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2025 NBA Draft

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#701 » by RookieStar » Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:54 pm

Who is the nearest Isaac clone in the draft?

A 6'10 barefoot longboi that can lock anyone from guards to PFs
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Post#702 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:15 pm

RookieStar wrote:Who is the nearest Isaac clone in the draft?

A 6'10 barefoot longboi that can lock anyone from guards to PFs
Sorber.

I think it's foolish for us to think the Magic won't take Danny Wolf. We have 2 picks in the range that he's projected, and he played at Michigan.

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Post#703 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:27 pm

I'd be okay with Mcneely and Wolf, too. Wolf was the de facto PG for Michigan this season, and I like a big that can do it all. Kind of like Hartenstein lite.

Mcneely is a shooter who had a poor shooting season. He can handle the ball. He's like Franz lite.

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Post#704 » by Idiosyncratic » Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:48 pm

eyriq wrote:
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eyriq wrote:If McNeeley falls, pick him. If not, pick Clayton.

If Payton and McNeeley are gone by our pick, cry.
Falls to what? He's trending down in recent mocks

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McNeeley would be a no from me. Even outside of the fit thing I am just not that high on him.

I'm not going to say taking him 16 or 24 or whatever is terrible value for him in a vacuum, but to me he is a project. And a project 3 where we already have Franz, AB and TDS who can play there just feels like it will end up being a waste. That is the kind of player I would much rather just trade the pick than take.

And I could be wrong, maybe he becomes Trey Murphy lite or something, but combination of me just not liking the tape or numbers plus no clear avenue to minutes would make me really apprehensive about taking him.

I think the draft for me is really simplified to take a guard : My order of preference of guards I think we will have a fighter's chance of getting -
Jase/Clayton/Kasparas/Traore/Philon/De Larrea/Fland

And take a big - (someone that can play 4 or 5 or both)
Sorber/Yaxel/Newell/Broome/Bryant/Markovic/Wolf

If you end up with Clayton/Sorber that is a massive win of a draft IMO.

And there's guys on my list where I would prefer a trade than to have them. But if the option was Sexton at 5/90 or something or Clayton at 4/21 plus a vet FA signing like Tyus for 1/10 or something I am picking the Clayton option even though we would be slightly worse next year, future value is just too much better for me. Depends player to player though.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#705 » by Idiosyncratic » Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:50 pm

RookieStar wrote:Who is the nearest Isaac clone in the draft?

A 6'10 barefoot longboi that can lock anyone from guards to PFs


Jojo Tugler IMO. 6'8 but the wingspan is 7'6 I think? Even less offensive game than Isaac, also might not come out.
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Post#706 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:20 pm

Sorber's frame looks exactly like Jaren Jackson. He even has the 7'6" wingspan. He might be a late riser into the lottery.

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Post#707 » by Idiosyncratic » Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:29 pm

basketballRob wrote:Sorber's frame looks exactly like Jaren Jackson. He even has the 7'6" wingspan.

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3.5 stocks a game as a freshman. 72% from the line, signs of having a nice mid range shot, potential to add a respectable 3. Has solid post moves and adept with ball fakes. Huge basketball IQ and instincts.

His height and athleticism measurements at the combine will probably be a big deal for his stock. Looks slow at times, but I mean he's a center. For me he is my top center in the draft, he should be a lotto pick and I would take him at 16 all day.
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Post#708 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:33 pm

Idiosyncratic wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Sorber's frame looks exactly like Jaren Jackson. He even has the 7'6" wingspan.

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3.5 stocks a game as a freshman. 72% from the line, signs of having a nice mid range shot, potential to add a respectable 3. Has solid post moves and adept with ball fakes. Huge basketball IQ and instincts.

His height and athleticism measurements at the combine will probably be a big deal for his stock. Looks slow at times, but I mean he's a center. For me he is my top center in the draft, he should be a lotto pick and I would take him at 16 all day.
Yeah, he's got too much upside to pass on. I'll be surprised if he's there at 16.

I know the Hoyas coach is upset. I'm paraphrasing, but he said that they could win a championship next season with Sorber, and he would be a lottery pick.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#709 » by RookieStar » Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:09 am

Idiosyncratic wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Who is the nearest Isaac clone in the draft?

