2024-2025 NBA Playoffs Round 1, Game 3: (2) Boston Celtics at (7) Orlando Magic - 7pm ET

[Bensational]

One thing that REALLY gets overlooked in our complaints about how well our guys are generating looks/shots - they’re playing the 4th best defense in the league, and 2nd best offense. That’s a slog on both ends of the court. And the team STILL managed to pull out a win against competition that tough. They’re either punching above their weight or they are worthy of that class just underdeveloped.

[Rainwater]

Man maybe pepe does have something against Paolo lol..... "Dribbling aimlessly".... "Paolo failing to post up Pritchard" a bit gratuitous isn't it? You don't have to say it that way yet went out of your way to do so.....









just breaking your balls.... A little

Ya think? LOL

The anti-Paolo cliq are shifty but obvious

I have a good idea who they are but I always thought pepe as neutral almost sterile even........

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I just feel like everyone hates his style of play considering his high usage. And the fact he is not a great defender doesn’t help. For this reason, most people would rather consider Franz the face of the franchise even though everything is ran through Paolo. Hopefully with increased efficiency, better defense, and winning opinions on him will change.

[Skybox]

Ya think? LOL

The anti-Paolo cliq are shifty but obvious

I have a good idea who they are but I always thought pepe as neutral almost sterile even........

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I just feel like everyone hates his style of play considering his high usage. And the fact he is not a great defender doesn’t help. For this reason, most people would rather consider Franz the face of the franchise even though everything is ran through Paolo. Hopefully with increased efficiency, better defense, and winning opinions on him will change.

I don’t think “most” is remotely true. Franz looks to be an All+Star…Paolo, despite his flaws, is clearly the BOSS in ORL. Watch a national broadcast, they love Franz like they loved Pippen…that’s certainly not a knock, it’s fairly obvious, imo

[eyriq]

Man maybe pepe does have something against Paolo lol..... "Dribbling aimlessly".... "Paolo failing to post up Pritchard" a bit gratuitous isn't it? You don't have to say it that way yet went out of your way to do so.....









just breaking your balls.... A little

Ya think? LOL

The anti-Paolo cliq are shifty but obvious

There’s no anti-Paolo kliq.

He’s considered by some/most to be the best player on the team, he has an insane usage rate, and he’s about to sign a designed player maximum contract extension.

He's justifiably held, along with Franz, to a higher standard than everyone else on the roster.

There's a difference between constructive critique and targeted criticism. Some posters consistently highlight only Paolo’s flaws without recognizing his impact, growth, or the context he’s playing in. When criticism loses balance and nuance, it stops being about 'standards' and starts looking like an agenda — and that's why it feels like an 'anti-Paolo kliq' to many.

[Rainwater]

I have a good idea who they are but I always thought pepe as neutral almost sterile even........

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I just feel like everyone hates his style of play considering his high usage. And the fact he is not a great defender doesn’t help. For this reason, most people would rather consider Franz the face of the franchise even though everything is ran through Paolo. Hopefully with increased efficiency, better defense, and winning opinions on him will change.

I don’t think “most” is remotely true. Franz looks to be an All+Star…Paolo, despite his flaws, is clearly the BOSS in ORL. Watch a national broadcast, they love Franz like they loved Pippen…that’s certainly not a knock, it’s fairly obvious, imo

When I say “most” I was referring to the small minority who hate Paolo’s style of play on this board. There is just a small minority who are just skeptical. They will say he is inefficient and talk about his TS percentage, he takes too many middies, he dribbles too much, he doesn’t pass, he plays no defense. These are legit issues but I feel like it leads people to question him and disregard how good he is. A lot of it can be seen right after he returned from his injury and it took awhile for him to regain form.

[KillMonger]

Ya think? LOL

The anti-Paolo cliq are shifty but obvious

There’s no anti-Paolo kliq.

He’s considered by some/most to be the best player on the team, he has an insane usage rate, and he’s about to sign a designed player maximum contract extension.

He's justifiably held, along with Franz, to a higher standard than everyone else on the roster.

