Official Speculation & Free Agency Thread (Pt X, Mods close)

Reverse_Angle · Post #721 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:50 am

I can't believe some of you guys think marshon brooks is a star in making. How many whole games have you even seen him play? Sigh.

He doesn't play defense, he uses a lot of possessions on a bad team WITH a hell of a PG, his assist to turnover ratio is essentially 1. He is basically a shorter and narrower nick young... For a team like magic with a structured offense, he is a chucker and a black hole.

It is like you have no basketball sense at all.

BadMofoPimp · Post #722 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:54 am

Marshon Brooks: Looks good because he is getting minutes on one of the worst teams in the league. Maggete can get good stats for Charlotte, does that make him a cornerstone player.

Post #723 » by **Bensational** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:16 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:Bucks wouldn't make that trade. There would have to be more incentive. Replace Duhon with Clark and they may bite.

Bucks might consider it if the alternative is amnestying Jackson. they may not be interested in swallowing his contract and seeing no returns for a year.

and not many teams are going to give a guy like JRich, who's relatively good value in comparison to Jackson, in return. so, the Bucks will have to swallow a bad contract to make it happen.

this is thinking the deal is JRich + Duhon for SJax. if Livingston is included, then i agree that more needs to be added.

94_MagicFan · Post #724 » by **94_MagicFan** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:17 am

I'd be ok with throwing in clark or a pick

BadMofoPimp · Post #725 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:27 am

94_MagicFan wrote:I'd be ok with throwing in clark or a pick

SJax is 6'8" and can play both SF and SG effectively. Nothing against JRich, but SJax is better.

arkknight1988 · Post #726 » by **arkknight1988** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:34 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
94_MagicFan wrote:I'd be ok with throwing in clark or a pick

SJax is 6'8" and can play both SF and SG effectively. Nothing against JRich, but SJax is better.

yep. if jrich doesn't turn it around by the trade deadline i would be ok sending him and duhon out for jax. i think jj and wafer are more than capable of handling the sg spot and we can play jax at sg some with turk. can livingston be a good backup pg?

SolidSnake008 · Post #727 » by **SolidSnake008** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:24 am

So they're going to help us out by taking our trash for Stack jack?

thelead · Post #728 » by **thelead** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:29 am

SolidSnake008 wrote:So they're going to help us out by taking our trash for Stack jack?

JRich isn't trash. He just doesn't work very well with no-vision Jameer.

Phantom418 · Post #729 » by **Phantom418** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:39 am

thelead wrote:
SolidSnake008 wrote:So they're going to help us out by taking our trash for Stack jack?

JRich isn't trash. He just doesn't work very well with no-vision Jameer.

Well he's trash on defense and if his shot isn't falling from the outside, he's kinda useless. A pass 1st PG would benefit him though.

thelead · Post #730 » by **thelead** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:47 am

Phantom418 wrote:
thelead wrote:
SolidSnake008 wrote:So they're going to help us out by taking our trash for Stack jack?

JRich isn't trash. He just doesn't work very well with no-vision Jameer.

Well he's trash on defense and if his shot isn't falling from the outside, he's kinda useless. A pass 1st PG would benefit him though.

true. All i'm trying to say is jrich for sjax seems fair.

SolidSnake008 · Post #731 » by **SolidSnake008** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:16 am

I would like Sjax...He is a tough player and he can create his own shot....I think he would do well as our starting 2....Sjax is a good passer as well so from positions 1-3 we have competent passers and ball-handlers....Damn Sjax is a decent defender too plus you can say what you want about him he does have leadership skills...seen him bring his team together in the playoffs before...Haven't thought about Sjax until now and i would like him on our team....what would get it done though?

Blue_and_Whte · Post #732 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:00 pm

thelead wrote:
SolidSnake008 wrote:So they're going to help us out by taking our trash for Stack jack?

JRich isn't trash. He just doesn't work very well with no-vision Jameer.

Thats crap. So when jameer passes Jrich the ball on the perimeter and he misses the open shot, it's jameer's no-vision and not JRich's no-shotmaking? Jason is playing like garbage and it's nobody's fault but his own.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #733 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:01 pm

SolidSnake008 wrote:I would like Sjax...He is a tough player and he can create his own shot....I think he would do well as our starting 2....Sjax is a good passer as well so from positions 1-3 we have competent passers and ball-handlers....Damn Sjax is a decent defender too plus you can say what you want about him he does have leadership skills...seen him bring his team together in the playoffs before...Haven't thought about Sjax until now and i would like him on our team....what would get it done though?

+1, Dont see why a straight up trade for Jason wouldn't work. I cant look up the salaries atm. Jason + idk...Orton?

Reverse_Angle · Post #734 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:26 pm

why is there talks of captain jack being possibly amnestied in the first place?

tiderulz · Post #735 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:35 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
SolidSnake008 wrote:I would like Sjax...He is a tough player and he can create his own shot....I think he would do well as our starting 2....Sjax is a good passer as well so from positions 1-3 we have competent passers and ball-handlers....Damn Sjax is a decent defender too plus you can say what you want about him he does have leadership skills...seen him bring his team together in the playoffs before...Haven't thought about Sjax until now and i would like him on our team....what would get it done though?
+1, Dont see why a straight up trade for Jason wouldn't work. I cant look up the salaries atm. Jason + idk...Orton?

Sjax making like $10mil a year, straight up trade wont work.

SolidSnake008 · Post #736 » by **SolidSnake008** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:29 pm

J-Rich plus Duhon i think would work for Sjax.....doesn't work in trade machine or trade checker because J-Rich can't be traded for a few months i believe but he can be traded at the deadline...It may be a move you have to make if we're keeping Dwight for the year...Sjax is on Dwight's wishlist

Reverse_Angle · Post #737 » by **Reverse_Angle** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:06 pm

i think you guys are underselling your starting SG for someone who is on the verge of being cut.

in what world a 33 year old guy who made a career of being a hard nosed defender stopped being even a good defender would help magic to get better. he never shot the ball well, he is not known for being clutch and he has discipline issues.

he no longer plays like his old elf, he hasnt been in the last two years. a team with very little talent wants to CUT him.

get the **** hint.

Nyce_1 · Post #738 » by **Nyce_1** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:19 pm

Having a discussion with one of my boys. If we get Bynum/Gasol for Dwight, how possible would it be to trade Pau/Anderson for Love? Giving us a front court of Turk/Love/Bynum.

WeAreVenom · Post #739 » by **WeAreVenom** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:28 pm

Did anyone else see this?!

Sources told ESPN.com that the aforementioned Hawks, meanwhile, engaged Orlando in trade talks for Howard earlier this month with an offer believed to be headlined by $124 million guard Joe Johnson and swingman Josh Smith. You have to figure that the Magic, though, would insist on Al Horford if such discussions ever got serious.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_ ... for-dwight

Maaaaan, I don't know about yall, but this team is starting to make me nervous. First we almost took Lopez/Wallace/1st...............and then we turned around and discussed taking on the worst contract in the league.

I understand they want to remain competitive........but this isn't the way. At all.

ADRajX · Post #740 » by **ADRajX** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:33 pm

^ ughh... for the love of God... No Amare, no Joe Johnson, no Boozer... no "~30 year old that's going to be over-the-hill in a year or two while on a bad contract" player. I hope Otis isn't that stupid.