When is Isaac Returning? Ruled out for the entire 2021-2022 season

[CZ Eddie]

There are basically six weeks left in this season.
After such a long absence, he'd need two weeks of non-contact practice.
And another two weeks of full-contact practice.
Leaving just two weeks of game play.

If he truly isn't practicing with the team yet, then I don't see him coming back this year.

Fultz on the other hand... I'd be surprised if he doesn't play in our first game after the all star break.

[basketballRob]

I could be wrong on this but I think the contract is fully guaranteed the first 2 years, and the injury Clause allows them to void years 3 and 4 if they waive him before year 3.

No, it just enables them to pay him a lower rate.

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[LDNMagic90]

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Same Wendell same.

[Magic_Kingdom]

I think it’s a given he’s not coming back this season. Not sure it’s sunk in with everyone yet how incredible that actually is— missing 2 consecutive complete seasons after only playing 34 games in his last season.

[basketballRob]

I think it’s a given he’s not coming back this season. Not sure it’s sunk in with everyone yet how incredible that actually is— missing 2 consecutive complete seasons after only playing 34 games in his last season.

Are you saying he's going to miss next season to make 2 whole seasons? I'm confused.

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[tiderulz]

I think it’s a given he’s not coming back this season. Not sure it’s sunk in with everyone yet how incredible that actually is— missing 2 consecutive complete seasons after only playing 34 games in his last season.

Are you saying he's going to miss next season to make 2 whole seasons? I'm confused.

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he missed all of 2020-2021 and now will likely miss 2021-2022, thats 2 whole seasons. I honestly dont think he will ever play significant minutes again.

[pepe1991]

Isaac had hyperexstended knee injury at January first, 2020 after just 2 min. Orignal prognoses 4 to 8 weeks. He was out for esencially end of a season. But it was COV lockdown so season continued in August. After playing 16 min in first game in bubble he torn ACL in second game after 14 min.
We didn't see him since.

So whole 2020-21 he was out, and it looks like whole 2021-22 as well. In real time, he played 30 min of nba in last 25 months.

[PrimeThyme]

he missed all of 2020-2021 and now will likely miss 2021-2022, thats 2 whole seasons. I honestly dont think he will ever play significant minutes again.

I think Porzingis is a pretty good example of this and what we may have to expect from Isaac going forward.

Isaac's not quite Porzingis's height but in general big men who suffer knee injuries like this are never the same. Porzingis will be lucky to ever play more than 60 games in his career again with the lingering knee issues from his ACL tear. Dallas knew it and basically gave him away after giving up assets and signing him to a max deal while injured.

Porzingis still flashes and puts up respectable numbers when he plays, but even despite only playing 29 mpg this year the knee still gave him issues and he will probably finish the season with only 34 games played. I can't see him ever averaging more than 25 mpg for the rest of his career.

[zaymon]

he missed all of 2020-2021 and now will likely miss 2021-2022, thats 2 whole seasons. I honestly dont think he will ever play significant minutes again.

I think Porzingis is a pretty good example of this and what we may have to expect from Isaac going forward.

Isaac's not quite Porzingis's height but in general big men who suffer knee injuries like this are never the same. Porzingis will be lucky to ever play more than 60 games in his career again with the lingering knee issues from his ACL tear. Dallas knew it and basically gave him away after giving up assets and signing him to a max deal while injured.

Porzingis still flashes and puts up respectable numbers when he plays, but even despite only playing 29 mpg this year the knee still gave him issues and he will probably finish the season with only 34 games played. I can't see him ever averaging more than 25 mpg for the rest of his career.

Which recent nba big man was never the same after acl tear ? Even Porzingis looked good this year when healthy. Porzingis is 7'3 and Isaac is 6'10 so i dont know if thats a good comparison. Every case is different.

[tiderulz]

he missed all of 2020-2021 and now will likely miss 2021-2022, thats 2 whole seasons. I honestly dont think he will ever play significant minutes again.

I think Porzingis is a pretty good example of this and what we may have to expect from Isaac going forward.

Isaac's not quite Porzingis's height but in general big men who suffer knee injuries like this are never the same. Porzingis will be lucky to ever play more than 60 games in his career again with the lingering knee issues from his ACL tear. Dallas knew it and basically gave him away after giving up assets and signing him to a max deal while injured.

Porzingis still flashes and puts up respectable numbers when he plays, but even despite only playing 29 mpg this year the knee still gave him issues and he will probably finish the season with only 34 games played. I can't see him ever averaging more than 25 mpg for the rest of his career.

Which recent nba big man was never the same after acl tear ? Even Porzingis looked good this year when healthy. Porzingis is 7'3 and Isaac is 6'10 so i dont know if thats a good comparison. Every case is different.

by reported accounts, Isaac is 7' now. and even Zingis wasnt out 2 full years. Who wasnt the same? Jabari Parker. There is no reason Isaac should be out this long unless its a more serious injury. I just dont think he will ever be back playing major minutes, if back at all

[pepe1991]

Why do we need to even talk how 20 months rehab isn't normal?
Galinari opted NOT to have surgery after ACL tear and it didn't heal well, so he had to go under knife AND YET RETURNED AFTER 20 MONTHS OF INJURY.

It's so damn obvious that he had setback and i don't really understand why any saine, normal person with funcional brain needs Weltman to go out in public and say it so they can finally wrap their heads around it. Just like that time CJ Watson had quad or calf or whatever was the issue, and he retired from nba next. Ofc there was no need from Hennigan to go out in public and say that he had major setback, him not returning was obvious indicator.

[zaymon]

I think Porzingis is a pretty good example of this and what we may have to expect from Isaac going forward.

