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Post#681 » by basketballRob » Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:27 pm

Washington trying to give away Hutchison and a second round pick.

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Post#682 » by The Effect » Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:38 pm

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What are we gonna do with more 2nd rounders? Dont the devos family have enough money?
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Post#683 » by basketballRob » Tue Aug 3, 2021 7:40 pm

I'm waiting on us to waive and stretch Harris and give Derozan 2 yrs 40m.

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Post#686 » by basketballRob » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:08 pm

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Ball/LaVine/DeRozan/Vuc - they gonna be atrocious
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Bulls trying to go all in, but that lineup will be atrocious. DeRozan is washed, our pick in 2023 has a good chance to go straight back to the lottery again.
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Ball/LaVine/DeRozan/Vuc - they gonna be atrocious

They’re going to need a unicorn at the PF to balance that roster.
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Post#691 » by ogmagicfan » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:21 pm

Bulls should find themselves atleast in a play in spot. Lonzo was a big addition especially on their perimeter defense which was horrendous and alot better compliment to Lavine. Williams is gonna have to step his game up considerably on defense if theyre gonna make the playoffs without being a play in team
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Post#692 » by Xatticus » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:22 pm

If the Bulls don't win games this year, how long does Karnisovas last? You pretty much have to watch this team though, right? How can one lineup contain Vucevic, LaVine, and DeRozan? They need to bring in Paul Westhead to coach them. That's the only way there will be enough shots to go around.
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NGL.. defense will suffer but man if I can't see that team be in the POs. Add an improving PWill to the PF role and they will surprise a lot of teams.

Their bench though...
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Post#694 » by VFX » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:35 pm

Wow Chicago… and I thought Orlando couldn’t stretch the floor.
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Post#695 » by PrimeThyme » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:39 pm

Xatticus wrote:If the Bulls don't win games this year, how long does Karnisovas last? You pretty much have to watch this team though, right? How can one lineup contain Vucevic, LaVine, and DeRozan? They need to bring in Paul Westhead to coach them. That's the only way there will be enough shots to go around.

I like them more than I did before the offseason but I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid yet.

Ironically, Lonzo is now probably my favorite player on their roster. However, this is still an 8-10th seed to me && they have to make the playoffs. Karnisovas seat will catch fire next offseason if they don't.

Pat Williams is a huge swing player for them. Lonzo/Pat project to be the only plus defenders in the SL. They need him to develop into a top 75 All-defensive team type defender sooner rather than later. I'd be decently encouraged after last year in that becoming a real possibility. Not sure it happens this year though, so a lot rides on Lonzo's continued development.
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Post#696 » by jvdas » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:43 pm

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Xatticus wrote:If the Bulls don't win games this year, how long does Karnisovas last? You pretty much have to watch this team though, right? How can one lineup contain Vucevic, LaVine, and DeRozan? They need to bring in Paul Westhead to coach them. That's the only way there will be enough shots to go around.

I like them more than I did before the offseason but I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid yet.

Ironically, Lonzo is now probably my favorite player on their roster. However, this is still an 8-10th seed to me && they have to make the playoffs. Karnisovas seat will catch fire next offseason if they don't.

Pat Williams is a huge swing player for them. Lonzo/Pat project to be the only plus defenders in the SL. They need him to develop into a top 75 All-defensive team type defender sooner rather than later. I'd be decently encouraged after last year in that becoming a real possibility. Not sure it happens this year though, so a lot rides on Lonzo's continued development.


Especially because they traded so many FRPs away. In the DeRozan trade another first rounder is involved, you have to assume it's the one from 2025, looking at the Stepien rule. They're crippled with horrible contracts if it doesn't work out, plus losing the pick in 23' and 25' if you don't look at the protections.

Anyway his seat should be hot if this doesn't pan out, it's an absolute win now move acquiring Lonzo and DeMar, can't see that lineup working, especially defensively.
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Post#697 » by tiderulz » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:52 pm

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Bulls trying to go all in, but that lineup will be atrocious. DeRozan is washed, our pick in 2023 has a good chance to go straight back to the lottery again.

huh? you can not like his playing style, but he just put up his 8th straight 20+ ppg season last year. He isnt washed up.
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Post#698 » by jvdas » Tue Aug 3, 2021 9:03 pm

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Bulls trying to go all in, but that lineup will be atrocious. DeRozan is washed, our pick in 2023 has a good chance to go straight back to the lottery again.

huh? you can not like his playing style, but he just put up his 8th straight 20+ ppg season last year. He isnt washed up.


He had a career high in assist, i have to admit. But scoringwise he’s constantly regressing but you could find the reason in him not taking that many FGA.

Maybe washed is the wrong term, but i thin DeRozan is past his prime and will never be a winning player, i think of him more like Vucevic who was also an empty stats guy, but a blackhole on defense.
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Re: Around the NBA- 2020/2021 Edition 

Post#700 » by Xatticus » Tue Aug 3, 2021 9:08 pm

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Xatticus wrote:If the Bulls don't win games this year, how long does Karnisovas last? You pretty much have to watch this team though, right? How can one lineup contain Vucevic, LaVine, and DeRozan? They need to bring in Paul Westhead to coach them. That's the only way there will be enough shots to go around.

I like them more than I did before the offseason but I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid yet.

Ironically, Lonzo is now probably my favorite player on their roster. However, this is still an 8-10th seed to me && they have to make the playoffs. Karnisovas seat will catch fire next offseason if they don't.

Pat Williams is a huge swing player for them. Lonzo/Pat project to be the only plus defenders in the SL. They need him to develop into a top 75 All-defensive team type defender sooner rather than later. I'd be decently encouraged after last year in that becoming a real possibility. Not sure it happens this year though, so a lot rides on Lonzo's continued development.


Especially because they traded so many FRPs away. In the DeRozan trade another first rounder is involved, you have to assume it's the one from 2025, looking at the Stepien rule. They're crippled with horrible contracts if it doesn't work out, plus losing the pick in 23' and 25' if you don't look at the protections.

Anyway his seat should be hot if this doesn't pan out, it's an absolute win now move acquiring Lonzo and DeMar, can't see that lineup working, especially defensively.


And it gets worse... DeRozan is 32. Vucevic is 31.

They need to work out an extension for LaVine, but they can't do that now because they don't have the cap space. They have to let him hit free agency and hope he elects to stay.

Karnisovas might be salting the earth in Chicago if this season goes pear-shaped. If LaVine walks for nothing, their future looks really bleak with only aging vets that won't net good returns in trades and no draft picks to work with. They have to win enough this year to convince LaVine to stay or Karnisovas will have his name etched into the annals of history alongside Billy King and Isiah Thomas.
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