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The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic

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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#701 » by RookieStar » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:24 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Looks like no Chet interview. The same person that posted both pics of Chet is saying Chet has left Orlando.

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So strange that we got a Jabari interview but no Chet interview.


Well... not to beat a dead horse BUT we got guys who didn't have media interviews but those who did... we never picked them.

Will this break the trend?

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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#702 » by CarraT » Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:22 am

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tiderulz wrote:he doesnt do it alone though. he has had some of the best supporting casts.


Well, who did?

well, this was based on the statement "all he does is win Championships"

otherwise you could say the same thing about Robert Horry, as he has 7.


You really don’t get the sarcasms?
Ok, then just add „… and MVPs“ to the quote. Not that much player you can say that about then.
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#703 » by The-Stallion70 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:19 am

I think Chet is very talented and has all the skills, height, length and instincts to be a great center. But he is not just skinny, he is unusually skinny and I question he will be able to put on enough muscle to live up to a the billing of a top 3 pick. To me, he will be a player who is very good when he plays but he just simply will be out alot because of injuries, not unlike Jabari Parker. I don't believe he will be effective battling in the NBA paint at 195 pounds. A few good shoves from a Steven Adams, Robert Williams, Joel Embiid, Bam Adebayo will be enough to take him out of the picture when battling for rebounds and he may also get hurt.

Jabari, Paolo, trade down for Murray, Ivey, Griffin, Mathurin are the moves to be made on the 23rd for me.
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#704 » by CarraT » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:41 am

The-Stallion70 wrote:I think Chet is very talented and has all the skills, height, length and instincts to be a great center. But he is not just skinny, he is unusually skinny and I question he will be able to put on enough muscle to live up to a the billing of a top 3 pick. To me, he will be a player who is very good when he plays but he just simply will be out alot because of injuries, not unlike Jabari Parker. I don't believe he will be effective battling in the NBA paint at 195 pounds. A few good shoves from a Steven Adams, Robert Williams, Joel Embiid, Bam Adebayo will be enough to take him out of the picture when battling for rebounds and he may also get hurt.

Jabari, Paolo, trade down for Murray, Ivey, Griffin, Mathurin are the moves to be made on the 23rd for me.


That’s why he will play PF and not C. Maybe later in his career that will change. But as of now, Wendel Carter will be C and both fit each other very well.
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#705 » by ucfmay2000 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:49 am

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/southeast-draft-notes-holmgren-hornets-williams-oneal.html#ref=home.
By reading this, I don’t know if Chet conducted any workout at all.
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#706 » by RookieStar » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:58 am

ucfmay2000 wrote:https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/southeast-draft-notes-holmgren-hornets-williams-oneal.html#ref=home.
By reading this, I don’t know if Chet conducted any workout at all.


I read it as after the physical part ( workouts, medicals ) was done, they continued to "wine and dine" him afterwards. Thus, it took 2 days to conclude.

Don't let rob read this though lol
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#707 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:15 am

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ucfmay2000 wrote:https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/06/southeast-draft-notes-holmgren-hornets-williams-oneal.html#ref=home.
By reading this, I don’t know if Chet conducted any workout at all.


I read it as after the physical part ( workouts, medicals ) was done, they continued to "wine and dine" him afterwards. Thus, it took 2 days to conclude.

Don't let rob read this though lol
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#708 » by Skin » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:03 am

I'll be ok with Chet or Jabari. Do not want Paolo.
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Post#709 » by thelead » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:12 am

Skin wrote:I'll be ok with Chet or Jabari. Do not want Paolo.

I 'feel' the same way but I thought the same way about wanting Suggs over Barnes... we don't have access to all the info and don't see the private workouts. I'm not going to be mad on draft night regardless of who we pick unless it's a reach and I think we should have traded down to grab additional assets. I'll reserve judgement until 15-20 games into the season to even start forming a grade for the pick.
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#710 » by pepe1991 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:58 am

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Skin wrote:I'll be ok with Chet or Jabari. Do not want Paolo.

I 'feel' the same way but I thought the same way about wanting Suggs over Barnes... we don't have access to all the info and don't see the private workouts. I'm not going to be mad on draft night regardless of who we pick unless it's a reach and I think we should have traded down to grab additional assets. I'll reserve judgement until 15-20 games into the season to even start forming a grade for the pick.


Barnes vs Suggs thing was simple for Magic, whoever falls Magic draft.

Than story/ rumor popped up on reddit

Basically, the man couldn’t shoot. He had the worst shooting drill out of all 1-on-0 workouts (they worked out about 10, including Bouknight who said he didn’t work out with us for some reason?? Bouknight had the best shooting drill of all by far).

Just was totally flat. It was so bad and he was so worked up about it that they called the workout short and told him to come back the next day, even though they already had another guy coming in the next day (Jalen Johnson).

That basically never happens. Didn’t do great on the second chance either.

Scottie killed it. Beginning to end. Great workout, charmed them with his personality, shot the leather off the ball. They just loved him.

I didn’t want to say anything about the bad workout bc I didn’t want that to get out, in case the FO was trying to trade the pick.


In retrospective, this is probably execlly what happend, since we saw Jalen Suggs play in nba, and one thing was very clear - he can't shoot at all.

We, as fans, simply don't have insight in things like this. Suggs was hidden at college and didn't play pick&roll. People, me included thought it's more offensive scheme than his inability.
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#711 » by Bensational » Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:09 am

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Skin wrote:I'll be ok with Chet or Jabari. Do not want Paolo.

