2023 NBA Draft Thread 3

[KillMonger]

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[tiderulz]

I am at the point where if he is not picked ill be super upset. I am now leaning towards him at 6 and whatever falls to us at 11 so be it. I think 3 years from now he is top 4 of the class. Grab him at 6 and let the chips fall where they may.

I think he will rather be picked at 11.

Realistically I think big boards could legit have it like this

Wemby
Scoot
Miller
Amen
Ausar
Keyonte

mock drafts ive seen dont have him higher than 9. and most have him in the teens

[eyriq]

I think he will rather be picked at 11.

Realistically I think big boards could legit have it like this

Wemby
Scoot
Miller
Amen
Ausar
Keyonte

mock drafts ive seen dont have him higher than 9. and most have him in the teens

Yeah, this is accurate. He slid down big boards as his college season progressed. Do post-combine interviews get him to rebound? I think they do. His resume is smexy, his college performance looks better in aggregate, and he seems ready to shine in these interviews.

[Creativetran]

Was watching a youtube on re-drafting the 2021 draft; it was stated that in some order the top-3 would be F-Wagner, Evan Mobley, and Josh Giddey.

And this is why I rather us stay put than try to trade up. After the top 3, everyone is so packed together I wouldn't be surprised one bit if our 11th pick is better than the 6th

[KillMonger]

We could reunite HS teammates Jarace Walker and Keyonte.

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I think Keyonte climbs up the mock draft rankings and we end up taking him at 6. There is nothing wrong with his college production and he was the #6 recruit coming into college.

Keyonte is my guy now. The smoothness of his jumper reminds me of someone I will not say. He has playmaking potential and I think the defensive concerns can be corrected. He is exactly what we are missing.

i was watching a scouting video that compares his game to a jamal murray....

[bigdogdylan5]

I think he will rather be picked at 11.

Realistically I think big boards could legit have it like this

Wemby
Scoot
Miller
Amen
Ausar
Keyonte

mock drafts ive seen dont have him higher than 9. and most have him in the teens

I think us as fans put way to much stock in the mock drafts. I was listening to Russillo talk about how GMs will literally toss out their evaluations because they are nervous to pick someone that mocks say should go 5 or 6 picks later. We are all more draft knowledgeable than most fans but we get nowhere near the info the teams get. They have been scouting these guys since high school. They just know more and I want them to go with their gut.

I liked Franz when we drafted him but there were boos in the arena that night because people wanted Moody or Bouknight not to mention the **** talking on this forum about that pick. This happened to a lesser degree with Paolo. The producer for the ringer lost his mind last year saying we got “stuck with Paolo at 1”. Russillo had to call him out on his BS and basically said you didn’t process that situation. I like how WeltHam don’t seem to be burdened by fan reactions because they know it will all work out if we win.

[bigdogdylan5]

I think Keyonte climbs up the mock draft rankings and we end up taking him at 6. There is nothing wrong with his college production and he was the #6 recruit coming into college.

Keyonte is my guy now. The smoothness of his jumper reminds me of someone I will not say. He has playmaking potential and I think the defensive concerns can be corrected. He is exactly what we are missing.

i was watching a scouting video that compares his game to a jamal murray....

He is more Bradley Beal or Ray Allen (at his absolute best best best case). I think a low end comp would be Eric Gordon. Honestly Nick Smith reminds me more of Murray

[j-ragg]

I feel like Walker Kessler’s success last year is making me want Lively with our 11th pick.


On a side note I was Keyonte was a couple inches taller.

[Skybox]

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that's too bad... Was enjoying the unlimited upsides of some of these less obvious picks...reality starting to set in with workouts and interviews overtaking (my) blind optimism about all of these interesting guys - particularly with 2 picks, where we could, ostensibly, pick one relatively safe shooter for need and swing away on a pure upside guy.

