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Who do you want us to take at #1?

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Who would you take at #1?

Jabari smith
111
51%
Chet Holmgren
63
29%
Paolo Banchero
27
13%
Jaden Ivey
1
0%
Keegan Murray
1
0%
Shaedon Sharpe
8
4%
Other
5
2%
 
Total votes: 216

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#681 » by swarlesbarkley » Tue May 24, 2022 7:14 pm

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ruffian253 wrote:Not sold on Smith unless you want JJJ 2.0 and a 3pt shooting 6'10. Just watched his tournament highlights below, and besides the dunk off the rebounds, all he shot was 3s. That's all fine and dandy, but when it's not going in (see Miami game) what else is there? He has all the tools, but it's the mindset that is concerning. Maybe it's these new age bigs that wants to shoot 3s and not bang (KAT, DA, JJJ). Is that what you want from your #1 pick?

At least with Chet, the mentality is there, but the body isn't, but that can be worked on. I would even consider Paolo before Jabari with his diverse offensive game as he can from all 3 levels, but just not sure if thee are enough shots to go around with him and the rest of the you bucks on the magic who are still trying to prove themselves trying to get that next contract or live up the hype.

He did amazing for an 18-year-old kid. I was checking what other 18-year-olds did in the tournament. Edwards didn't make the NCAA Tournament but he played one conference tournament game. 40 min., 2-13 field goals, 1-9 from 3, 2 rebounds, 1 assist.

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If you liked what Jabari did in the tournament at his age - you must've loved what Paolo did for his age (only 6 months older than Jabari, both 19 now).
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#682 » by basketballRob » Tue May 24, 2022 8:18 pm

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ruffian253 wrote:Not sold on Smith unless you want JJJ 2.0 and a 3pt shooting 6'10. Just watched his tournament highlights below, and besides the dunk off the rebounds, all he shot was 3s. That's all fine and dandy, but when it's not going in (see Miami game) what else is there? He has all the tools, but it's the mindset that is concerning. Maybe it's these new age bigs that wants to shoot 3s and not bang (KAT, DA, JJJ). Is that what you want from your #1 pick?

At least with Chet, the mentality is there, but the body isn't, but that can be worked on. I would even consider Paolo before Jabari with his diverse offensive game as he can from all 3 levels, but just not sure if thee are enough shots to go around with him and the rest of the you bucks on the magic who are still trying to prove themselves trying to get that next contract or live up the hype.

He did amazing for an 18-year-old kid. I was checking what other 18-year-olds did in the tournament. Edwards didn't make the NCAA Tournament but he played one conference tournament game. 40 min., 2-13 field goals, 1-9 from 3, 2 rebounds, 1 assist.

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If you liked what Jabari did in the tournament at his age - you must've loved what Paolo did for his age (only 6 months older than Jabari, both 19 now).
Paolo is probably the most NBA-ready prospect. I think Jabari has a higher upside tho.

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#683 » by MAGICian619 » Tue May 24, 2022 8:23 pm

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basketballRob wrote:
ruffian253 wrote:Not sold on Smith unless you want JJJ 2.0 and a 3pt shooting 6'10. Just watched his tournament highlights below, and besides the dunk off the rebounds, all he shot was 3s. That's all fine and dandy, but when it's not going in (see Miami game) what else is there? He has all the tools, but it's the mindset that is concerning. Maybe it's these new age bigs that wants to shoot 3s and not bang (KAT, DA, JJJ). Is that what you want from your #1 pick?

At least with Chet, the mentality is there, but the body isn't, but that can be worked on. I would even consider Paolo before Jabari with his diverse offensive game as he can from all 3 levels, but just not sure if thee are enough shots to go around with him and the rest of the you bucks on the magic who are still trying to prove themselves trying to get that next contract or live up the hype.

He did amazing for an 18-year-old kid. I was checking what other 18-year-olds did in the tournament. Edwards didn't make the NCAA Tournament but he played one conference tournament game. 40 min., 2-13 field goals, 1-9 from 3, 2 rebounds, 1 assist.

