Skin wrote:Bensational wrote:Skin wrote:We've collected a lot of very good assets, but since we weren't blessed by the lottery gods to land a bonafide star, we need to go to Plan B... Consolidate.
We need to go all in and get a single star who is locked in for more than 1 more season.
Then with our cap space get another star to join him.
The rest is filler.
Otherwise, we'll be tinkering around in mediocrity for a very long time.
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Idea: Jimmy Butler & Hassan Whiteside
Trade - Payton, Hezonja, Vucevic, #11 for Butler, Portis.
FA - Attract Whiteside with addition of Butler.
PG Oladipo
SG Butler
SF Gordon
PF Portis
C Whiteside
I like that you think outside the box and like to push the envelope with your ideas, but I'm sorry man, that trade makes me want to projectile vomit. All 4 of those assets for Butler?
Plus, it's way too early to bail on Elf and Hezonja. Even in the event that Skiles isn't able to get any kind of improvement out of them, I think you trust that they still have the capability and you look to change coaches in a year or two before you move them out.
Also, Kanter is making an amazing case for why Vuc should stick around and how he should be used going forwards. We just need to get appropriate talent to play in front of him.
But I understand that Vuc is probably our most attractive trade piece right now.
When I come up with trade ideas, I try to lean on it heavily favoring the other team(s). Been posting in the Trade and Transactions forum long enough to know that our assets aren't as great as our fans like to think.
If you don't think about the trade and you only think about the team that is left over and the options that we will still have, what do you think of the end result?
Please consider that we will still have enough cap space to go after another max player. Since the outgoing salary matches the incoming salary in that trade, we are not ruining our summer's cap space significantly. Think that could attract Durant? Or others? We'll can still go over the cap to bring back Fournier and Dedmon. We have 2 2nd round picks for depth.
Yeah, I can respect having to overpay a bit to get a player you want. Butler isn't that guy for me, but I think it's justifiable that people would want to make a strong push for him.
The end result of that team has a lot of questions for me. There's a real lack of legit perimeter threats with where those players currently are. Maybe Gordon and Dipo continue to improve their accuracy from there? But I'd probably wait until they had done so consistently before locking into that build.
I also feel like a lot of our assets could benefit from a winning season and playoff exposure to boost their value around the league, so selling now would really just be selling low in my eyes.
I think a cheap signing of Mahinmi to play starting C could give us an OKC style front court straight away, and I genuinely think we were onto something special with Vuc off the bench.
I think a Payton/Mahinmi tandem will rejuvenate Elf's game. And I think Durant will be looking for a 'team' to join this summer. I think he's sick of playing the two man game, and rumours are he is drawn to Golden State because of that shared ball appeal. Elf is a pure point who will distribute, so that's a draw. Oladipo, Fournier, Vuc, Gordon and Hezonja have all shown they've got strong passing abilities, even if they don't use those skills as much as they should. With a true #1 guy, I think that will help to put the rest of the team in their place and maybe level the equality amongst each other's eyes.
I'm not really sure. I'm just riffing here. Haven't thought this through completely, so I could be way off.