[j-ragg]

Might be unpopular but I feel like if I were a GM would I really care if a guy was sucking wind during a workout? It says right there his face up progression is evident… conditioning can easily be improved. Acquiring an offensive skill I would think is more difficult.

[pepe1991]

Wtf supposed to Keytone's strenght?

He shot below 33% FG in 16 out of 32 games he suited up for.
He also is poor decision maker with ball.
He is aslo very poor defender.
He also lacks awarness on both ends.
He also has poor shot selection to go with delusional confidence.
He also isn't some spectacular athlete.

Guy is like Zach Lavine trapped in body of i don't know, Max Strus.

If you are going to burn your 11 pick on such a flawed prospect, rather trade it for some 2028 poorly protected pick and hope for best ,because toady Keyonte George will never see floor on Magic roster, nor any other team with playoff aspirations.

[JoshuaPotter]

Wtf supposed to Keytone's strenght?

He shot below 33% FG in 16 out of 32 games he suited up for.
He also is poor decision maker with ball.
He is aslo very poor defender.
He also lacks awarness on both ends.
He also has poor shot selection to go with delusional confidence.
He also isn't some spectacular athlete.

Guy is like Zach Lavine trapped in body of i don't know, Max Strus.

If you are going to burn your 11 pick on such a flawed prospect, rather trade it for some 2028 poorly protected pick and hope for best ,because toady Keyonte George will never see floor on Magic roster, nor any other team with playoff aspirations.

So a Reece Gaines type prospect?

[bigdogdylan5]

Pepe who do you want?

[Petre1978]

Wtf supposed to Keytone's strenght?

He shot below 33% FG in 16 out of 32 games he suited up for.
He also is poor decision maker with ball.
He is aslo very poor defender.
He also lacks awarness on both ends.
He also has poor shot selection to go with delusional confidence.
He also isn't some spectacular athlete.

Guy is like Zach Lavine trapped in body of i don't know, Max Strus.

If you are going to burn your 11 pick on such a flawed prospect, rather trade it for some 2028 poorly protected pick and hope for best ,because toady Keyonte George will never see floor on Magic roster, nor any other team with playoff aspirations.

So a Reece Gaines type prospect?

[basketballRob]

Wtf supposed to Keytone's strenght?

He shot below 33% FG in 16 out of 32 games he suited up for.
He also is poor decision maker with ball.
He is aslo very poor defender.
He also lacks awarness on both ends.
He also has poor shot selection to go with delusional confidence.
He also isn't some spectacular athlete.

Guy is like Zach Lavine trapped in body of i don't know, Max Strus.

If you are going to burn your 11 pick on such a flawed prospect, rather trade it for some 2028 poorly protected pick and hope for best ,because toady Keyonte George will never see floor on Magic roster, nor any other team with playoff aspirations.

Reminds me of when you told me that Franz will never be as good as Gordon Hayward.

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[eyriq]

Wtf supposed to Keytone's strenght?

He shot below 33% FG in 16 out of 32 games he suited up for.
He also is poor decision maker with ball.
He is aslo very poor defender.
He also lacks awarness on both ends.
He also has poor shot selection to go with delusional confidence.
He also isn't some spectacular athlete.

Guy is like Zach Lavine trapped in body of i don't know, Max Strus.

If you are going to burn your 11 pick on such a flawed prospect, rather trade it for some 2028 poorly protected pick and hope for best ,because toady Keyonte George will never see floor on Magic roster, nor any other team with playoff aspirations.

I get it, he's got some issues and isn't a sure thing by any means. However, to say that he is so flawed that he wouldn't fit into any team with playoff aspirations might be a bit harsh.

Keyonte's numbers do need to be put into context. Comparing his stats with former #1 pick Anthony Edwards, Keyonte actually did pretty well. Despite playing fewer minutes per game, Keyonte's stats hold up in many categories. His 3-point percentage is higher than Edwards' was in his freshman year. He also has higher Offensive Box Plus/Minus, Defensive Box Plus/Minus, and total Box Plus/Minus. His usage rate is slightly higher, indicating a more active role in his team's offense.

