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2025 NBA Draft

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Trade both of our picks to move up in the draft
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#721 » by Idiosyncratic » Fri Apr 11, 2025 5:25 pm

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eyriq wrote:Do we like McNeeley?


McNeeley would be a no from me. Even outside of the fit thing I am just not that high on him.

I'm not going to say taking him 16 or 24 or whatever is terrible value for him in a vacuum, but to me he is a project. And a project 3 where we already have Franz, AB and TDS who can play there just feels like it will end up being a waste. That is the kind of player I would much rather just trade the pick than take.

And I could be wrong, maybe he becomes Trey Murphy lite or something, but combination of me just not liking the tape or numbers plus no clear avenue to minutes would make me really apprehensive about taking him.

I think the draft for me is really simplified to take a guard : My order of preference of guards I think we will have a fighter's chance of getting -
Jase/Clayton/Kasparas/Traore/Philon/De Larrea/Fland

And take a big - (someone that can play 4 or 5 or both)
Sorber/Yaxel/Newell/Broome/Bryant/Markovic/Wolf

If you end up with Clayton/Sorber that is a massive win of a draft IMO.

And there's guys on my list where I would prefer a trade than to have them. But if the option was Sexton at 5/90 or something or Clayton at 4/21 plus a vet FA signing like Tyus for 1/10 or something I am picking the Clayton option even though we would be slightly worse next year, future value is just too much better for me. Depends player to player though.


I’ll go one step further.

Players like Broome, Yaxel, Newell etc. (basically anyone that cannot play at NBA Center) won’t be getting minutes here.

This is to suggest Weltman is moving Isaac, which he won’t, and that Paolo isn’t playing 38 mpg. TDS also fills in there at points off the bench.

Carter should be moved, but if Orlando still has 3 Centers, then it makes it even less likely a guy like Sorber is drafted. Whose minutes is he taking? Paolo’s? Isaac’s? Goga? Moe? Carter?

All of this remains to be seen unless Weltman makes a trade for the first time in 4 seasons to make room for some rookie drafted late. Makes no sense.


Broome will only be a C in the NBA IMO, Yaxel likely a small ball C and a 4, Newell is debatable, also probably a project.

I don't disagree with your thought process. It definitely would be clunky if they don't move anybody. I don't know if the rookie would need a ton of minutes, maybe there is enough between our injury prone guys and Mo coming off an ACL, but you definitely have a point there. I do think there's a chance they consider moving one of Goga or Wendell. If they draft a big that could be a decent sign a move like that is coming after the draft.

My idea is to get a cheap replacement who is ready to be a full time rotation guy by the time Goga's contract expires. I'm also working under my belief that Isaac will continue to be extremely unreliable. Wendell is extremely average and best case is whoever they draft could surpass him eventually.

Of course I'm also very on board with them moving one of these picks, but also just considering the very possible reality that that doesn't happen. I think taking a swing at a potential big with upside when our current crop isn't that great isn't a terrible idea. We won't have that many more great chances to add talent in the draft or free agency so I think getting guys in we can go over the cap to extend isn't terrible in theory.

They also could find a quality bench option in the 2nd round, but more so making my argument for taking a Sorber early.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#722 » by Skybox » Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:05 pm

Maybe Maluach will get deported, his draft stock will plummet (to us)...you know there must be some serious Trump donations coming out of the DeVos family - maybe they could make a call? Favors and Rewards are definitely the modus operandi
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#723 » by KillMonger » Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:17 pm

Why would he get....... Never mind

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#724 » by doct3r dr3 » Fri Apr 11, 2025 7:17 pm

Full game links for Walter Clayton, Jr. and Danny Wolf


ImageWalter Clayton, Jr. - (Game log)


