if you want... even a Raptors writer did an entire article with gifs about how even though Pascal scored 24 points the first game, only 6-8 or so were on Isaac and the rest of the defense was very contested even when he made those shots.

He got the best of Isaac a few times tonight, but Pascal has scored on like 6 diff players.. again.. if you're thinking he's not making him work hard, that screams bias.

Cderryberry · Post #666 » by **Cderryberry** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:22 am

Horrible decision by Vuc and that’s game

Message Boar · Post #667 » by **Message Boar** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:22 am

CalOrl11 wrote:If Kawhi isn't being an absolute beast, Boston beats the Raptors quite easily imo

If seeding holds they have Philly next, no? Well if not for the fact that the Magic are gonna pull off the ALL-TIME UPSET!!

BlueBalls · Post #668 » by **BlueBalls** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:22 am

**** you Clifford. This loss is yours

neuraldarwinism · Post #669 » by **neuraldarwinism** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:22 am

clutch vuc

Post #670 » by **Def Swami** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:23 am

It's not that Fournier is having shooting woes. He's just bleeding points on the other end too.

thelead · Post #671 » by **thelead** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:23 am

Some will never appreciate AG’s defense

Cderryberry · Post #672 » by **Cderryberry** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:24 am

My god give Ross a lifetime contract

Bonafide89 · Post #673 » by **Bonafide89** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:24 am

Def Swami wrote:It's not that Fournier is having shooting woes. He's just bleeding points on the other end too.

So Isaac has been our best player today and he's on the bench. Gotcha

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neuraldarwinism · Post #674 » by **neuraldarwinism** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:24 am

lord if that ross shot fell

NavalAviator94 · Post #675 » by **NavalAviator94** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:24 am

Dig Deep guys

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pepe1991 · Post #676 » by **pepe1991** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:24 am

SOUL wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
SOUL wrote:
If you think those guys are playing bad defense and getting wrecked, I dont know what game you're watching. Just because that is their primary defender doesn't mean they're scoring on them all the time or that they aren't making them work for hard shots.

I didn't say they play defense, i said they don't make enough difference on defense to jusfty their limitations on offense ,clear problems with them clogging two wing positions.
There is simply no versitality with them ,both are stiff with ball, both don't attack off dribble, both don't draw fouls and non of them is elite shooter.
There was really nice data few months ago how their net rating together isn't bad, but in both cases when one is off and Ross is in, team plays better. And it's not like Ross is some elite wing player, just gets a job done better.

Siakam is averaging like what ? 24 ppg on 50% FG, that's not working hard ... He does whatever he wants.

I mean I can compile a compilation of video clips the past 3 games if you want... even a Raptors writer did an entire article with gifs about how even though Pascal scored 24 points the first game, only 6-8 or so were on Isaac and the rest of the defense was very contested even when he made those shots.

He got the best of Isaac a few times tonight, but Pascal has scored on like 6 diff players.. again.. if you're thinking he's not making him work hard, that screams bias.

He has 28 points on 11-19 shooting. 1 on 1 defense is second to uslesss as a skill in nba today, it's all about team defense, I don't talk about individual defense or defense in general. I'm talking about Magic wing players . Gordon had 2 good games, looks pretty meh in this one, Isaac shoots 3-17 for 3 in playoffs and has 1 assist in 3 games. Non of them play with a ball-, both are better when others do work for them. In same time Magic guards can't create for them. Just bad fits all across the board.

thelead · Post #677 » by **thelead** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:24 am

Siakam is Scottie Pippen reincarnated

neuraldarwinism · Post #678 » by **neuraldarwinism** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:24 am

rossrossrossrossrossrossrossrossrossrossross

neuraldarwinism · Post #679 » by **neuraldarwinism** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:25 am

not sure why fournier is on siakim

Cderryberry · Post #680 » by **Cderryberry** » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:25 am

Vuc oh Vuc two hands on damn ball!