There's a difference between constructive critique and targeted criticism. Some posters consistently highlight only Paolo’s flaws without recognizing his impact, growth, or the context he’s playing in. When criticism loses balance and nuance, it stops being about 'standards' and starts looking like an agenda — and that's why it feels like an 'anti-Paolo kliq' to many.

pretty much how i feel, it's like every time he does something not so good or wrong, you see the usual suspects pointing it out....when he's playing well though somehow he doesn't get the same energy, most of those times they choose to say nothing....Me personally i learned that lesson long ago to try to avoid being man fans because at some point you get lost in the sauce to the point where it seems like you're rooting against your own team.....at that point why be a fan of the team....part of the reason why i respect he should not be named.....he wanted his guy, when we didn't select him he dipped out....totally respect that, didn't want to compromise himself

[fendilim]

So Jaylen Brown implied a fight might breakout soon… gonna be a fun game 4

[Last Guardian]

Man Celtics and their fans are soft as feathers. They fake injuries and fall at every moment of contact, then claim we are dirty and trying to injure. Meanwhile, many times they are fouling and we don't get the call. Can't make it up. They can go ahead and start a fight, based on the way they act they probably will not win that fight

[Driguez]

Man Celtics and their fans are soft as feathers. They fake injuries and fall at every moment of contact, then claim we are dirty and trying to injure. Meanwhile, many times they are fouling and we don't get the call. Can't make it up. They can go ahead and start a fight, based on the way they act they probably will not win that fight

Ditto on the Celtic softness, what don’t be physical on the playoffs? wtf lol Btw Jaylen isn’t starting anything.

[Bensational]

So Jaylen Brown implied a fight might breakout soon… gonna be a fun game 4

Sounds like the Magic style of play is really getting in their heads. Good. Take them out of their comfort zone. Make them play our style of basketball and we have more of a chance.

They’ve had the 3rd fewest fouls called against them per game, we’ve had 3rd most. They’re #3 in ftas per game these playoffs. They can’t complain. They complain because the Magic have rattled their cage.

[pepe1991]

He can shoot long twos just fine... but the 3s man... it's insane

I believe he'll get his shot back but he needs to just work on that in the summer.

I mean, let's be real and honest for a second.
Do we EVER make any plays for him?

No.

In 3 games combined, do you know how many shots he got in first quarters to get going?

Game 1 - 1 FGA
Game 2 - 0 FGA
Game 3 - 1 FGA

So he had two shots in first quarters of 3 games.


This is how life looked for him on championship team in 2023 (First quarters)

Game 1 vs Lakers- 4 shots ( one short mid range, 1 three, two layups)
Game 2 vs Lakers - 0 shots
Game 3 vs Lakers 2 shots
Game 4 vs Lakers - 6 shots ( 5 threes, 1 layup )

12 shots in 4 games.

You can't expect from him to make shots if there is nobody to set him up early nor we ever look to get him going. Once he finally gets shot, it's deep in second quarter, with already heavy legs, with pre game shootaround being hour ago. Good luck finding rhythm.

On top of that even passes he get are often late in shot clock, as direct result of failed original play and result of bail out desparation passing.


Like, literally, this is one of his shots he took last night



Guy is yet to even GET A PASS with 1,3 sec on the clock because he was handed hot potato after:
- Banchero aimlessly dribbled ball for 8 sec
- passed to contested KCP who gave up ball to wide open Franz, who passed on shot, gave it to covered Joseph, who dribbled ball inside and gave this crap to KCP


Look, i'm not KCP "defender" , but KCP is in TERRIBLE situation when it comes to shooting with this team. Nobody is looking to find him, nobody passed goot looks to him, nobody can hits him on time with passing. He is fall guy to take some of hardest shots possible.

And if you think my upper picture is exception, here's same crap from game 2. Banchero failing to post up Prichard leads to bailout pass to KCP in corner for desparation shot with White in his face



You could replace him with prime Klay or Ray Ray and results would still be similar. Shooters need quality looks and good rhythm. We give them neither, but write on forums how they "forget how to shoot". No, they don't. They simply aren't involved in offense.


