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Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#661 » by drsd » Sun Jul 14, 2024 11:49 pm

Orlando finished 19-28 against teams with records better than .500 last year. That was the worst mark among all teams that made the playoffs.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#662 » by msmoore66 » Mon Jul 15, 2024 11:27 pm

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Orlando finished 19-28 against teams with records better than .500 last year. That was the worst mark among all teams that made the playoffs.


Yeah we are totally screwed.
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Post#663 » by tooler » Tue Jul 16, 2024 2:23 pm

The concern is they went 28-7 against teams below .500 and if they take their foot off the gas next season, that's a recipe for trouble. I'm still holding to my theory that the team takes a brief step back next season. However, I thought Paolo would do the same and I was wrong.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

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Post#666 » by Furinkazan » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:11 am

the player id love to add va trade is Fox but Kings are all in...they would have to suck and its unlikely they will suck....hope is they are on the west and west is insanely tough and talented so maybe something will go wrong for them but i highly doubt it...one can dream though
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Post#667 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:28 am

Furinkazan wrote:the player id love to add va trade is Fox but Kings are all in...they would have to suck and its unlikely they will suck....hope is they are on the west and west is insanely tough and talented so maybe something will go wrong for them but i highly doubt it...one can dream though


Fox, Ellis, Derozan, Keegan, Sabo
Monk, Huerter, McDaniels, Lyes, Len...

That's a good team. 3 allstars ectually.
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Post#668 » by basketballRob » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:00 am

I can't see this franchise spending almost $1 billion on 3 players when they won't even spend the money to televise all their preseason games.

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Post#669 » by p0peye » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:32 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:the player id love to add va trade is Fox but Kings are all in...they would have to suck and its unlikely they will suck....hope is they are on the west and west is insanely tough and talented so maybe something will go wrong for them but i highly doubt it...one can dream though


Fox, Ellis, Derozan, Keegan, Sabo
Monk, Huerter, McDaniels, Lyes, Len...

That's a good team. 3 allstars ectually.


It will make an excellent fire sale in 2 years.
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#670 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:58 am

p0peye wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Furinkazan wrote:the player id love to add va trade is Fox but Kings are all in...they would have to suck and its unlikely they will suck....hope is they are on the west and west is insanely tough and talented so maybe something will go wrong for them but i highly doubt it...one can dream though


Fox, Ellis, Derozan, Keegan, Sabo
Monk, Huerter, McDaniels, Lyes, Len...

That's a good team. 3 allstars ectually.


It will make an excellent fire sale in 2 years.


Well, good assets to sell to kickstart rebuild :lol:
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Post#671 » by p0peye » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:59 am

pepe1991 wrote:
p0peye wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Fox, Ellis, Derozan, Keegan, Sabo
Monk, Huerter, McDaniels, Lyes, Len...

That's a good team. 3 allstars ectually.


It will make an excellent fire sale in 2 years.


Well, good assets to sell to kickstart rebuild :lol:


And have a "Anti-tankers, where you at" thread 12 years in future.
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Post#672 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:11 am

p0peye wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
p0peye wrote:
It will make an excellent fire sale in 2 years.


Well, good assets to sell to kickstart rebuild :lol:


And have a "Anti-tankers, where you at" thread 12 years in future.


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Post#673 » by eyriq » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:16 pm

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Post#674 » by RichCollab » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:40 pm

eyriq wrote:Great summer league so far for Tristan.

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Post#675 » by yoyojw17 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:23 pm

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eyriq wrote:Great summer league so far for Tristan.

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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#676 » by RichCollab » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:34 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
eyriq wrote:Great summer league so far for Tristan.

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Post#677 » by eyriq » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:56 am

Fultz and Ingles are out. Cole and Harris are on the hot seat due to underperforming in the playoffs.

Harris was 5th in minutes played during the playoffs but 8th in game score. Cole was 9th in minutes yet didn't even finish in the top 10 in game score.

They are consistently given ample opportunity to impact the game yet their impact is lacking.

These two really stand out as playoff underperformers. We know Harris is getting demoted, KCP is taking the starting job and Harris took a massive pay cut on a short-term contract. Cole is starting his new contract, and we have an incentive to salvage his value. Cole is still youngish, too. I just don't think he's a safe bet.

Top ten in minutes played during the playoffs:

1. Paolo
2. Franz
3. Suggs
4. WCJ
5. Harris
6. JI
7. Fultz
8. Moritz
9. Cole
10. Ingles

Top ten in game score:

1. Paolo
2. Franz
3. Suggs
4. WCJ
5. JI
6. Fultz
7. Moritz
8. Harris
9. Ingles
10. Okeke
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#678 » by eyriq » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:00 am

I didn't really make a clear point. My point is that with three young players out of the rotation and only one spot opened up by off-season moves (Fultz and Ingles out, KCP in), Harris and Cole are on the hot seat.

At least one of AB, Jett, and Tristan are getting minutes. What's the probability that two of them are in? All three?

At least one of them getting minutes I'm putting at 99% probability. Sorry Caleb.

Two of them at 49%.

Three of them at 5%.
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Post#679 » by KillMonger » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:43 am

eyriq wrote:I didn't really make a clear point. My point is that with three young players out of the rotation and only one spot opened up by off-season moves (Fultz and Ingles out, KCP in), Harris and Cole are on the hot seat.

At least one of AB, Jett, and Tristan are getting minutes. What's the probability that two of them are in? All three?

At least one of them getting minutes I'm putting at 99% probability. Sorry Caleb.

Two of them at 49%.

Three of them at 5%.

i don't think harris is a lock, we literally got a better harris in KCP....in my mind

Fultz-AB
Harris-Jett
Ingles-Tristan

then again, my perspective is biased since i'm all the way out on Gary "cardio" Harris
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Re: Official 2023-2024 Magic General Season Thread II 

Post#680 » by drsd » Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:13 am

eyriq wrote:Great summer league so far for Tristan.

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