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If you liked what Jabari did in the tournament at his age - you must've loved what Paolo did for his age (only 6 months older than Jabari, both 19 now).


Paolo to the Magic isn't happening. It's Jabari or Chet for good reason.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#684 » by basketballRob » Tue May 24, 2022 9:30 pm

Odds up to -210 for Jabari +160 Chet.

https://www.thelines.com/nba-draft-odds-report-jabari-smith-orlando-magic-2022/

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#685 » by CZ Eddie » Tue May 24, 2022 10:12 pm

bigdogdylan5 wrote:So watched my first two Jabari games and holy hell is he impressive on both ends If he can improve the finishing at the rim he is a damn star. But my biggest reaction from Auburn? WTF are those guards the one guy is jacking up long threes and air balling them and just running into the lane like a RB.

Watch his game against Colin Castleton of the Florida Gators.
He had a hard time against Colin.
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Post#686 » by RookieStar » Tue May 24, 2022 10:45 pm

Wow all these experts, draft gurus and etc already know who we will pick? Really? Where our FO is more secretive than Area 51?

Which of them predicted we reach for Franz last draft?
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Post#687 » by dc » Tue May 24, 2022 10:55 pm

RookieStar wrote:Wow all these experts, draft gurus and etc already know who we will pick? Really? Where our FO is more secretive than Area 51?

Which of them predicted we reach for Franz last draft?


I really don't think Franz at 8 was much of a reach, if at all. Taking a raw Ziaire, who had a pretty ho-hum year at Stanford, or Mitchell when you just took Suggs at #5 would've been much more of a reach.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#688 » by basketballRob » Tue May 24, 2022 11:59 pm

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Post#689 » by RichCollab » Wed May 25, 2022 12:00 am

Jabari and his shot! Stills my soul every time.
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#690 » by Black and Blue » Wed May 25, 2022 12:20 am

Just got tickets for the NBA draft in Brooklyn. If you see a 6'5" guy wearing a big goofy Stuff the Magic Dragon hat and retro Penny Hardaway jersey, that's me.

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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#691 » by dsg2021 » Wed May 25, 2022 12:27 am

I am just not watching enough game tape on these guys this year. I have all the faith in our WeHam FO though.
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Post#692 » by RookieStar » Wed May 25, 2022 12:50 am

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RookieStar wrote:Wow all these experts, draft gurus and etc already know who we will pick? Really? Where our FO is more secretive than Area 51?

Which of them predicted we reach for Franz last draft?


I really don't think Franz at 8 was much of a reach, if at all. Taking a raw Ziaire, who had a pretty ho-hum year at Stanford, or Mitchell when you just took Suggs at #5 would've been much more of a reach.


My point was... who predicted Franz for us out of all the so-called experts and insiders who supposedly know who we are picking even before the process begins?
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#693 » by basketballRob » Wed May 25, 2022 1:26 am

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dc wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Wow all these experts, draft gurus and etc already know who we will pick? Really? Where our FO is more secretive than Area 51?

Which of them predicted we reach for Franz last draft?


I really don't think Franz at 8 was much of a reach, if at all. Taking a raw Ziaire, who had a pretty ho-hum year at Stanford, or Mitchell when you just took Suggs at #5 would've been much more of a reach.


My point was... who predicted Franz for us out of all the so-called experts and insiders who supposedly know who we are picking even before the process begins?
I remember Knightbro and a few posters saying we would pick him 8th. Everyone thought Sacramento the pick behind us gave him a promise and a few posters here thought we gave him a promise.