And nba. com tracks shot clock and "wide open" shots, but nothing covers quality of those passes. Jokić and Lebron set up shooters in perfect way, passing ball right at their chest. If player gets "wide open" shot but has to test his 35 inch vertical just to catch a ball, or has to squat just to pick up ball aimed at his feet, he might be "wide open" but still isn't in perfect shooting motion. Little things matter. There is somebody on youtube who made breakdown of how important it is to pre-set shooter for shot, like , if guy is lefty, you probably shouldn't pass ball on his right because it will offset his body and he will need time to adjust.

I love you Pepe but this post upset me greatly. Highly recommend people go watch the shots being missed by KCP on NBA.com and instead of looking at these still pictures. All 17 shots taken were great shots. Even the shots taken at the end of shot clock or even in the picture were great shoots. In the picture, yes KCP had 1.5 second to take the shot but it wasn't rushed it was more than enough time with his quick release. He caught it in rhythm, wide open, and missed.

KCP is just plain missing and watching the clips he has nobody but himself to blame. KCP has never been a volume. He only averages 8.2 shots in the playoff for his career and averages just under 6 shots in this series. He has always been a catch and shoot player. He is not being used any differently than any of his prior teams. To blame the coaching staff, Paolo, or Franz for the shoots being taken and is now being missed is just wrong.

I too wish for better diversity on offense but KCP's job is to be a 3 and D player and he is failing on the offensive end.

Let's go through it together?
All KCP shots from last game

Shot one
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=36&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%202%27%20Running%20Layup

Driving layup over KCP (miss)


Shot 2
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=36&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%202%27%20Running%20Layup

Heavily contested spot up 3, because Franz for no reason passed wide open corner 3


Shot 3
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=374&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2027%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

This is one from my picture. He recived ball with 0,7 sec left with 2 men contesting it


32 min, 3 FGA. One transition FGA and two hot potatoes served by teammates.


And this isn't really nothing new.

Spoiler:

Game 2

First shot ( after 0 FGA in first quarter)

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=211&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2027%27%203PT%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot

Good shot, good rhythm, just misses it


Shot 2
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=242&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2024%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

From my second pic, clock running down, contested 3

Shot 3

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=250&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2017%27%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot

Heavily contested mid range


Shot 4
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=267&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%205%27%20Running%20Layup

Fail by KCP, could simply pass to Paolo

Shot 5

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=358&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2024%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Here we go again with reciving passes with below 2 sec to shoot. 1,3 sec, "open" but once again under shot clock pressure


Shot 6

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=381&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2026%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Wide open shot, just misses it

shot 7
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=423&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%203PT%20Jump%20Shot
open corner 3 brick. No excuses

Shot 8

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=554&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2026%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Once again last second pass, contested 3 , once again being in shooting motion with sub 2 sec on the clock


Shot 9

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=591&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=Caldwell-Pope%2022%27%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot%20(3%20PTS)
Running jump shot mid range, self created offense

He got SOME good looks and missed it, but whole bunch of his shots come when others simply don't want to take bad shots, so they give it up to him in impossible situation to score.

[Rainwater]

I mean, let's be real and honest for a second.
Do we EVER make any plays for him?

No.

In 3 games combined, do you know how many shots he got in first quarters to get going?

Game 1 - 1 FGA
Game 2 - 0 FGA
Game 3 - 1 FGA

So he had two shots in first quarters of 3 games.


This is how life looked for him on championship team in 2023 (First quarters)

Game 1 vs Lakers- 4 shots ( one short mid range, 1 three, two layups)
Game 2 vs Lakers - 0 shots
Game 3 vs Lakers 2 shots
Game 4 vs Lakers - 6 shots ( 5 threes, 1 layup )

12 shots in 4 games.

You can't expect from him to make shots if there is nobody to set him up early nor we ever look to get him going. Once he finally gets shot, it's deep in second quarter, with already heavy legs, with pre game shootaround being hour ago. Good luck finding rhythm.

On top of that even passes he get are often late in shot clock, as direct result of failed original play and result of bail out desparation passing.


Like, literally, this is one of his shots he took last night



Guy is yet to even GET A PASS with 1,3 sec on the clock because he was handed hot potato after:
- Banchero aimlessly dribbled ball for 8 sec
- passed to contested KCP who gave up ball to wide open Franz, who passed on shot, gave it to covered Joseph, who dribbled ball inside and gave this crap to KCP


Look, i'm not KCP "defender" , but KCP is in TERRIBLE situation when it comes to shooting with this team. Nobody is looking to find him, nobody passed goot looks to him, nobody can hits him on time with passing. He is fall guy to take some of hardest shots possible.