A 6'10 barefoot longboi that can lock anyone from guards to PFs


Jojo Tugler IMO. 6'8 but the wingspan is 7'6 I think? Even less offensive game than Isaac, also might not come out.


Then he isnt an Isaac clone. One of the way JI is so effective is because he is a 7footer and can move like that. Opposing players cant see over him.
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Post#710 » by basketballRob » Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:22 am

This guy reminds me of Mike Schmitz

https://youtu.be/XrHBEyfPqPA?si=-3MGTNkfKS2QnlD5

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Post#711 » by ogmagicfan » Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:36 am

This draft is simply too deep at the PG & Center position to justify drafting a forward, it's about as deep as it gets at these positions for a draft
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#712 » by ogmagicfan » Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:43 am

Idiosyncratic wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Sorber's frame looks exactly like Jaren Jackson. He even has the 7'6" wingspan.

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3.5 stocks a game as a freshman. 72% from the line, signs of having a nice mid range shot, potential to add a respectable 3. Has solid post moves and adept with ball fakes. Huge basketball IQ and instincts.

His height and athleticism measurements at the combine will probably be a big deal for his stock. Looks slow at times, but I mean he's a center. For me he is my top center in the draft, he should be a lotto pick and I would take him at 16 all day.


I'd be pretty surprised if he does the combine considering he's coming off a foot injury.

As long as we assess that the foot injury is something he can come back 100% on and not something that'll be a continuing problem, I'm all on board to get him at 16.
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Post#713 » by basketballRob » Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:02 am

ogmagicfan wrote:
Idiosyncratic wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Sorber's frame looks exactly like Jaren Jackson. He even has the 7'6" wingspan.

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3.5 stocks a game as a freshman. 72% from the line, signs of having a nice mid range shot, potential to add a respectable 3. Has solid post moves and adept with ball fakes. Huge basketball IQ and instincts.

His height and athleticism measurements at the combine will probably be a big deal for his stock. Looks slow at times, but I mean he's a center. For me he is my top center in the draft, he should be a lotto pick and I would take him at 16 all day.


I'd be pretty surprised if he does the combine considering he's coming off a foot injury.

As long as we assess that the foot injury is something he can come back 100% on and not something that'll be a continuing problem, I'm all on board to get him at 16.
He had turf toe. I think most of the time, you can just sit out and fix it. Jimmy Butler had it in 2013. A bunch of other players have had it.

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Post#714 » by Idiosyncratic » Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:04 am

ogmagicfan wrote:
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basketballRob wrote:Sorber's frame looks exactly like Jaren Jackson. He even has the 7'6" wingspan.

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3.5 stocks a game as a freshman. 72% from the line, signs of having a nice mid range shot, potential to add a respectable 3. Has solid post moves and adept with ball fakes. Huge basketball IQ and instincts.

His height and athleticism measurements at the combine will probably be a big deal for his stock. Looks slow at times, but I mean he's a center. For me he is my top center in the draft, he should be a lotto pick and I would take him at 16 all day.


I'd be pretty surprised if he does the combine considering he's coming off a foot injury.

As long as we assess that the foot injury is something he can come back 100% on and not something that'll be a continuing problem, I'm all on board to get him at 16.


Yeah you are right, forgot he had surgery. Not sure the timetable or if he will be able to workout at all, but maybe will still get height measurements and standing reach etc.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#715 » by basketballRob » Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:09 am

Sorber had turf toe. That's a sprain of your big toe. Cole Anthony has been dealing with the same thing.

The surgery may help us get a lottery pick in the middle of the draft.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#716 » by eyriq » Fri Apr 11, 2025 2:28 am

Idiosyncratic wrote:
eyriq wrote:
KillMonger wrote:Falls to what? He's trending down in recent mocks

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Do we like McNeeley?


McNeeley would be a no from me. Even outside of the fit thing I am just not that high on him.

I'm not going to say taking him 16 or 24 or whatever is terrible value for him in a vacuum, but to me he is a project. And a project 3 where we already have Franz, AB and TDS who can play there just feels like it will end up being a waste. That is the kind of player I would much rather just trade the pick than take.