11/16/21: vs. Hofstra
11/28/21: vs. Kansas
1/25/22: vs. Siena
2/25/22: vs Canisius
3/3/22: @ Manhattan
3/11/23: vs. Marist [2]
3/17/23: vs. Connecticut
11/22/23: vs. Pittsburgh - (+)
11/24/23: vs. Baylor
11/29/23: @ Wake Forest
12/5/23: vs. Merrimack
12/9/23: vs. Richmond
12/14/23: vs. East Carolina
12/19/23: vs. Michigan
12/22/23: vs. Grambling State
12/30/23: vs. Quinnipiac
1/6/24: vs. Kentucky
1/10/24: @ Ole Miss
1/13/24: vs. Arkansas
1/16/24: @ Tennessee
1/20/24: @ Missouri
1/24/24: vs. Mississippi State
1/27/24: vs. Georgia
1/31/24: @ Kentucky
2/3/24: @ Texas A&M
2/10/24: vs. Auburn
2/13/24: vs. Louisiana State
2/17/24: @ Georgia
2/21/24: @ Alabama
2/24/24: vs. Vanderbilt
2/28/24: vs. Missouri
3/2/24: @ South Carolina
3/5/24: vs. Alabama
3/9/24: @ Vanderbilt
3/14/24: vs. Georgia
3/15/24: vs. Alabama
3/16/24: vs. Texas A&M
3/17/24: vs. Auburn
11/4/24: vs. South Florida
11/15/24 @ Florida State
12/14/24: vs. Arizona State
12/17/24: vs. North Carolina
1/4/25: @ Kentucky
1/7/25: vs. Tennessee
1/11/25: @ Arkansas
1/14/25: vs. Missouri
1/18/25: vs. Texas
1/22/25: @ South Carolina
1/25/25: vs. Georgia
2/1/25: @ Tennessee - (-)
2/8/25: @ Auburn
2/11/25: @ Mississippi State
2/15/25: vs. South Carolina
2/18/25: vs. Oklahoma
2/22/25: @ Louisiana State
2/25/25: @ Georgia
3/1/25: vs. Texas A&M
3/5/25: @ Alabama
3/8/25: vs. Ole Miss
3/14/25: vs. Missouri
3/15/25: vs. Alabama
3/16/25: vs. Tennessee
4/5/25: vs. Auburn
4/7/25: vs. Houston




ImageDanny Wolf - (Game log)



7/8/23: vs. Turkey
7/9/23: vs. Italy - (-)
7/10/23: vs. Belgium
7/12/23: vs. Spain
7/13/23: vs. Germany
7/15/23: vs. Belgium - (+)
7/16/23: vs. France
3/22/24: vs. Auburn
3/24/24: vs. San Diego State
12/10/24: vs. Arkansas




(+) = Best game (by FIC)
(-) = Worst game (by FIC)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#725 » by RookieStar » Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:27 pm

Yeah.. Broome is a C in the NBA. Al Horford type.

Don't think he has the footspeed to chase any of the PFs in the perimeter. That was why I was so curious about his real height. The "monstars" are back in the league after all. 7ft++ Cs are becoming the norm.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#726 » by basketballRob » Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:57 am

It sounds like Clayton wants to stay close to home, and Orlando is right down the road from Lk Wales.

https://youtu.be/wTB1LJLKY3o?si=khNwgIrZja0Kebn-

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#727 » by Skybox » Sat Apr 12, 2025 11:27 am

Presuming we simply use our picks and any trades made only involve existing players and future picks…

At #16, I like: Collin Murray-Boyles (as Isaac replacement), Egor Demin (as Giddey 2.0?), Thomas Sorber (Isaac/WCJ hybrid)

At #23, I like: Nique Clifford, Walter Clayton, Kam Jones

* I understand that some listed might not be available
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#728 » by pepe1991 » Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:16 pm

Skybox wrote:Maybe Maluach will get deported, his draft stock will plummet (to us)...you know there must be some serious Trump donations coming out of the DeVos family - maybe they could make a call? Favors and Rewards are definitely the modus operandi


His best hope for good career is to end up on team like Portland.
If he ends up on team that is wasteland like Nets ... oh boy.