And if you think my upper picture is exception, here's same crap from game 2. Banchero failing to post up Prichard leads to bailout pass to KCP in corner for desparation shot with White in his face



You could replace him with prime Klay or Ray Ray and results would still be similar. Shooters need quality looks and good rhythm. We give them neither, but write on forums how they "forget how to shoot". No, they don't. They simply aren't involved in offense.


And nba. com tracks shot clock and "wide open" shots, but nothing covers quality of those passes. Jokić and Lebron set up shooters in perfect way, passing ball right at their chest. If player gets "wide open" shot but has to test his 35 inch vertical just to catch a ball, or has to squat just to pick up ball aimed at his feet, he might be "wide open" but still isn't in perfect shooting motion. Little things matter. There is somebody on youtube who made breakdown of how important it is to pre-set shooter for shot, like , if guy is lefty, you probably shouldn't pass ball on his right because it will offset his body and he will need time to adjust.

I love you Pepe but this post upset me greatly. Highly recommend people go watch the shots being missed by KCP on NBA.com and instead of looking at these still pictures. All 17 shots taken were great shots. Even the shots taken at the end of shot clock or even in the picture were great shoots. In the picture, yes KCP had 1.5 second to take the shot but it wasn't rushed it was more than enough time with his quick release. He caught it in rhythm, wide open, and missed.

KCP is just plain missing and watching the clips he has nobody but himself to blame. KCP has never been a volume. He only averages 8.2 shots in the playoff for his career and averages just under 6 shots in this series. He has always been a catch and shoot player. He is not being used any differently than any of his prior teams. To blame the coaching staff, Paolo, or Franz for the shoots being taken and is now being missed is just wrong.

I too wish for better diversity on offense but KCP's job is to be a 3 and D player and he is failing on the offensive end.

Let's go through it together?
All KCP shots from last game

Shot one
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=36&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%202%27%20Running%20Layup

Driving layup over KCP (miss)


Shot 2
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=36&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%202%27%20Running%20Layup

Heavily contested spot up 3, because Franz for no reason passed wide open corner 3


Shot 3
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=374&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2027%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

This is one from my picture. He recived ball with 0,7 sec left with 2 men contesting it


32 min, 3 FGA. One transition FGA and two hot potatoes served by teammates.


And this isn't really nothing new.

Spoiler:

Game 2

First shot ( after 0 FGA in first quarter)

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=211&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2027%27%203PT%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot

Good shot, good rhythm, just misses it


Shot 2
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=242&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2024%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

From my second pic, clock running down, contested 3

Shot 3

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=250&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2017%27%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot

Heavily contested mid range


Shot 4
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=267&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%205%27%20Running%20Layup

Fail by KCP, could simply pass to Paolo

Shot 5

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=358&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2024%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Here we go again with reciving passes with below 2 sec to shoot. 1,3 sec, "open" but once again under shot clock pressure


Shot 6

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=381&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2026%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Wide open shot, just misses it

shot 7
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=423&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%203PT%20Jump%20Shot
open corner 3 brick. No excuses

Shot 8

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=554&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2026%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Once again last second pass, contested 3 , once again being in shooting motion with sub 2 sec on the clock


Shot 9

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=591&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=Caldwell-Pope%2022%27%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot%20(3%20PTS)
Running jump shot mid range, self created offense

He got SOME good looks and missed it, but whole bunch of his shots come when others simply don't want to take bad shots, so they give it up to him in impossible situation to score.

You and I just have different interpretations of bad shots. I don’t think a guy running at you from 5, 10 feet makes it a shot you can’t make. Most shots are contested and players practice drills for such occasions. Even these last second shorts weren’t poor shots. Would one prefer not to have seconds to shoot? sure, but it’s not like he was throwing heaves. These were done with great rhythm and follow through. KCP is a 3D guy these are shots he is supposed to make.

