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2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th

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Your personal preference?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:57 am

Bub Carrington
12
18%
Jared McCain
8
12%
Ja'Kobe Walter
2
3%
Isaiah Collier
0
No votes
Tyler Kolek
1
1%
Tristan Da Silva
19
28%
Johnny Furphy
1
1%
Zach Edey
7
10%
Yves Missi
1
1%
Other, namely...
16
24%
 
Total votes: 67

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#741 » by OnlyFranz22 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:19 am

Bradley Stevens sniping with his last pick hahaha
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#742 » by VFX » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:25 am

**** the Celtics.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#743 » by Skybox » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:30 am

OnlyFranz22 wrote:
SOUL wrote:
OnlyFranz22 wrote:To have the media interview already yea we will not be doing anything else


To be fair this is the one year trading our 2nd makes sense. I don't think there are many stashes and I'd rather fill in our roster holes with free agents.


Shannon Jr is gonna make this whole draft eat crow


Wow…MIN! He’s built like Edwards and he gets downhill like Edwards…not saying he’s Edwards but wow!
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#744 » by OnlyFranz22 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:31 am

Skybox wrote:
OnlyFranz22 wrote:
SOUL wrote:
To be fair this is the one year trading our 2nd makes sense. I don't think there are many stashes and I'd rather fill in our roster holes with free agents.


Shannon Jr is gonna make this whole draft eat crow


Wow…MIN! He’s built like Edwards and he gets downhill like Edwards…not saying he’s Edwards but wow!


And they got Dillingham
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#745 » by Howard Mass » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:33 am

Some players I like if The Magic keep #47.

Tyler Kolek
Antonio Reeves
Juan Nunez
Jaylen Wells
Tyler Smith
Justin Edwards
Adem Bona
Oso Ighodaro
Johnny Furphy
Kyle Flipkowski
Keshad Johnson
Zion Pullin
Tyrese Samuel
R.I.P. Dharam Raghubir (A.K.A. Magnumt)

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#746 » by Skybox » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:33 am

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Bensational wrote:I’m just going off how they’ve been managing guys recently. If we bring back an equally deep team next season, he could have guys in front of him. At that point he could be a great luxury as a 3rd string/G-league call up who’s ready to go. That doesn’t inherently make him the wrong pick or a bad pick, it just means he was drafted into unfortunate circumstances for him.

But what else are they supposed to do, not draft the guy who ticks all the boxes for what they’re looking to add?


YES IT DOES! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here :lol:

If a player gets picked who likely has minimal upside and a huge part of that's appeal as a draft prospect is his ability to step in from day one and contribute, and he doesn't get playing time because of "unfortunate circumstances" - it was the wrong pick!


Agreed.

If they aren’t sold on his ability to come in and start as a guy already older than Franz, then they should have taken someone with upside that they can hide and develop (Jett Howard). If Tristan isn’t getting legitimate minutes next season it was a bad pick.


TDS will step right over Jett on the depth chart …not a knock on Jett and certainly not his upside. This a Jaime Jacquez/ high floor/high BBIQ pick, not a raw project
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#747 » by eyriq » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:34 am

I like these players, too. Remind me of Houstan and Moe.

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#748 » by OrlandoMagic » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:36 am

Just to piss him off id take bronny
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#749 » by Bensational » Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:57 am

Knightro wrote:
Bensational wrote:I’m just going off how they’ve been managing guys recently. If we bring back an equally deep team next season, he could have guys in front of him. At that point he could be a great luxury as a 3rd string/G-league call up who’s ready to go. That doesn’t inherently make him the wrong pick or a bad pick, it just means he was drafted into unfortunate circumstances for him.

But what else are they supposed to do, not draft the guy who ticks all the boxes for what they’re looking to add?


YES IT DOES! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here :lol:

If a player gets picked who likely has minimal upside and a huge part of that's appeal as a draft prospect is his ability to step in from day one and contribute, and he doesn't get playing time because of "unfortunate circumstances" - it was the wrong pick!


I think you’re just looking for any quick excuse to criticise Weltman.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#750 » by RookieStar » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:00 am

Do we even tune in for the 2nd round? Lol
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#751 » by Knightro » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:03 am

Bensational wrote:I think you’re just looking for any quick excuse to criticise Weltman.


I like Da Silva though. I think he's a very high floor player for a team that quite frankly didn't need another teenager, especially after how badly they screwed up with the two kids last year (IMO of course).

I just think this idea of "oh well the roster is so deep, he might not play!" is just garbage. He's 23 years old for goodness sake.

De Silva is literally older than all five lottery picks the Magic have made in the last three drafts - Suggs, Franz, Paolo, Black, Jett.

He has to play immediately, or he simply should not have been picked. Flat out.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#752 » by Nyce_1 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:15 am

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thelead wrote:Knecht is the guy I hope falls to us... so he won't
He probably falls to 17, the Lakers. That has been the Magic story for a long time.

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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#753 » by Ducklett » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:25 am

I dont think we are good enough to be taking high floor no upside picks. Look at MIN trading up to 8. That is the right thing to do.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#754 » by Bensational » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:27 am

Knightro wrote:
Bensational wrote:I think you’re just looking for any quick excuse to criticise Weltman.


I like Da Silva though. I think he's a very high floor player for a team that quite frankly didn't need another teenager, especially after how badly they screwed up with the two kids last year (IMO of course).

I just think this idea of "oh well the roster is so deep, he might not play!" is just garbage. He's 23 years old for goodness sake.

De Silva is literally older than all five lottery picks the Magic have made in the last three drafts - Suggs, Franz, Paolo, Black, Jett.

