2020 Offseason: Trade Ideas / Trade Talk

[Nyce_1]

I really want to get Nesmith from Boston.

I wonder if Boston would have any interest in trading for Fournier to replace Heyward.

I want Nesmith but dont think he should be the key player in a Vuc trade lol

In the Athletic roundtable discussion Josh had with 2 Celtics' guys, they talked about AG, Fournier, and Ross. They said Boston's TPE + Nesmith for Fournier is fair. But Ainge is reluctant to give up young players for rentals; specifically citing a young Rozier for Ibaka from a few years back.

https://theathletic.com/2433788/2021/03/08/celtics-magic-trade-possibilities?source=user-shared-article

[Nyce_1]

In The Ringer's Power Rankings today. They claimed Miami, San Antonio, Boston, and Charlotte are expressing signifiant interest in Vuc. While the Hornets also like Fournier, and Denver sniffing around Ross.

My favorite Vuc trade idea is still with San Antonio, Aldridge, Vassel, and a pick for Vuc, giving the Magic what I had as a top 7 player from the last draft (at a position of need) and an expiring contract to free up a good bit of cap space. Keldon / White also interesting pieces. White is a bit older though.

Denver - Ross for RJ Hampton. Yes please.

Is that SAS package something from a real rumor or just wishful thinking?

[jonbob17]

In The Ringer's Power Rankings today. They claimed Miami, San Antonio, Boston, and Charlotte are expressing signifiant interest in Vuc. While the Hornets also like Fournier, and Denver sniffing around Ross.

My favorite Vuc trade idea is still with San Antonio, Aldridge, Vassel, and a pick for Vuc, giving the Magic what I had as a top 7 player from the last draft (at a position of need) and an expiring contract to free up a good bit of cap space. Keldon / White also interesting pieces. White is a bit older though.

Denver - Ross for RJ Hampton. Yes please.

Is that SAS package something from a real rumor or just wishful thinking?

That is just my idea on what we could get. The Ringer did say that San Antonio was showing significant interest though. I would just do it for the expiring and Vassel, any additional pick 2nd rounder or otherwise is gravy. I will run it through the real gm trade board.

[Nyce_1]

In The Ringer's Power Rankings today. They claimed Miami, San Antonio, Boston, and Charlotte are expressing signifiant interest in Vuc. While the Hornets also like Fournier, and Denver sniffing around Ross.

My favorite Vuc trade idea is still with San Antonio, Aldridge, Vassel, and a pick for Vuc, giving the Magic what I had as a top 7 player from the last draft (at a position of need) and an expiring contract to free up a good bit of cap space. Keldon / White also interesting pieces. White is a bit older though.

Denver - Ross for RJ Hampton. Yes please.

Is that SAS package something from a real rumor or just wishful thinking?

That is just my idea on what we could get. The Ringer did say that San Antonio was showing significant interest though. I would just do it for the expiring and Vassel, any additional pick 2nd rounder or otherwise is gravy. I will run it through the real gm trade board.

Gotcha. I'm extremely high on Vassell. If he's available to us, has to be in any package.

[fklt]

did anyone suggest kemba for fournier + gordon yet? a vet for vet, severely underperforming all-star in exchange for solid starters with matching salaries kinda trade. our guys are not gonna resign, and there's the obvious clifford connection.

[RookieStar]

I really want to get Nesmith from Boston.

I wonder if Boston would have any interest in trading for Fournier to replace Heyward.

I want Nesmith but dont think he should be the key player in a Vuc trade lol

In the Athletic roundtable discussion Josh had with 2 Celtics' guys, they talked about AG, Fournier, and Ross. They said Boston's TPE + Nesmith for Fournier is fair. But Ainge is reluctant to give up young players for rentals; specifically citing a young Rozier for Ibaka from a few years back.

https://theathletic.com/2433788/2021/03/08/celtics-magic-trade-possibilities?source=user-shared-article

Even for TPE+Nesmith? Im all for it. Both players fit each other team's timeline.

[jonbob17]

I really want to get Nesmith from Boston.

I wonder if Boston would have any interest in trading for Fournier to replace Heyward.

I want Nesmith but dont think he should be the key player in a Vuc trade lol

In the Athletic roundtable discussion Josh had with 2 Celtics' guys, they talked about AG, Fournier, and Ross. They said Boston's TPE + Nesmith for Fournier is fair. But Ainge is reluctant to give up young players for rentals; specifically citing a young Rozier for Ibaka from a few years back.

https://theathletic.com/2433788/2021/03/08/celtics-magic-trade-possibilities?source=user-shared-article

Even for TPE+Nesmith? Im all for it. Both players fit each other team's timeline.

It's not Nesmith + TPE. It's Fournier into their TPE for Nesmith. You don't get the TPE back.