[fendilim]

I love you Pepe but this post upset me greatly. Highly recommend people go watch the shots being missed by KCP on NBA.com and instead of looking at these still pictures. All 17 shots taken were great shots. Even the shots taken at the end of shot clock or even in the picture were great shoots. In the picture, yes KCP had 1.5 second to take the shot but it wasn't rushed it was more than enough time with his quick release. He caught it in rhythm, wide open, and missed.

KCP is just plain missing and watching the clips he has nobody but himself to blame. KCP has never been a volume. He only averages 8.2 shots in the playoff for his career and averages just under 6 shots in this series. He has always been a catch and shoot player. He is not being used any differently than any of his prior teams. To blame the coaching staff, Paolo, or Franz for the shoots being taken and is now being missed is just wrong.

I too wish for better diversity on offense but KCP's job is to be a 3 and D player and he is failing on the offensive end.

Let's go through it together?
All KCP shots from last game

Shot one
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=36&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%202%27%20Running%20Layup

Driving layup over KCP (miss)


Shot 2
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=36&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%202%27%20Running%20Layup

Heavily contested spot up 3, because Franz for no reason passed wide open corner 3


Shot 3
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=374&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2027%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

This is one from my picture. He recived ball with 0,7 sec left with 2 men contesting it


32 min, 3 FGA. One transition FGA and two hot potatoes served by teammates.


And this isn't really nothing new.

Spoiler:

Game 2

First shot ( after 0 FGA in first quarter)

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=211&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2027%27%203PT%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot

Good shot, good rhythm, just misses it


Shot 2
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=242&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2024%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

From my second pic, clock running down, contested 3

Shot 3

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=250&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2017%27%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot

Heavily contested mid range


Shot 4
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=267&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%205%27%20Running%20Layup

Fail by KCP, could simply pass to Paolo

Shot 5

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=358&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2024%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Here we go again with reciving passes with below 2 sec to shoot. 1,3 sec, "open" but once again under shot clock pressure


Shot 6

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=381&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2026%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Wide open shot, just misses it

shot 7
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=423&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%203PT%20Jump%20Shot
open corner 3 brick. No excuses

Shot 8

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=554&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2026%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Once again last second pass, contested 3 , once again being in shooting motion with sub 2 sec on the clock


Shot 9

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=591&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=Caldwell-Pope%2022%27%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot%20(3%20PTS)
Running jump shot mid range, self created offense

He got SOME good looks and missed it, but whole bunch of his shots come when others simply don't want to take bad shots, so they give it up to him in impossible situation to score.

You and I just have different interpretations of bad shots. I don’t think a guy running at you from 5, 10 feet makes it a shot you can’t make. Most shots are contested and players practice drills for such occasions. Even these last second shorts weren’t poor shots. Would you prefer not to have seconds to shoot sure, but it’s not like he was throwing heaves. These were done with great rhythm and follow through. KCP is a 3D guy these are shots he is supposed to make.

Shooting with a defender coming at you or shooting with time pressure is different with an uncontested shots.

I do agree that KCP should be making those shots, regardless. But to look at it objectively, the shots KCP is taking with the Nuggets vs the Magic are indeed different. And that’s what separates contenders and pretenders, jokic and Paolo.

[Rainwater]

Let's go through it together?
All KCP shots from last game

Shot one
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=36&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%202%27%20Running%20Layup

Driving layup over KCP (miss)


Shot 2
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=36&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%202%27%20Running%20Layup

Heavily contested spot up 3, because Franz for no reason passed wide open corner 3


Shot 3
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=374&GameID=0042400113&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2027%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

This is one from my picture. He recived ball with 0,7 sec left with 2 men contesting it


32 min, 3 FGA. One transition FGA and two hot potatoes served by teammates.


And this isn't really nothing new.