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Post#694 » by MasterGMer » Wed May 25, 2022 1:34 am

OrlandoNed wrote:My take aways from Chet's shot chart:

Aside from at the rim and the top of the arc for 3 he provides very little from anywhere else. He hasn't shown to be a prolific outside shooter given how little he shoots from 3 in college. I think defenses will just give him the 3 and let him try to get into the paint. I don't see him being successful often while attacking the paint. He's not gonna outmuscle and bully his way in due to his lack of strength and I doubt anyone matched against him will be outsped by him either. Also from a scouting video I've seen, he often gets stripped of the ball when he drives because of his high dribble (due to just being tall) and weak arms.

TLDR: Infrequently shoots from 3 from a single spot, shown no midrange, thrives in paint against non-NBA quality defenders where his mediocre athleticism is enough to succeed.


It was because of his coach. He didn't ISO alot in college. But he has the skill to do so and we are gonna see a lot of ISO on the elbow. That is his skill.

To me, he can create his own shots that way. And he has a much higher ceiling than Jabari
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Re: Who do you want us to take at #1? 

Post#695 » by RookieStar » Wed May 25, 2022 1:38 am

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dc wrote:
I really don't think Franz at 8 was much of a reach, if at all. Taking a raw Ziaire, who had a pretty ho-hum year at Stanford, or Mitchell when you just took Suggs at #5 would've been much more of a reach.


My point was... who predicted Franz for us out of all the so-called experts and insiders who supposedly know who we are picking even before the process begins?
I remember Knightbro and a few posters saying we would pick him 8th. Everyone thought Sacramento the pick behind us gave him a promise and a few posters here thought we gave him a promise.

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I remember that Franz mysteriously shut down workouts and etc. It lead to the assumption rhat he had a higher promise than his predicted spot late lotto ( 10-14). It was also widely assumed that it was SAC that made that promise. Yeah i seem to recall there were wild takes that it was us that made that promise but nothing concrete.
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Post#696 » by swarlesbarkley » Wed May 25, 2022 1:40 am

I'm honestly good with any of the top 4 guys. I'd prefer Paolo just because I think our team would be more exciting but Jabari, Chet, and Jaden would all be great additions to the team. I wish we were sitting at #2 or #3, though, because whoever we pick will have #1 pick pressure and I'm not sure any of them deserve that pressure.

Maybe we can pull off a trade with Houston somehow.
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Post#697 » by RookieStar » Wed May 25, 2022 2:18 am

I just want the workouts for the top.picks to start so we all can have a better and more informed choice..
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Post#698 » by The-Stallion70 » Wed May 25, 2022 2:34 am

I just watched a full Auburn game on YouTube and I think I'm feeling better about Smith as the pick now. He is really active on the court and is very quick going after rebounds and moves his feet extremely well on defense.

Now that I'm watching this GSW-DAL game, I think Smith reminds me of Wiggins in terms of his ability to cover ground and overall activity level. Now I think Wiggins has more pure explosion vertically but of course Smith is taller.
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Post#699 » by locomagicfan » Wed May 25, 2022 3:57 am

The year is 2027... does anybody else see Channing Frye 2.0 from Jabari Smith or just me?
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Post#700 » by dc » Wed May 25, 2022 4:24 am

locomagicfan wrote:The year is 2027... does anybody else see Channing Frye 2.0 from Jabari Smith or just me?


2 different things. Frye was always a C and wasn't much of a shooter until several years into his NBA career. He developed the shot and became a stretch 5.

And he was strictly a spot up shooter. He was only ever going to shoot when someone passed him the ball and he was wide open. He was used as a threat to draw the opposing C away from the basket. He was never a guy who was going to create his own shot.

Jabari is a forward who is closer to a wing than a C. He can shoot the ball off the dribble and make shots right in front of his defender when he isn't wide open. He's a totally different category of a shooter than Frye, who was only going to shoot when someone else created a wide open shot for him.

You'd basically be drafting Jabari Smith #1 overall to hit shots right in people's faces the way you see Durant and Tatum do in the playoffs. I'm not saying he's definitely going to be that level of player, but that's the ideal scenario and that type of shotmaking is what you'd want to see from him.
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