He has to play immediately, or he simply should not have been picked. Flat out.


Ok, so in order for the pick not to be “wrong”, we aren’t allowed to sign or trade for any FA who might impede on our 23 year old 18th pick. We have to tell Black, Jett and Houstan to put a pause on their development because we’ve got a guy who’s older than them now, and we can’t be wrong about that.

Any player we picked at any age or position might find themselves on the raw end of variables we can’t control or predict right now. Nobody is clearing a path for a 23 year old 18th pick unless he shows he’s worth it.

I would say the more likely approach to this pick is: team guy who’s familiar with the Wagner bros, will work for his minutes but also take a step back when someone else’s number is called. That’s the kind of guys they’ve targeted previously. This is how we’ve handled them previously.

The only reason you think he’d be a wrong pick is because he doesn’t scratch your particular instant gratification itch.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#755 » by Knightro » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:37 am

Ducklett wrote:I dont think we are good enough to be taking high floor no upside picks. Look at MIN trading up to 8. That is the right thing to do.


I mean… isn’t that literally what the Magic did last year?

Picked two high upside freshmen and one of them didn’t play at all and the other barely played only because of injuries.

The Wolves and Magic are in dramatically different places from a roster construction standpoint. The Wolves have a young star in Edwards, but very little ascending youth outside of him.

The Magic have six guys still on their rookie contracts, five of them lotto picks. They need more veterans and high floor players to compliment the youth.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#756 » by OnlyFranz22 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:38 am

TWolves getting Dilly and Shannon is crazy!
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#757 » by Ducklett » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:44 am

Knightro wrote:
Ducklett wrote:I dont think we are good enough to be taking high floor no upside picks. Look at MIN trading up to 8. That is the right thing to do.


I mean… isn’t that literally what the Magic did last year?

Picked two high upside freshmen and one of them didn’t play at all and the other barely played only because of injuries.

The Wolves and Magic are in dramatically different places from a roster construction standpoint. The Wolves have a young star in Edwards, but very little ascending youth outside of him.

The Magic have six guys still on their rookie contracts, five of them lotto picks. They need more veterans and high floor players to compliment the youth.


Sorry. I didn't mean I think the Magic should trade up for 8, I just mean that the Wolves saw a dude that had boundless talent and made a move to get him. Magic picked a dude that isn't a top 5 player that is just old, they picked a meh dude who is old.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#758 » by SOUL » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:07 am

Ducklett wrote:I dont think we are good enough to be taking high floor no upside picks. Look at MIN trading up to 8. That is the right thing to do.


Safe high upside guys don't really exist at 18. At least easily identifiable ones.

At our stage in the rebuild, we're not the Wizards, Hornets, Pistons, etc. We have our #1 and #2 guys, at least for now, and we need to get talent around them that will realize their talent. No point in throwing picks away on guys who aren't ready and won't play while already having guys who were rated higher in a better draft also waiting. And if Paolo and Franz (and Suggs) aren't our guys, well, that's another issue in itself, but that talent can also be found in FA and trades. Not from your 18th pick rookie on a team filled with 5-6 other high upside young guys.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#759 » by pepe1991 » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:12 am

I slept through whole draft and oh boy it's an awkward one :lol:

Seems like i was right about 1# & 2# pick despite all the smoke screens.

Holland going to Pistons is such an awkward decision imo. They have Ausar, Cade, Ivey and they just continue to add this tall ballhandlers who are not good enough to be PGs and can't play without ball.

Why execlly Blazers drafted center?

Edey going 9th wtf?

ofc Topić was picked by OKC.

Knicks drafting two 6'8- 18 years old back to back makes you wonder how many nba teams are drinking that Ujiri 6'8- philosophy ( and even better question- why? ).

8th pick being traded for picks that won't convert in 6 and 7 years was kind a hilarous, tells you a lot about perception of this draft.


I don't have any strong feelings about Magic pick & Da Silva. Given his age he should probaby at least be in nba, not G league.
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Re: 2024 NBA Draft night open thread, round 1, June 26th 

Post#760 » by SOUL » Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:27 am

pepe1991 wrote:I slept through whole draft and oh boy it's an awkward one :lol:

Seems like i was right about 1# & 2# pick despite all the smoke screens.

Holland going to Pistons is such an awkward decision imo. They have Ausar, Cade, Ivey and they just continue to add this tall ballhandlers who are not good enough to be PGs and can't play without ball.

Why execlly Blazers drafted center?

Edey going 9th wtf?

ofc Topić was picked by OKC.

Knicks drafting two 6'8- 18 years old back to back makes you wonder how many nba teams are drinking that Ujiri 6'8- philosophy ( and even better question- why? ).

8th pick being traded for picks that won't convert in 6 and 7 years was kind a hilarous, tells you a lot about perception of this draft.


I don't have any strong feelings about Magic pick & Da Silva. Given his age he should probaby at least be in nba, not G league.


- Agree on Pistons

- Ayton isn't a winner, if you can build around defensive center that can hold down the paint and finish lobs, seems like a easier skillset than Ayton to build around

- Edey is biggest mystery in the class and will decide how these throwback centers with good stats do in the NBA in the future. Not sure if it'll work out but maybe worth it?

- Topic's talent I really like... not sure where I see the fit with SGA, Cason, Caruso, Dort.. maybe they move on from one next year.

- Knicks picks are fine since they are hardcore competing. Nobody they pick will get Thibs minutes anyway, why not wait a few years

- Think da Silva will slot in easily for at least 15-20 minutes rookie year, should be intention at least as backup wing
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