Spoiler:

Game 2

First shot ( after 0 FGA in first quarter)

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=211&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2027%27%203PT%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot

Good shot, good rhythm, just misses it


Shot 2
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=242&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2024%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

From my second pic, clock running down, contested 3

Shot 3

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=250&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2017%27%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot

Heavily contested mid range


Shot 4
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=267&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%205%27%20Running%20Layup

Fail by KCP, could simply pass to Paolo

Shot 5

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=358&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2024%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Here we go again with reciving passes with below 2 sec to shoot. 1,3 sec, "open" but once again under shot clock pressure


Shot 6

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=381&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2026%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Wide open shot, just misses it

shot 7
https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=423&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%203PT%20Jump%20Shot
open corner 3 brick. No excuses

Shot 8

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=554&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=MISS%20Caldwell-Pope%2026%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot

Once again last second pass, contested 3 , once again being in shooting motion with sub 2 sec on the clock


Shot 9

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=591&GameID=0042400112&Season=2024-25&flag=1&title=Caldwell-Pope%2022%27%20Pullup%20Jump%20Shot%20(3%20PTS)
Running jump shot mid range, self created offense

He got SOME good looks and missed it, but whole bunch of his shots come when others simply don't want to take bad shots, so they give it up to him in impossible situation to score.

You and I just have different interpretations of bad shots. I don’t think a guy running at you from 5, 10 feet makes it a shot you can’t make. Most shots are contested and players practice drills for such occasions. Even these last second shorts weren’t poor shots. Would you prefer not to have seconds to shoot sure, but it’s not like he was throwing heaves. These were done with great rhythm and follow through. KCP is a 3D guy these are shots he is supposed to make.

Shooting with a defender coming at you or shooting with time pressure is different with an uncontested shots.

I do agree that KCP should be making those shots, regardless. But to look at it objectively, the shots KCP is taking with the Nuggets vs the Magic are indeed different. And that’s what separates contenders and pretenders, jokic and Paolo.

Watch on YouTube

He makes shots with defenders coming at him and he has a quick release.

If you watch some of the shots in the video above, I really don't see the difference from below for example. Same shots he was getting in Denver is the same shots he is getting in Orlando the only difference is that he is missing.

Watch on YouTube

[pepe1991]

You and I just have different interpretations of bad shots. I don’t think a guy running at you from 5, 10 feet makes it a shot you can’t make. Most shots are contested and players practice drills for such occasions. Even these last second shorts weren’t poor shots. Would you prefer not to have seconds to shoot sure, but it’s not like he was throwing heaves. These were done with great rhythm and follow through. KCP is a 3D guy these are shots he is supposed to make.

Shooting with a defender coming at you or shooting with time pressure is different with an uncontested shots.

I do agree that KCP should be making those shots, regardless. But to look at it objectively, the shots KCP is taking with the Nuggets vs the Magic are indeed different. And that’s what separates contenders and pretenders, jokic and Paolo.

Watch on YouTube

If you watch some of the shots in the video above, I really don't really see the difference from below for example. Same way he plays in Denver is the same why he plays in Orlando the only difference is that he is missing.

Watch on YouTube

I don't want to come off as some KCP nuthugger who finds excuses for his shooting, but it just happends to be that i watched s*** loud of Nuggets games over year to remember how open he used to be.

This is level of WIDE OPEN looks he used to have ( vs Lakers , 2024 playoffs)

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=331&GameID=0042300151&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Caldwell-Pope%2027%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot%20(3%20PTS)%20(Murray%208%20AST)


https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=391&GameID=0042300151&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Caldwell-Pope%2024%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot%20(6%20PTS)%20(Jokic%204%20AST)

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=408&GameID=0042300151&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Caldwell-Pope%2025%27%203PT%20Running%20Jump%20Shot%20(9%20PTS)%20(Jokic%205%20AST)


Two shots in a row mid way through possession so wide open he could order coffe, scroll throug instagram, watch few youtube clips and make shots

In one quarter of Nuggets vs Lakers he got more good looks than he got in 3 games with Magic.

This is problem when you ignore "Jokić bonus" in FA and overpay guy who used to play with two of top 10 greatest offensive players of all time, on elite offense where his job was so damn easy.

Yea i get what you see as "not bad shot". And i agree to a degree BUT he used to be so damn open and didn't shot ball with 0,1 sec on the clock. That's the difference. How often he is set, how often is he used and when his shots come.

To paraphrase some youtuber, shooters need to know when and where their shot will come from. Does KCP know that on Magic? Hell no. He goes through a 35 min game without single spot up (literally game 3). So you take on 3 and D guy who isn't passer, can't put ball on the deck and you don't set him up. Can you really blame him that much for failure?