Now, this isn't to say Keyonte doesn't have areas to improve. His 2-point percentage is lower than you'd like to see and you've rightly pointed out his decision-making and defense need work. However, these are aspects that can be improved with good coaching and experience in the league.

Remember, players like Zach LaVine struggled initially in their careers too, but with proper development they turned into All-Star players. The key is patience and proper development.

So while it's important to keep expectations realistic, it's equally important not to write off a player too soon. NBA drafts are always a bit of a gamble, but the potential upside with Keyonte could make him a worthwhile investment.

[JoshuaPotter]

nbadraft currently has Amen falling to us.

Wouldn't be mad at that.

[Petre1978]

Don't let his college numbers fool you..this kid can get a bucket from all 3 levels better than any guard in the draft.

I'd bet that this dude is going to pop off and end up being one of the best players from this class.

He's been taking, and making incredibly tough shots since his early high school days wether it's off the dribble, catch & shoot, driving to the rim.

Putting him next to Fultz in the backcourt would be a great fit.
Now if we draft gradey and bring him off the bench, than that would be a very good draft.

[Petre1978]

Wtf supposed to Keytone's strenght?

He shot below 33% FG in 16 out of 32 games he suited up for.
He also is poor decision maker with ball.
He is aslo very poor defender.
He also lacks awarness on both ends.
He also has poor shot selection to go with delusional confidence.
He also isn't some spectacular athlete.

Guy is like Zach Lavine trapped in body of i don't know, Max Strus.

If you are going to burn your 11 pick on such a flawed prospect, rather trade it for some 2028 poorly protected pick and hope for best ,because toady Keyonte George will never see floor on Magic roster, nor any other team with playoff aspirations.

Reminds me of when you told me that Franz will never be as good as Gordon Hayward.

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And 1
You got him.

I like it.

[bigdogdylan5]

Wtf supposed to Keytone's strenght?

He shot below 33% FG in 16 out of 32 games he suited up for.
He also is poor decision maker with ball.
He is aslo very poor defender.
He also lacks awarness on both ends.
He also has poor shot selection to go with delusional confidence.
He also isn't some spectacular athlete.

Guy is like Zach Lavine trapped in body of i don't know, Max Strus.

If you are going to burn your 11 pick on such a flawed prospect, rather trade it for some 2028 poorly protected pick and hope for best ,because toady Keyonte George will never see floor on Magic roster, nor any other team with playoff aspirations.

I get it, he's got some issues and isn't a sure thing by any means. However, to say that he is so flawed that he wouldn't fit into any team with playoff aspirations might be a bit harsh.

Keyonte's numbers do need to be put into context. Comparing his stats with former #1 pick Anthony Edwards, Keyonte actually did pretty well. Despite playing fewer minutes per game, Keyonte's stats hold up in many categories. His 3-point percentage is higher than Edwards' was in his freshman year. He also has higher Offensive Box Plus/Minus, Defensive Box Plus/Minus, and total Box Plus/Minus. His usage rate is slightly higher, indicating a more active role in his team's offense.

Now, this isn't to say Keyonte doesn't have areas to improve. His 2-point percentage is lower than you'd like to see and you've rightly pointed out his decision-making and defense need work. However, these are aspects that can be improved with good coaching and experience in the league.

Remember, players like Zach LaVine struggled initially in their careers too, but with proper development they turned into All-Star players. The key is patience and proper development.

So while it's important to keep expectations realistic, it's equally important not to write off a player too soon. NBA drafts are always a bit of a gamble, but the potential upside with Keyonte could make him a worthwhile investment.

You could pick apart every guy in every draft. I think it’s stupid but you could say Wemby body might be injury prone. We’re drafting 6 and 11 there will not be a perfect prospect there. You could pick apart more than others but I would want to miss taking a swing on a high upside two guard with shooting potential over other skill sets.