Now when i think about it, Bulls would be solid team for him
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#729 » by Skybox » Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:59 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:Maybe Maluach will get deported, his draft stock will plummet (to us)...you know there must be some serious Trump donations coming out of the DeVos family - maybe they could make a call? Favors and Rewards are definitely the modus operandi


His best hope for good career is to end up on team like Portland.
If he ends up on team that is wasteland like Nets ... oh boy.

Now when i think about it, Bulls would be solid team for him


I don't follow...POR has half of the young C's in the NBA on their roster.

I love the vision of a bigger, faster, badder Goga...blocking 2.5 shots, grabbing 12 rebounds and scoring 8ppg on lobs and putbacks in ORL
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#730 » by pepe1991 » Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:44 pm

Skybox wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:Maybe Maluach will get deported, his draft stock will plummet (to us)...you know there must be some serious Trump donations coming out of the DeVos family - maybe they could make a call? Favors and Rewards are definitely the modus operandi


His best hope for good career is to end up on team like Portland.
If he ends up on team that is wasteland like Nets ... oh boy.

Now when i think about it, Bulls would be solid team for him


I don't follow...POR has half of the young C's in the NBA on their roster.

I love the vision of a bigger, faster, badder Goga...blocking 2.5 shots, grabbing 12 rebounds and scoring 8ppg on lobs and putbacks in ORL


Who?
Ayton is probably goner after 25-26, matter of fact i assume they will just dump him to Nets type of team even this year ( $40M exp money, UFA, probably no desire to sign for less money, hardly ever gives a f*** about basketball ).
Rob Will is retired player who just shows up for 5-15 games until he breaks something and starts new year long rehab.


2,5 blocks, 12 rebounds? We talk about Maluach or Victor? Maluach was worst rebounder and shot blocker than Wendell Carter at college. Guy just exists in vacuum of space and sometimes he can dunk a ball if you give him most perfect pass possible :lol:

If you ask me, i would not even take him with 30th pick :lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#731 » by Skybox » Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:48 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
His best hope for good career is to end up on team like Portland.
If he ends up on team that is wasteland like Nets ... oh boy.

Now when i think about it, Bulls would be solid team for him


I don't follow...POR has half of the young C's in the NBA on their roster.

I love the vision of a bigger, faster, badder Goga...blocking 2.5 shots, grabbing 12 rebounds and scoring 8ppg on lobs and putbacks in ORL


Who?
Ayton is probably goner after 25-26, matter of fact i assume they will just dump him to Nets type of team even this year ( $40M exp money, UFA, probably no desire to sign for less money, hardly ever gives a f*** about basketball ).
Rob Will is retired player who just shows up for 5-15 games until he breaks something and starts new year long rehab.


2,5 blocks, 12 rebounds? We talk about Maluach or Victor? Maluach was worst rebounder and shot blocker than Wendell Carter at college. Guy just exists in vacuum of space and sometimes he can dunk a ball if you give him most perfect pass possible :lol:

If you ask me, i would not even take him with 30th pick :lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#732 » by Skybox » Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:49 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
His best hope for good career is to end up on team like Portland.
If he ends up on team that is wasteland like Nets ... oh boy.

Now when i think about it, Bulls would be solid team for him


I don't follow...POR has half of the young C's in the NBA on their roster.

I love the vision of a bigger, faster, badder Goga...blocking 2.5 shots, grabbing 12 rebounds and scoring 8ppg on lobs and putbacks in ORL


Who?
Ayton is probably goner after 25-26, matter of fact i assume they will just dump him to Nets type of team even this year ( $40M exp money, UFA, probably no desire to sign for less money, hardly ever gives a f*** about basketball ).
Rob Will is retired player who just shows up for 5-15 games until he breaks something and starts new year long rehab.


