2022-2023 Magic Trade and Free Agency Idea Thread III

shadrock · Post #661 » by **shadrock** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 am

Would it not make a lot of sense for the Magic to take on a big contract between now and the time Paolo and Franz get their first big deals? We have the capacity to take on salary for atleast 2 more years. Why not CP3? Hes got approx 2 years, 60 million left on his deal. Could be a great mentor and help us win now too.

ogmagicfan · Post #662 » by **ogmagicfan** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:18 am

basketballRob wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:Can someone tell the delusional Suns & Mavs fans we're not going to trade WCJ for their shi*ty trade offers?

Wait... what and where are their trade threads?
It looks like Twitter is crazy with rumors. Wendell, Suggs, and assets for Dallas ' 10th pick or Ayton. A few Golden State fans think we'll give them players and picks for Poole.

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I've been seeing them mostly on Twitter. Almost forgot about GSW fans too.

WCJ contract was already great, now its a top 5 valuable big man contract that isn't a rookie contract in the league with the new CBA.

Trading him compromises our cap space, hence me only being open to trading WCJ in a package with other assets for a top 30ish player, not for players on bad contracts like Ayton, Herro, or Poole.

WCJ is a great fit on this team, and if he can improve specifically at rebounding and interior defense while staying healthy, he'll be about as good of a fit that we'll have at center.

RookieStar · Post #663 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:20 am

Hot take : every competent GM and coach knows that wcj is one of the few Centers that can adequatly guard the real MVP.

Thus, championship aspiring teams need a wcj on their way to a ring.

RookieStar · Post #664 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:22 am

ogmagicfan wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
RookieStar wrote:
Wait... what and where are their trade threads?
It looks like Twitter is crazy with rumors. Wendell, Suggs, and assets for Dallas ' 10th pick or Ayton. A few Golden State fans think we'll give them players and picks for Poole.

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I've been seeing them mostly on Twitter. Almost forgot about GSW fans too.

WCJ contract was already great, now its a top 5 valuable big man contract that isn't a rookie contract in the league with the new CBA.

Trading him compromises our cap space, hence me only being open to trading WCJ in a package with other assets for a top 30ish player, not for players on bad contracts like Ayton, Herro, or Poole.

WCJ is a great fit on this team, and if he can improve specifically at rebounding and interior defense while staying healthy, he'll be about as good of a fit that we'll have at center.

Oh.. i thought it was a thread here. Cuz if it was, i would have called the ol " Diener Team Assemble " nd we descend on that thread.

Residual-Heat · Post #665 » by **Residual-Heat** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 3:45 am

Residual-Heat wrote:Markelle for a 1 year rental of CP3?

So now that he's been traded to the Wizards.. Maybe they would rather have Markelle. Id do this.

fateis007 · Post #666 » by **fateis007** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:07 am

Residual-Heat wrote:
Residual-Heat wrote:Markelle for a 1 year rental of CP3?

So now that he's been traded to the Wizards.. Maybe they would rather have Markelle. Id do this.

What is with the Fultz hate? Let's give up our starting pointguard, that we have bird rights too, for a 39 year old cp3 on a one year deal. that is just a dumb idea.

Residual-Heat · Post #667 » by **Residual-Heat** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:15 am

fateis007 wrote:
Residual-Heat wrote:
Residual-Heat wrote:Markelle for a 1 year rental of CP3?

So now that he's been traded to the Wizards.. Maybe they would rather have Markelle. Id do this.

What is with the Fultz hate? Let's give up our starting pointguard, that we have bird rights too, for a 39 year old cp3 on a one year deal. that is just a dumb idea.

Its not "hate" its the fact that i recognize he's not a good fit with Paolo and Franz. I dont want the Magic to make the mistake of offering him a long term contract exactly for that reason. I dont want them to commit long term to a below average PG who is a poor fit. That would be the dumb idea... Even at 39 years old CP3 is still a better player.

MagicManMike · Post #668 » by **MagicManMike** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 4:26 am

Residual-Heat wrote:
fateis007 wrote:
Residual-Heat wrote:So now that he's been traded to the Wizards.. Maybe they would rather have Markelle. Id do this.

What is with the Fultz hate? Let's give up our starting pointguard, that we have bird rights too, for a 39 year old cp3 on a one year deal. that is just a dumb idea.

It’s not "hate" its the fact that i recognize he's not a good fit with Paolo and Franz. I dont want the Magic to make the mistake of offering him a long term contract exactly for that reason. I dont want them to commit long term to a below average PG who is a poor fit. That would be the dumb idea... Even at 39 years old CP3 is still a better player.

No thanks because after next season you have to replace CP3 or over pay to stay. It will mess up the long term chemistry of the young guys and the team.