Isaac's not quite Porzingis's height but in general big men who suffer knee injuries like this are never the same. Porzingis will be lucky to ever play more than 60 games in his career again with the lingering knee issues from his ACL tear. Dallas knew it and basically gave him away after giving up assets and signing him to a max deal while injured.

Porzingis still flashes and puts up respectable numbers when he plays, but even despite only playing 29 mpg this year the knee still gave him issues and he will probably finish the season with only 34 games played. I can't see him ever averaging more than 25 mpg for the rest of his career.

Which recent nba big man was never the same after acl tear ? Even Porzingis looked good this year when healthy. Porzingis is 7'3 and Isaac is 6'10 so i dont know if thats a good comparison. Every case is different.

by reported accounts, Isaac is 7' now. and even Zingis wasnt out 2 full years. Who wasnt the same? Jabari Parker. There is no reason Isaac should be out this long unless its a more serious injury. I just dont think he will ever be back playing major minutes, if back at all

Parker was never that good in the nba. He is still capable of playing even after two acl injuries. His game is also more dependent on athletecism than Isaac's.
What is the benefit of Isaac returning for more than few games this season ? I would say there is no benefit for us. If there is no benefit why bring him back earlier ? I would even say that his return could be a negative thing becouse he would take minutes from other players. Weltman would be a moron to play him for more than few games.

[tiderulz]

Which recent nba big man was never the same after acl tear ? Even Porzingis looked good this year when healthy. Porzingis is 7'3 and Isaac is 6'10 so i dont know if thats a good comparison. Every case is different.

by reported accounts, Isaac is 7' now. and even Zingis wasnt out 2 full years. Who wasnt the same? Jabari Parker. There is no reason Isaac should be out this long unless its a more serious injury. I just dont think he will ever be back playing major minutes, if back at all

Parker was never that good in the nba. He is still capable of playing even after two acl injuries. His game is also more dependent on athletecism than Isaac's.
What is the benefit of Isaac returning for more than few games this season ? I would say there is no benefit for us. If there is no benefit why bring him back earlier ? I would even say that his return could be a negative thing becouse he would take minutes from other players. Weltman would be a moron to play him for more than few games.

are you really trying to say Isaac's game isnt dependent on athleticism? its not his shooting and play making. His game is defense which is absolutely reliant on his athleticism.

you believe what you want, i say he is more seriously injured

[Ducklett]

Just pretend like he doesn't exist! That way if he ever does play, it is like found money!

[Knightro]

Why do we need to even talk how 20 months rehab isn't normal?
Galinari opted NOT to have surgery after ACL tear and it didn't heal well, so he had to go under knife AND YET RETURNED AFTER 20 MONTHS OF INJURY.

It's so damn obvious that he had setback and i don't really understand why any saine, normal person with funcional brain needs Weltman to go out in public and say it so they can finally wrap their heads around it. Just like that time CJ Watson had quad or calf or whatever was the issue, and he retired from nba next. Ofc there was no need from Hennigan to go out in public and say that he had major setback, him not returning was obvious indicator.

It's perplexing.

If he had a setback, he had a setback. Things happen. Rehab doesn't always go exactly as planned.

But by the front office refusing to confirm the setback, they're unwittingly making themselves look so foolish because now it looks like they were perfectly content to give a guy 4/70 who was going to miss two full seasons.

And no matter how anyone wants to try and defend that, there's no justification for that decision if they knew he was going to miss that much time.

[zaymon]

by reported accounts, Isaac is 7' now. and even Zingis wasnt out 2 full years. Who wasnt the same? Jabari Parker. There is no reason Isaac should be out this long unless its a more serious injury. I just dont think he will ever be back playing major minutes, if back at all

Parker was never that good in the nba. He is still capable of playing even after two acl injuries. His game is also more dependent on athletecism than Isaac's.
What is the benefit of Isaac returning for more than few games this season ? I would say there is no benefit for us. If there is no benefit why bring him back earlier ? I would even say that his return could be a negative thing becouse he would take minutes from other players. Weltman would be a moron to play him for more than few games.

are you really trying to say Isaac's game isnt dependent on athleticism? its not his shooting and play making. His game is defense which is absolutely reliant on his athleticism.

you believe what you want, i say he is more seriously injured

He is on the practice court playing and Suggs said he looked great. If you feel better thinking he is seriously injured go for it i prefer more positive attitude.
You dont need to jump to play solid defense. Those dunks are eurosteps are really taxing.

[AaronB]

Who is this "Isaac" everyone keeps talking about?

Isaac Newton
Isaac Asimov
Isaac Hayes

[AaronB]

Who is this "Isaac" everyone keeps talking about?

Isaac Newton
Isaac Asimov
Isaac Hayes

I just looked up "Famous Isaacs" and noticed I hit 3 of the top 4 right off the top of my head.

Oddly, number 49 was Isaac Austin.

I liked Isaac Austin and all, but if he comes in at 49, "Isaac" is a name without a lot of clout in history.

I also looked at the best centers in Magic history and Isaac Austin came in at #33, right behind Greg Kite.

[Knightro]

by reported accounts, Isaac is 7' now. and even Zingis wasnt out 2 full years. Who wasnt the same? Jabari Parker. There is no reason Isaac should be out this long unless its a more serious injury. I just dont think he will ever be back playing major minutes, if back at all

Parker actually came back from the first ACL tear pretty well.

His numbers from 16-17 were trending in the right direction before he blew that knee out for the 2nd time.

20-6-3 on .490/.360/.743 with a 2.1 OBPM.

Where the injuries really screwed Parker was defensively. He already wasn't good on that end naturally, but the two knee injuries just destroyed any chance of him being a good defender because his lateral movement skills went away for good.

[Ducklett]

If he sits out too much time, doesn't his contract get changed? I feel like there was all kinds of injury exceptions in his contract.