And I could be wrong, maybe he becomes Trey Murphy lite or something, but combination of me just not liking the tape or numbers plus no clear avenue to minutes would make me really apprehensive about taking him.

I think the draft for me is really simplified to take a guard : My order of preference of guards I think we will have a fighter's chance of getting -
Jase/Clayton/Kasparas/Traore/Philon/De Larrea/Fland

And take a big - (someone that can play 4 or 5 or both)
Sorber/Yaxel/Newell/Broome/Bryant/Markovic/Wolf

If you end up with Clayton/Sorber that is a massive win of a draft IMO.

And there's guys on my list where I would prefer a trade than to have them. But if the option was Sexton at 5/90 or something or Clayton at 4/21 plus a vet FA signing like Tyus for 1/10 or something I am picking the Clayton option even though we would be slightly worse next year, future value is just too much better for me. Depends player to player though.


I can dig it. His college year was not good. Statistically he comes out as the 80th player in this draft. He has had barely better season than Caleb Houstan did. The closest comp I find is Bryce McGowens who was drafted 40th lol. Looks like a good call to stay away.
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Post#717 » by KillMonger » Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:06 am

eyriq wrote:
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eyriq wrote:If McNeeley falls, pick him. If not, pick Clayton.

If Payton and McNeeley are gone by our pick, cry.
Falls to what? He's trending down in recent mocks

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he's not a bad pick in that range, he had a down shooting year but at mtverde he shot like 45% from 3 i believe.....he addresses the shooting issue but his range is hard to zone in on right now....
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Post#718 » by KillMonger » Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:45 am

thoughts on will riley?
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Post#719 » by Skybox » Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:06 pm

RookieStar wrote:Who is the nearest Isaac clone in the draft?

A 6'10 barefoot longboi that can lock anyone from guards to PFs


Checkout Collin Murray-Boyle from South Carolina…defends all over the lineup. Dawg.

…then we grab that other dawg named Collin from UTA and we’re getting there.
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Post#720 » by VFX » Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:16 pm

Idiosyncratic wrote:
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KillMonger wrote:Falls to what? He's trending down in recent mocks

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Do we like McNeeley?


McNeeley would be a no from me. Even outside of the fit thing I am just not that high on him.

I'm not going to say taking him 16 or 24 or whatever is terrible value for him in a vacuum, but to me he is a project. And a project 3 where we already have Franz, AB and TDS who can play there just feels like it will end up being a waste. That is the kind of player I would much rather just trade the pick than take.

And I could be wrong, maybe he becomes Trey Murphy lite or something, but combination of me just not liking the tape or numbers plus no clear avenue to minutes would make me really apprehensive about taking him.

I think the draft for me is really simplified to take a guard : My order of preference of guards I think we will have a fighter's chance of getting -
Jase/Clayton/Kasparas/Traore/Philon/De Larrea/Fland

And take a big - (someone that can play 4 or 5 or both)
Sorber/Yaxel/Newell/Broome/Bryant/Markovic/Wolf

If you end up with Clayton/Sorber that is a massive win of a draft IMO.

And there's guys on my list where I would prefer a trade than to have them. But if the option was Sexton at 5/90 or something or Clayton at 4/21 plus a vet FA signing like Tyus for 1/10 or something I am picking the Clayton option even though we would be slightly worse next year, future value is just too much better for me. Depends player to player though.


I’ll go one step further.

Players like Broome, Yaxel, Newell etc. (basically anyone that cannot play at NBA Center) won’t be getting minutes here.

This is to suggest Weltman is moving Isaac, which he won’t, and that Paolo isn’t playing 38 mpg. TDS also fills in there at points off the bench.

Carter should be moved, but if Orlando still has 3 Centers, then it makes it even less likely a guy like Sorber is drafted. Whose minutes is he taking? Paolo’s? Isaac’s? Goga? Moe? Carter?

All of this remains to be seen unless Weltman makes a trade for the first time in 4 seasons to make room for some rookie drafted late. Makes no sense.

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