2024-2025 Regular Season Game 1: Orlando Magic (0-0) at Miami Heat (0-0) - 7:30pm

[Last Guardian]

I will lighten up on Cole. He had a good floor game and handled the ball well. We really need him to have a decent scoring season though.

I could only watch replays but I listened into the radio while reading here. All 3 paint a bleak picture. Yet, just like Gary Harris had a stellar first game, I imagine the lead scoring will be done by committee.

That being said, on paper, Gary Harris should feast most nights as he is playing against allegedly weaker second units.

Example, while KCP did not have a great shooting night either, I am confident him / Suggs / WCJ / Paoalo / Franz lock down defense won the quarter. Based on Franz / Paolo / Suggs offense, and the team defense, Miami didn't have an answer. This is / was the vision the second we saw KCP be signed.

KCP and Suggs seems unfair. Franz and WCJ are also really good. Paolo looks at least for the first game like he wants to play tough defensively. Then, after all that, you have to deal with JI.

[JoshuaPotter]

I will lighten up on Cole. He had a good floor game and handled the ball well. We really need him to have a decent scoring season though.

I could only watch replays but I listened into the radio while reading here. All 3 paint a bleak picture. Yet, just like Gary Harris had a stellar first game, I imagine the lead scoring will be done by committee.

That being said, on paper, Gary Harris should feast most nights as he is playing against allegedly weaker second units.

Example, while KCP did not have a great shooting night either, I am confident him / Suggs / WCJ / Paoalo / Franz lock down defense won the quarter. Based on Franz / Paolo / Suggs offense, and the team defense, Miami didn't have an answer. This is / was the vision the second we saw KCP be signed.

KCP and Suggs seems unfair. Franz and WCJ are also really good. Paolo looks at least for the first game like he wants to play tough defensively. Then, after all that, you have to deal with JI.

The idea that after that you still have JI, Black, Goga, Harris defensively off the bench must be a nightmare. While Cole Anthony didn't have a great game, in replays I saw him contesting 3 shots that ended up on the highlight reel. His effort seemingly is there even if he is being beaten by taller players on switches.

[Skybox]

There are many good things to point at...but I'm drawn to WCJ rebounding like a real C. 14! 4 on the offensive end!! Paolo with 11/4

We've been a good rebounding team, but it's awful nice to know you've got bigs that can "go fight for one" when you need it...not just Cole grabbing uncontested defensive boards and looking up court (nothing wrong with that, just saying - Cole ain't Dwight when someone else wants it too).

[RichCollab]

I think it’s time we have a conversation around Corey.

He doesn’t seem like an NBA player any longer.





Cut him and sign Fultz?

[eyriq]

I think it’s time we have a conversation around Corey.

He doesn’t seem like an NBA player any longer.





Cut him and sign Fultz?

No way

[JoshuaPotter]

I think it’s time we have a conversation around Corey.

He doesn’t seem like an NBA player any longer.





Cut him and sign Fultz?

You ok Rich?

[Knightro]

I think it’s time we have a conversation around Corey.

He doesn’t seem like an NBA player any longer.

Cut him and sign Fultz?

He's not. But that's not why he's here. He's a culture guy for the young players.

If the Magic are unlucky and suffer multiple injuries to their ball handling guards, they'd go to McClung before Joseph.

[JoshuaPotter]

I think it’s time we have a conversation around Corey.

He doesn’t seem like an NBA player any longer.

Cut him and sign Fultz?

He's not. But that's not why he's here. He's a culture guy for the young players.

If the Magic are unlucky and suffer multiple injuries to their ball handling guards, they'd go to McClung before Joseph.

No offense to anyone quoted, but Fultz I think would want 1st or 2nd string or he is done. I am not sure he would want the attention or lack thereof of 3rd string.

[Braggins]

I only got to see highlights, but you can see the game has slown down for Black. I counted 3 behind the back passes, and while I didn't count, multiple passes where the extra pass got the 3-ball. The ball is moving.

I was flipping back and forth between a couple games so I didn't see 100% of his minutes, but I counted 3 hockey assists for him in the minutes I watched.

[Bergmaniac]

I’m still bothered and confused by that Suggs 3 pointer that was totally taken away from us. I get he stepped out of bounds but if the referee didn’t see it or call it and the other team didn’t challenge it HOW can league office call in and change it in game???? Anybody know if this is a new thing this year? Seems like this could potentially be a Pandora’s box nobody should want. Feels like a butterfly effect, if Suggs technically stepped out of bounds then the clock would have stopped prior to the shot going up. So if after the fact they change it to him stepping out they also have to add time back onto the clock.

It's a rule change and I don't like it. Either the refs see it or they don't. They are either useless and blind, or they are not. Its a partial facet of the game.

It's not a rule change, the refs have been able to take points away for out of bounds after a review at the first stoppage for some years. 2 years ago there was a pretty big controversy when Strus' three was taken away in a playoff Game 7 for being out of bounds after such a review. But also the refs are supposed to only review cases when they "are not reasonably certain" whether the shot was a 2 or a 3 and in Suggs' case his feet was clearly behind the line and the ref was right there and saw it well, so there is definitely some reason for complaining.

I am fine with it, he was out of bounds, but I can see why people are annoyed.

[JoshuaPotter]

I’m still bothered and confused by that Suggs 3 pointer that was totally taken away from us. I get he stepped out of bounds but if the referee didn’t see it or call it and the other team didn’t challenge it HOW can league office call in and change it in game???? Anybody know if this is a new thing this year? Seems like this could potentially be a Pandora’s box nobody should want. Feels like a butterfly effect, if Suggs technically stepped out of bounds then the clock would have stopped prior to the shot going up. So if after the fact they change it to him stepping out they also have to add time back onto the clock.

