Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXX: Offseason Edition)

Cigamodnalro · Post #721 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:59 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
NEM wrote:i dont want camby or kaman... if we are rebuilding, we need young bigs
cant fill all holes in 1 year. Next year we go get our young big like Pekovic for like a max deal

sounds pornographic

thelead · Post #722 » by **thelead** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 8:59 pm

Kytu wrote:
magicfan4life88 wrote:Idk about you guys but id trade howard for a star guard or small forward and sign kaman or camby to play center

+1 with all the new rules it's a guards league now

Sure, who's trading a star guard for a rental??? There aren't many anyways.

Cigamodnalro · Post #723 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:00 pm

Warriors Drop Out of Howard Sweepstakes

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/0 ... eepstakes/

CourtsideTV · Post #724 » by **CourtsideTV** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:01 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:Are we all going to have Nets sigs for the next few days? Lol that would be epic.

no just me

Skin · Post #725 » by **Skin** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:01 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
NEM wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote: cant fill all holes in 1 year. Next year we go get our young big like Pekovic for like a max deal

yeah, but why would camby at 38 come here for the MLE when he can go and win a ring in miami for the MLE? and kaman is getting at least 10 million a year for at least 3 years.

pretty sure Camby will go to houston where he has a home. i wouldnt mind something like that but Camby wants to be a starter wherever he goes.

We need to pursue Jason Thompson. He is a better C than both Camby and Kaman and he is YOUNG!

JBR152 · Post #726 » by **JBR152** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:01 pm

dariusl7 wrote:Don't trade him. Let him suffer. If he walks next summer he will take less money which is not good business for him or his agent. Also, his options will be limited. If he will refuse to play he will look even more as an ..s than now if that's possible.
We have nothing to loose. We will suck long if we trade and we will suck long if he walks. Mediocracy is the worst case scenario. So don't do those deals. If he walks we will rebuild organically through sucking and drafting and only then signing FA.
Now, if he's stuck with us until after 2012-2013, he is looking at limited options at where to go, looking at less money if he signs somewhere else and looking to walk away from an opportunity to play for a good team here in Orlando (cutting salaries starting now and getting cap for next year to sign 2 great players).
Make it difficult for him. He made it difficult for us. We can force him to a situation where his best option will be to resign here and the clown that he is he will be all smiles and happy to be here.
This year play and develop young guys + D12, BBD. Sit Turk, trade JRich, QRich. Let Anderson walk, resign JJ if contract is reasonable.
Just tell D12 he will not be traded because in 2013 free agency we will be his best option.
To those who will say what about Shaq situation in 1996 I would answer we came back and we came back strong it just that the road we took was wrong one, we were mediocre for a long time. And those proposed trades will do just that.
So in summary:
1. Don't trade him. We will be his best option to resign.
2. If he walks: we will rebuild through draft and FA
3. Mediocracy is not the answer. It's painful and it's long

Why keep a guy who doesn't want to be here? That's like staying with your hot girlfriend even though she's cheating on you. I don't want someone on this team that doesn't like it here. Send him away. I don't understand why people can't grasp this. It's time to start fresh opposed to waiting and hoping things get better and he will resign.

D12VCMagic · Post #727 » by **D12VCMagic** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:02 pm

Damn, the Warriors were actually one of the teams that intrigued me. I'm guessing he'll end up in Houston

cvMagic · Post #728 » by **cvMagic** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:02 pm

backasswards wrote:
cvMagic wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:The Pistons did not have a superstar on their roster when they won not too long ago.

You are correct. One team in 33 years.
That should be our plan to emulate.

Nolimit1211 · Post #729 » by **Nolimit1211** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:03 pm

CourtsideTV wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:Are we all going to have Nets sigs for the next few days? Lol that would be epic.

no just me

Lol fine!

BelgianMagic · Post #730 » by **BelgianMagic** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:03 pm

Colin Stephenson ‏@Ledger_Nets
Hearing the Nets-Joe Johnson deal is "pretty much done.''

CourtsideTV · Post #731 » by **CourtsideTV** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:04 pm

cvMagic wrote:The Pistons did not have a superstar on their roster when they won not too long ago.

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yeah but they had 4 allstars

tayshaun ben wallace billups rip

RickB-Orlando · Post #732 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:04 pm

Cigamodnalro wrote:Warriors Drop Out of Howard Sweepstakes

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/0 ... eepstakes/

Funniest line in that article:

But we have somebody called Andrew Bogut. He is, in our opinion, one of the three best centers in the whole NBA, and in most people’s opinion.

I'm sure the only way that happens is if everyone rates them:
1. Howard
2. Bynum
3. Anyone not named Bynum or Howard

cb1115 · Post #733 » by **cb1115** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:04 pm

LOL Nets

Post #734 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:04 pm

Cigamodnalro wrote:Warriors Drop Out of Howard Sweepstakes

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2012/07/0 ... eepstakes/

“I never say never. But we have somebody called Andrew Bogut. He is, in our opinion, one of the three best centers in the whole NBA, and in most people’s opinion. And he wants to be here and is a great fit. We think we have a really nice nucleus now going forward.”

1. D12
2. Bynum
3. M. Gasol
4. Hibbert
5. T. Chandler

Skin · Post #735 » by **Skin** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:05 pm

JBR152 wrote:Why keep a guy who doesn't want to be here? That's like staying with your hot girlfriend even though she's cheating on you. I don't want someone on this team that doesn't like it here. Send him away. I don't understand why people can't grasp this. It's time to start fresh opposed to waiting and hoping things get better and he will resign.

Hey, if you got her tied up, you can continue to do nasty things to her... maybe things you wish you could have done, but never got the chance to do... 8-)

Post #736 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:06 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:
Colin Stephenson ‏@Ledger_Nets
Hearing the Nets-Joe Johnson deal is "pretty much done.''

I'm pretty happy this is going thru, considering this is killing their chances of getting D12 via free agency. But, what I want to know is how they're getting Joe Johnson for a lot of scrubtastic players.

RickB-Orlando · Post #737 » by **RickB-Orlando** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:07 pm

Skin wrote:
JBR152 wrote:Why keep a guy who doesn't want to be here? That's like staying with your hot girlfriend even though she's cheating on you. I don't want someone on this team that doesn't like it here. Send him away. I don't understand why people can't grasp this. It's time to start fresh opposed to waiting and hoping things get better and he will resign.

Hey, if you got her tied up, you can continue to do nasty things to her... maybe things you wish you could have done, but never got the chance to do...

Um...most folks would probably just cut her loose and let her go, but the REAL sickos would....wait, what was the metaphor we were after again...?

CourtsideTV · Post #738 » by **CourtsideTV** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:07 pm

nets have a good team now. they dont even need dwight

lopez
humphriez
wallace
joe johnson
deron

Post #739 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:08 pm

CourtsideTV wrote:nets have a good team now. they dont even need dwight

lopez
humphriez
wallace
joe johnson
deron

+1
They'll win their share of games.

Post #740 » by **Def Swami** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 9:08 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
As teams finalize framework of Joe Johnson deal contingent on DWill commitment, Nets won't be sending future 1st to Atlanta, source tells Y!