[RookieStar]

In the Athletic roundtable discussion Josh had with 2 Celtics' guys, they talked about AG, Fournier, and Ross. They said Boston's TPE + Nesmith for Fournier is fair. But Ainge is reluctant to give up young players for rentals; specifically citing a young Rozier for Ibaka from a few years back.

https://theathletic.com/2433788/2021/03/08/celtics-magic-trade-possibilities?source=user-shared-article

Even for TPE+Nesmith? Im all for it. Both players fit each other team's timeline.

It's not Nesmith + TPE. It's Fournier into their TPE for Nesmith. You don't get the TPE back.

Yeah I git that. Poor choice of words on my part but I understand tge deal.

[skywalker33]

My favorite Vuc trade idea is still with San Antonio, Aldridge, Vassel, and a pick for Vuc, giving the Magic what I had as a top 5 player from the last draft (at a position of need) and an expiring contract to free up a good bit of cap space. Keldon / White also interesting pieces. White is a bit older though.

Denver - Ross for RJ Hampton. Yes please.

Well, you dream big, both really benefit ORL

[jonbob17]

Well, you dream big, both really benefit ORL

Who would you move for Ross?

[drsd]

Well, you dream big, both really benefit ORL

Who would you move for Ross?

Who ever it is, it is not Gary Harris. The idea that Orlando would want arguably the worst starting SG in the NBA for Ross; I wonder if some are on too much of the wacky-weed when they write editorials.

He's gonna make 20M next year. Look, I can swallow a trade this year to promote the tank. But we Magic fans must not be imagining NEXT years tank. That's just silly. But that is what Harris would bring: the L's.

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To answer the question, Ross would probably need to be part of a larger package. Something like Gordon, Bamba and Ross for Wiggins, Wanamaker, and Wiseman. That kind of deal.


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[jonbob17]

Well, you dream big, both really benefit ORL

Who would you move for Ross?

Who ever it is, it is not Gary Harris. The idea that Orlando would want arguably the worst starting SG in the NBA for Ross; I wonder if some are on too much of the wacky-weed when they write editorials.

He's gonna make 20M next year. Look, I can swallow a trade this year to promote the tank. But we Magic fans must not be imagining NEXT years tank. That's just silly. But that is what Harris would bring: the L's.

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To answer the question, Ross would probably need to be part of a larger package. Something like Gordon, Bamba and Ross for Wiggins, Wanamaker, and Wiseman. That kind of deal.


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I just don't understand why the 24th pick in a previous draft would be off the table, especially since hasn't shown anything yet. Odds are Hampton will never be as good as Ross is right now. Ross makes more contested 3s than anybody in the league, and makes them at a high rate. If the Magic were closer to contention, there is no way they would move him for Hampton, and it is fairly likely that the Magic FO thinks that Ross is more valuable to the future than Hampton. I just prefer a bigger step backwards, and put more chips into the future.

As for your suggestion. The Warriors have said they will not move the Minny pick OR Wiseman for anything short of a generational talent, which obviously none of those guys are, nor Vucevic.

[drsd]

I just don't understand why the 24th pick in a previous draft would be off the table, especially since hasn't shown anything yet. Odds are Hampton will never be as good as Ross is right now. Ross makes more contested 3s than anybody in the league, and makes them at a high rate. If the Magic were closer to contention, there is no way they would move him for Hampton, and it is fairly likely that the Magic FO thinks that Ross is more valuable to the future than Hampton. I just prefer a bigger step backwards, and put more chips into the future.

Ross is arguably the best offensive 6th man in the league. He is not looking to be traded.


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[MasterGMer]

I just don't understand why the 24th pick in a previous draft would be off the table, especially since hasn't shown anything yet. Odds are Hampton will never be as good as Ross is right now. Ross makes more contested 3s than anybody in the league, and makes them at a high rate. If the Magic were closer to contention, there is no way they would move him for Hampton, and it is fairly likely that the Magic FO thinks that Ross is more valuable to the future than Hampton. I just prefer a bigger step backwards, and put more chips into the future.

Ross is arguably the best offensive 6th man in the league. He is not looking to be traded.


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I thought Ross didn't fit the timeline just like Vuc

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[RookieStar]

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Yup I got this feeling they are doing this... another "run it back" but without Evan

[Bensational]

2 seasons in a row ‘derailed’ by injuries and no action to improve the team outside of hoping that injured player/s return. I just don’t know how you stay the course so adamantly on a path that keeps getting worse and worse.

[SD2042]

2 seasons in a row ‘derailed’ by injuries and no action to improve the team outside of hoping that injured player/s return. I just don’t know how you stay the course so adamantly on a path that keeps getting worse and worse.

If they continue to run the same train of thought off the rails, some heads may roll let's say a year from now.

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In other words, absolutely delusional.

Legitimately hate this front office.

[SOUL]

We're always tight lipped so nobody really has information. I would be surprised if we didn't move one or two of them. I don't think we're moving Vuc.