I 'feel' the same way but I thought the same way about wanting Suggs over Barnes... we don't have access to all the info and don't see the private workouts. I'm not going to be mad on draft night regardless of who we pick unless it's a reach and I think we should have traded down to grab additional assets. I'll reserve judgement until 15-20 games into the season to even start forming a grade for the pick.


My feels exactly. I don’t have any strong favourites so I’m happy with all. Keegan Murray is my Giddey for this year, so if we made a trade down for him and more I’d be pretty excited. But I’ll be excited for any of Chet, Jabari or Paolo.
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#712 » by basketballRob » Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:01 pm

Suggs posted this on his IG. Chet reposted it.

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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#713 » by axl_c_cool » Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:15 pm

tiderulz wrote:
drsd wrote:
tiderulz wrote:he doesnt do it alone though. he has had some of the best supporting casts.


Wiggins and Poole were outstanding. And Green made his jumpers.

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and prime Klay and Green, and then prime Klay and Green and KD. so yes, Curry has won championships, but he didnt do it alone or completely carry GSW. great player, probably top-20 all time when its all said and done and i wouldnt fight anyone if they pushed for him to be ranked higher. but he didnt win any of his titles alone.
No player has won a title alone. Curry has changed basketball, he's on a short list with Wilt, Jordan, Shaq, and a few others. By even being on the court he's a massive influence on how his and other teams play. When it's all said and done, he'll be a top 10 player

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Post#714 » by davey_wavy » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:32 pm

Reports say Chet won't give his medicals to OKC. He's forcing his way here, and WeHam is all about it. Jabari's underwhelming workout made it easier to choose anyways.

Fultz/Anthony
Suggs/Harris
Franz/FA/ 2nd Rounder
Holmgren/Issac/FA
WCJ/ Moe/FA

Ross Gone
RJ Gone
Mo Gone
Lopez Gone

Schofield, Cannady, and Izzy don't count

That's your line up folks
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Post#715 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:36 pm

davey_wavy wrote:Reports say Chet won't give his medicals to OKC. He's forcing his way here, and WeHam is all about it. Jabari's underwhelming workout made it easier to choose anyways.

Fultz
Suggs
Franz
Holmgren
WCJ

That's your line up folks
Do you have any links to this info?

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Post#716 » by davey_wavy » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:42 pm

basketballRob wrote:
davey_wavy wrote:Reports say Chet won't give his medicals to OKC. He's forcing his way here, and WeHam is all about it. Jabari's underwhelming workout made it easier to choose anyways.

Fultz
Suggs
Franz
Holmgren
WCJ

That's your line up folks
Do you have any links to this info?

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blazersedge.com/platform/amp/2022/6/17/23173312/chet-holmgren-portland-trail-blazers-nba-draft-withhold-medical-info

He did however do medicals with Orlando. Welcome home Chet
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#717 » by RookieStar » Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:50 pm

davey_wavy wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
davey_wavy wrote:Reports say Chet won't give his medicals to OKC. He's forcing his way here, and WeHam is all about it. Jabari's underwhelming workout made it easier to choose anyways.

Fultz
Suggs
Franz
Holmgren
WCJ

That's your line up folks
Do you have any links to this info?

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blazersedge.com/platform/amp/2022/6/17/23173312/chet-holmgren-portland-trail-blazers-nba-draft-withhold-medical-info

He did however do medicals with Orlando. Welcome home Chet


ummmm.. there's a lot of(or lack of to be exact) info about that link. However, I gott ask the biggest one, where is the "underwhelming" workout with us?
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Post#718 » by davey_wavy » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:40 pm

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basketballRob wrote:Do you have any links to this info?

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.blazersedge.com/platform/amp/2022/6/17/23173312/chet-holmgren-portland-trail-blazers-nba-draft-withhold-medical-info

He did however do medicals with Orlando. Welcome home Chet


ummmm.. there's a lot of(or lack of to be exact) info about that link. However, I gott ask the biggest one, where is the "underwhelming" workout with us?


Just a common sense assessment based on the elongated extension of the workout. Look, the guy ain't giving out his medicals, even to #2, his buddy buddy plays with us, and for sheets and giggles he's on social media reposting footage of him and Suggs on the court together. Sometimes in life, not everything is a smokescreen, a distraction, mind trickery, etc. Sometimes it just is what it is, no games, and that's what you have here. We are drafting Chet- it's obvious
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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#719 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:55 pm

davey_wavy wrote:
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ummmm.. there's a lot of(or lack of to be exact) info about that link. However, I gott ask the biggest one, where is the "underwhelming" workout with us?


Just a common sense assessment based on the elongated extension of the workout. Look, the guy ain't giving out his medicals, even to #2, his buddy buddy plays with us, and for sheets and giggles he's on social media reposting footage of him and Suggs on the court together. Sometimes in life, not everything is a smokescreen, a distraction, mind trickery, etc. Sometimes it just is what it is, no games, and that's what you have here. We are drafting Chet- it's obvious
Do you think Mosely is laughing at him or with him?

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Re: The case of Chet Holmgren for the Magic 

Post#720 » by RookieStar » Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:59 pm

davey_wavy wrote:
RookieStar wrote:


ummmm.. there's a lot of(or lack of to be exact) info about that link. However, I gott ask the biggest one, where is the "underwhelming" workout with us?


Just a common sense assessment based on the elongated extension of the workout. Look, the guy ain't giving out his medicals, even to #2, his buddy buddy plays with us, and for sheets and giggles he's on social media reposting footage of him and Suggs on the court together. Sometimes in life, not everything is a smokescreen, a distraction, mind trickery, etc. Sometimes it just is what it is, no games, and that's what you have here. We are drafting Chet- it's obvious


Uhhh.... ok????? I mean i would prefer something more with substance but i gotta keep up with the times i guess...

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