[Rainwater]

Shooting with a defender coming at you or shooting with time pressure is different with an uncontested shots.

I do agree that KCP should be making those shots, regardless. But to look at it objectively, the shots KCP is taking with the Nuggets vs the Magic are indeed different. And that’s what separates contenders and pretenders, jokic and Paolo.

Watch on YouTube

If you watch some of the shots in the video above, I really don't really see the difference from below for example. Same way he plays in Denver is the same why he plays in Orlando the only difference is that he is missing.

Watch on YouTube

I don't want to come off as some KCP nuthugger who finds excuses for his shooting, but it just happends to be that i watched s*** loud of Nuggets games over year to remember how open he used to be.

This is level of WIDE OPEN looks he used to have ( vs Lakers , 2024 playoffs)

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=331&GameID=0042300151&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Caldwell-Pope%2027%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot%20(3%20PTS)%20(Murray%208%20AST)


https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=391&GameID=0042300151&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Caldwell-Pope%2024%27%203PT%20Jump%20Shot%20(6%20PTS)%20(Jokic%204%20AST)

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&GameEventID=408&GameID=0042300151&Season=2023-24&flag=1&title=Caldwell-Pope%2025%27%203PT%20Running%20Jump%20Shot%20(9%20PTS)%20(Jokic%205%20AST)


Two shots in a row mid way through possession so wide open he could order coffe, scroll throug instagram, watch few youtube clips and make shots

In one quarter of Nuggets vs Lakers he got more good looks than he got in 3 games with Magic.

This is problem when you ignore "Jokić bonus" in FA and overpay guy who used to play with two of top 10 greatest offensive players of all time, on elite offense where his job was so damn easy.

Yea i get what you see as "not bad shot". And i agree to a degree BUT he used to be so damn open and didn't shot ball with 0,1 sec on the clock. That's the difference. How often he is set, how often is he used and when his shots come.

To paraphrase some youtuber, shooters need to know when and where their shot will come from. Does KCP know that on Magic? Hell no. He goes through a 35 min game without single spot up (literally game 3). So you take on 3 and D guy who isn't passer, can't put ball on the deck and you don't set him up. Can you really blame him that much for failure?

I just disagree with the openness and the shot attempts Pepe

His last year with Denver was very similar to his first year in Orlando. He is nearly as wide open and nearly took as many shots.

Denver

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203484/shots-dash?Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular+Season

Orlando

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203484/shots-dash?SeasonType=Regular+Season

Here are his playoff stats compared to last year (with a low sample size in Orlando, making it tough to gauge). You are correct, he does take shots later in the shot clock in Orlando, but he has been more wide open when compared to his time last year in Denver (nearly 50% of the time).

Denver

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203484/shots-dash?Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Playoffs

Orlando

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203484/shots-dash?SeasonType=Playoffs

I really do think the guy is just missing shots.

[Bensational]

Worth noting that even Jokic, a GOAT C, didn’t make the playoffs until he was 23. They made the 2nd round and he averaged 25ppg 13rpg 8apg.

Paolo at 22 is averaging 32ppg 8rpg 4apg - against the defending champions. He’s doing alright. He’s got another 5 years to try win a ring by the same age as Jokic. He’ll never be Jokic, let’s not go there, but thankfully teams win ‘ships, and not just friendships.

[SHAQ32]

Worth noting that even Jokic, a GOAT C, didn’t make the playoffs until he was 23. They made the 2nd round and he averaged 25ppg 13rpg 8apg.

Paolo at 22 is averaging 32ppg 8rpg 4apg - against the defending champions. He’s doing alright. He’s got another 5 years to try win a ring by the same age as Jokic. He’ll never be Jokic, let’s not go there, but thankfully teams win ‘ships, and not just friendships.

I miss Aaron Gordon, man.

[drsd]

Worth noting that even Jokic, a GOAT C, ....

Nikola Jokić is 1 of 2 players in NBA history to shoot 10-10 or better from the field in a triple-double. Can you name the other?

Spoiler:

..

Wilt Chamberlain

stathead LINK

Jokić has done it three times and Chamberlain twice

[CalOrl11]

So Jaylen Brown implied a fight might breakout soon… gonna be a fun game 4

Bring it on, let them know we are here in this series.