Resign Fultz at slightly higher than a back up PG deal and hope he makes continued improvement. If he doesn’t you have an excellent back up and still in the same position to replace him with a better player just like we would be next offseason

drsd · Post #669 » by **drsd** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 6:48 am

MagicManMike wrote:Resign Fultz at slightly higher than a back up PG deal and hope he makes continued improvement. If he doesn’t you have an excellent back up and still in the same position to replace him with a better player just like we would be next offseason

And-1

Fultz next contract could be blessing for Orlando in the same way Carter's is now !

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pepe1991 · Post #670 » by **pepe1991** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:33 am

drsd wrote:
MagicManMike wrote:Resign Fultz at slightly higher than a back up PG deal and hope he makes continued improvement. If he doesn’t you have an excellent back up and still in the same position to replace him with a better player just like we would be next offseason

And-1

Fultz next contract could be blessing for Orlando in the same way Carter's is now !

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Even his current contract is bigger than Wendell's contract so i highly doubt his contract would be anything lower than some 4 years -100M type money as base.

Post #671 » by **Bensational** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:46 am

I really want to know where Porzingis ends up. He has a player option so he needs to accept that before Washington can move him, and I don't think he'll get better than the $36M option he has.

I've pitched KP + 8 to Portland before. He'd look good in GSW and give them some rim protection and a big to throw at Jokic (won't do anything). Poole + Kuminga for Porzingis. Washington gets a couple young studs for their rebuild, GSW gets a big man on a big expiring contract. Brooklyn might want him, but do Washington want Ben Simmons? Send him back to New York for Fournier + Hartenstein + Toppin/Grimes + some picks?

Post #672 » by **eyriq** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:34 am

Bensational wrote:I really want to know where Porzingis ends up. He has a player option so he needs to accept that before Washington can move him, and I don't think he'll get better than the $36M option he has.

I've pitched KP + 8 to Portland before. He'd look good in GSW and give them some rim protection and a big to throw at Jokic (won't do anything). Poole + Kuminga for Porzingis. Washington gets a couple young studs for their rebuild, GSW gets a big man on a big expiring contract. Brooklyn might want him, but do Washington want Ben Simmons? Send him back to New York for Fournier + Hartenstein + Toppin/Grimes + some picks?

One of the best stretch 5s in the game.

Post #673 » by **Bensational** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 am

If the Suns move Ayton I think the Thunder could be a buyer. They can absorb most of his contract and send back some depth guys like Dort, Aaron Wiggins, Jaylin (not len) Williams, Nwaba.

Ayton/(Lively via draft?)
Chet/(FA)
Giddey/(FA)
JWill/Joe
SGA/Tre

MasterGMer · Post #674 » by **MasterGMer** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:01 am

Read on Twitter

Post #675 » by **eyriq** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:08 am

MasterGMer wrote:

Read on Twitter

More Grant Williams smoke. I like it

MasterGMer · Post #676 » by **MasterGMer** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:12 am

eyriq wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:

Read on Twitter
More Grant Williams smoke. I like it

He'd be a perfect fit. From a Championship level team being the veteran piece for Magic. I like it. And probably not that expensive either

Skybox · Post #677 » by **Skybox** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:49 am

MasterGMer wrote:
eyriq wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:

Read on Twitter
More Grant Williams smoke. I like it

He'd be a perfect fit. From a Championship level team being the veteran piece for Magic. I like it. And probably not that expensive either

I do too…but he’s not coming to a rebuild for the MLE. ORL would have to overpay. I’m sure BOS (and any contender) would want him…just a matter of price. I like him, but not as our “big fish” FA signing. I feel same way about GTJ - good player, good fit, but overpay candidate (unless, maybe, you’re in line for a ring). Nobody is giving ORL a discount - not Williams, not GTJ, not Cole, not FVV, not Fultz- spend wisely…learn from WAS’s debacle about “loyalty”…spend wisely.

RookieStar · Post #678 » by **RookieStar** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:58 am

Soooo... Grant Williams for more than 20m/yr. Is that what we are doing now?

Also, we want Grant??? The idiot who unlocked playoff Jimmy? Lol

basketballRob · Post #679 » by **basketballRob** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:07 pm

MasterGMer wrote:
eyriq wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:

Read on Twitter
More Grant Williams smoke. I like it

He'd be a perfect fit. From a Championship level team being the veteran piece for Magic. I like it. And probably not that expensive either

I've actually seen Celtics fans floating Grant and a future pick for Wendell.

I think you offer Grant a front-loaded deal starting around $14-15m, and if the Celtics match, then look elsewhere.

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MasterGMer · Post #680 » by **MasterGMer** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:16 pm

basketballRob wrote:
MasterGMer wrote:
eyriq wrote:More Grant Williams smoke. I like it

He'd be a perfect fit. From a Championship level team being the veteran piece for Magic. I like it. And probably not that expensive either
I've actually seen Celtics fans floating Grant and a future pick for Wendell.

I think you offer Grant a front-loaded deal starting around $14-15m, and if the Celtics match, then look elsewhere.

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No way I trade Wendell