It's a rule change and I don't like it. Either the refs see it or they don't. They are either useless and blind, or they are not. Its a partial facet of the game.

It's not a rule change, the refs have been able to take points away for out of bounds after a review at the first stoppage for some years. 2 years ago there was a pretty big controversy when Strus' three was taken away in a playoff Game 7 for being out of bounds after such a review. But also the refs are supposed to only review cases when there the refs "are not reasonably certain" whether the shot was a 2 or a 3 and in Suggs' case his feet was clearly behind the line and the ref was right there and saw it this well, so there is definitely some reason for complaining.

I am fine with it, he was out of bounds, but I can see why people are annoyed.

They mentioned that this was a the result of the rule change last season on the radio broadcast, but maybe I misheard? Either way, your explanation is correct. Points taken away.

[RichCollab]

Yeah. We don’t need Fultz!

[eyriq]

Shout out to Mosley, his offensive coaching could be leveling up.

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[Optimus_Steel]

I think it’s time we have a conversation around Corey.

He doesn’t seem like an NBA player any longer.

Cut him and sign Fultz?

He's not. But that's not why he's here. He's a culture guy for the young players.

If the Magic are unlucky and suffer multiple injuries to their ball handling guards, they'd go to McClung before Joseph.

Corey is here for mentorship, championship experience, and veteran steadiness.

[ibraheim718]

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He looks lighter and quicker. He was making decisions faster attacking the defense. And Mosley clearly found some sets that he likes and that those of us that watched him at Duke wanted him to run like foul line elbow post ups and foul line flashes.

Right here right now there aren't many players I would want to start my team with ahead P5.

[UCFJayBird]

Coming in late, but it was a great game last night. Had to watch on a streaming site because i'm technically in the Miami market (i'm in SWFL near Ft Myers and Naples), so it was blacked out on League Pass for me.

Paolo looks insane, Franz looked great despite the early foul trouble. 50% 3-point shooting from both? I don't know if we lose a game on nights they both do that, lol. Great to see Franz have a good night, he needed it for confidence after struggling in preseason. Obviously Harris looked great, classic Harris though, super streaky. We'll see if he can be more consistent, if he can that's huge. Otherwise I'll chalk it up to a great night and hope for another soon, haha. Jalen looked good, made classic Jalen mistakes of playing too aggressively with fouls already. Needs to be smarter when he gets into foul trouble, but otherwise he looked great. That pull up 3 was *chefs kiss*.

KCP struggled offensively and didn't look great, but it's one game so I'll chalk it up to balancing out Harris.

Anthony Black looked great IMO, he's progressed significantly. He's still got a ways to go but you can see glimpses of why we took him so high. Cole looked fine except his shot selection was not good. I know we had a pretty good lead so i'm not surprised he started chucking 3's but he can do better than that.

I wish Jett had gotten more/earlier playing time. But if Harris is shooting lights out Jett won't get in. Coach will go with whoever is playing well.

Overall I love this team, lol. Amped for this season, can't wait for the next one!

[eyriq]

The starting lineup had lots of issues with fouls and still dominated. Upgrading Harris with KCP, along with player development from the core of Suggs, Paolo, and Franz, is going to drive this starting unit to new heights.

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[magicfan217]

The depth this team has is very very good. Look at the other contenders and nobody outside of OKC has built this kind of depth. It's a product of having cap space + high draft picks that continue to improve obviously...but man...this team seems built for the regular season and if our stars continue to take steps to improve this team could be a real force in the playoffs.

Anthony Black is the player after last night that makes me most excited for this team. He is good enough to be starting at 20 years old...the obvious improvement in his game is very encouraging.

This is also an extremely well built roster with an identity...our team plays DEFENSE. From the starters to the reserves there's a common thread on our roster and it ties everything together.

Very exciting being a Magic fan right now!

[Optimus_Steel]

The depth this team has is very very good. Look at the other contenders and nobody outside of OKC has built this kind of depth. It's a product of having cap space + high draft picks that continue to improve obviously...but man...this team seems built for the regular season and if our stars continue to take steps to improve this team could be a real force in the playoffs.

Anthony Black is the player after last night that makes me most excited for this team. He is good enough to be starting at 20 years old...the obvious improvement in his game is very encouraging.

This is also an extremely well built roster with an identity...our team plays DEFENSE. From the starters to the reserves there's a common thread on our roster and it ties everything together.

Very exciting being a Magic fan right now!

This is going to be a fun year. I'm going to get a kick out of seeing teams hating to play us.

[three3d]

It's a rule change and I don't like it. Either the refs see it or they don't. They are either useless and blind, or they are not. Its a partial facet of the game.

It's not a rule change, the refs have been able to take points away for out of bounds after a review at the first stoppage for some years. 2 years ago there was a pretty big controversy when Strus' three was taken away in a playoff Game 7 for being out of bounds after such a review. But also the refs are supposed to only review cases when there the refs "are not reasonably certain" whether the shot was a 2 or a 3 and in Suggs' case his feet was clearly behind the line and the ref was right there and saw it this well, so there is definitely some reason for complaining.

I am fine with it, he was out of bounds, but I can see why people are annoyed.

They mentioned that this was a the result of the rule change last season on the radio broadcast, but maybe I misheard? Either way, your explanation is correct. Points taken away.

My main question is what do they do about the missing game time that would come from changing that call? Let’s say Suggs took that shot 2 seconds after stepping out of bounds and they later reversed the call. Once he steps out of bounds, the game clocked stops, but now we’re potentially missing two seconds. It only takes 08.00 tenths of a second to get a shot up; are we not now missing potentially two seconds of a basketball game that could be important?