2,5 blocks, 12 rebounds? We talk about Maluach or Victor? Maluach was worst rebounder and shot blocker than Wendell Carter at college. Guy just exists in vacuum of space and sometimes he can dunk a ball if you give him most perfect pass possible :lol:

If you ask me, i would not even take him with 30th pick :lol:


Donovan Clingan?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#733 » by pepe1991 » Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:56 pm

Skybox wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
I don't follow...POR has half of the young C's in the NBA on their roster.

I love the vision of a bigger, faster, badder Goga...blocking 2.5 shots, grabbing 12 rebounds and scoring 8ppg on lobs and putbacks in ORL


Who?
Ayton is probably goner after 25-26, matter of fact i assume they will just dump him to Nets type of team even this year ( $40M exp money, UFA, probably no desire to sign for less money, hardly ever gives a f*** about basketball ).
Rob Will is retired player who just shows up for 5-15 games until he breaks something and starts new year long rehab.


2,5 blocks, 12 rebounds? We talk about Maluach or Victor? Maluach was worst rebounder and shot blocker than Wendell Carter at college. Guy just exists in vacuum of space and sometimes he can dunk a ball if you give him most perfect pass possible :lol:

If you ask me, i would not even take him with 30th pick :lol:


Donovan Clingan?


Yep. He is only C they have on books after next year.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#734 » by basketballRob » Sat Apr 12, 2025 10:41 pm

I think Essengue will be really good. He's the same age as Flagg.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/noa-essengue-1/gamelog/2025/eurocup/

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#735 » by KillMonger » Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:44 am

Saw something on social, cbssports got Clayton 12th now? Lol what? Went from mid 2nd round to late 1st now he's 12th?

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#736 » by Skybox » Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:09 pm

KillMonger wrote:Saw something on social, cbssports got Clayton 12th now? Lol what? Went from mid 2nd round to late 1st now he's 12th?

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Johnny Davis went 10th…Jett went 11th.

I kind of like Clayton 23rd, but I’d still have doubts…I DO like that he’s another dawg who was offered major football scholarships.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#737 » by RichCollab » Sun Apr 13, 2025 1:52 pm

Skybox wrote:
KillMonger wrote:Saw something on social, cbssports got Clayton 12th now? Lol what? Went from mid 2nd round to late 1st now he's 12th?

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Johnny Davis went 10th…Jett went 11th.

I kind of like Clayton 23rd, but I’d still have doubts…I DO like that he’s another dawg who was offered major football scholarships.


I’m trained to highly discount seniors in draft.

Hope we can package our picks for a player already in the league. We don’t need to hit talent. We need to add to.
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Post#738 » by CZ Eddie » Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:54 pm

We should ask the Miami Heat for their opinion on who we should draft.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft 

Post#739 » by Skybox » Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:20 pm

pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Who?
Ayton is probably goner after 25-26, matter of fact i assume they will just dump him to Nets type of team even this year ( $40M exp money, UFA, probably no desire to sign for less money, hardly ever gives a f*** about basketball ).
Rob Will is retired player who just shows up for 5-15 games until he breaks something and starts new year long rehab.


2,5 blocks, 12 rebounds? We talk about Maluach or Victor? Maluach was worst rebounder and shot blocker than Wendell Carter at college. Guy just exists in vacuum of space and sometimes he can dunk a ball if you give him most perfect pass possible :lol:

If you ask me, i would not even take him with 30th pick :lol:


Donovan Clingan?


Yep. He is only C they have on books after next year.


They sure don't need two 7'+ non-floor spreading monsters with lottery pay scale salaries
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Post#740 » by pepe1991 » Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:43 pm

Skybox wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Donovan Clingan?


Yep. He is only C they have on books after next year.


They sure don't need two 7'+ non-floor spreading monsters with lottery pay scale salaries


They don't really need anything, but will have lottery pick :lol:

They need somebody ( Nets) to get rid of Grant and find suitor for Ayton
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