Knightro wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Clippers traded Norman Powell two weeks before Beal was officially bought out, knowing it's going down.
Knightro you keep telling what WIzards got for Smart. Why does it matter? I'll answer for you. It doesn't. Because Smart being bought out is anti-sportmenship move from compeating POV. They moved him to get worst, because they need to suck to save pick.
Lakers added established player, again, AT AGE OF 31 , for N.O.T.H.I.N.G.
He wasn't FA. Other teams never had chance to "pitch " him anything, he got bought out and signed with Lakers later on same day.
And for 1.5 of those seasons he was on Memphis who absolutely was trying to win and wanted him to play.
This simply isn't true tho.
On start of a season (2023-24) they lost 9 out of 11 games. He got hurt. By the time he returned ,they were already out of playoff picture on West. (9-19), but with him they started to win bit too much ( 5-4) , so naturally, once he got hurt again, they kept him for rest of a year.
After that, they went 13-32.
Grizzlies dumped him next year ( after going 12-7 with him) because they needed salary relief. Guess who won't need salary relief and will still have Smart , on silly salary?
Those moves are outside of relm of CBA. Both moves were orchestrated outside of nba rules and done either weeks in advance or in matter of hours because they were planned by player and handpicked team before they were executed. Even Billy King wouldn't trade Powell for Collins without being sure Beal is on a way.
Tide, do you know how many allstars on all star game 2025 were 30 or older? 10. And Beal and Smart are 31.
To me, whole thing is just another sleazy favor for big market teams and how they can get their hands on talent for free. Because poverty franchizes are fishing for Cole Anthony were luxury one gets multi times allstars and DPOY for ...literally nothing.
You just don't know what you're talking about really, man.
The Grizzlies traded TWO first round picks to acquire Marcus Smart who had 2 years and over 40M left on his contract because they thought he could help them win games more than Tyus Jones could. That is an indisputable fact. They were coming off a season where they won 51 games and were the 2 seed in the Western Conference.
The fact that their season went off the rails before it ever started because Morant got himself suspended for the first 25 games for flashing a gun doesn't mean that their intention wasn't to win basketball games that season before it began.
Morant ended up missing 73 games. Bane ended up missing 40 games. Smart and Morant played a grand total of 6 games together and they had a +1.7 NET rating as a pair, which was the best on their entire team.
The Wizards took on a player's contract that they knew they didn't want and in the end came away with four draft picks in the process. They essentially rented $14M worth of cap space for a year for a first round pick and three second round picks.
And we have people complaining about the integrity of the game? Just pure silliness.
Point you try to make literally means nothing in context of buyout and why it's shady.
You keep bringing up Smart in context of what Grizzlies gave away and Wizards gain. To me it's simply irrelevant because it has nothing to do with buyout and his final destination- Lakers.
Those two moves are as relevant to each other as Dwight for Franz "trade". One thing is, by very loose end connected to other, but not really.
The Grizzlies traded TWO first round picks to acquire Marcus Smart who had 2 years and over 40M left on his contract because they thought he could help them win games more than Tyus Jones could. That is an indisputable fact. They were coming off a season where they won 51 games and were the 2 seed in the Western Conference.
Jones, 25th pick from 2023 and 18th pick from 2025. ( Picks turned into Sasser and Clayton ).
But irrelevant for topic of buyout.
Morant ended up missing 73 games. Bane ended up missing 40 games. Smart and Morant played a grand total of 6 games together and they had a +1.7 NET rating as a pair, which was the best on their entire team.
Still irrelevant for buyout and how Lakers got him. Grizzlies ended up dumping him because of salary issues. Guess who won't have his salary issues since it will only cost them 3% of cap?
The Wizards took on a player's contract that they knew they didn't want and in the end came away with four draft picks in the process. They essentially rented $14M worth of cap space for a year for a first round pick and three second round picks.
Even more irrelevant for buyout. It actually hurts integrity of a sport, since Smart is better at basketball than about 95% of Wizards roster. But you do you.
You are doing masterful job dancing to avoid honesty and answering two very simple questions:
1) What does previous Smart trades have to do with fact Lakers got him for nothing?
2) Why don't you find logic behind Beal buyout and how Clippers could possibly know about buyout, as they were preparing space via trades, two weeks before buyout happened?
Since everybody with IQ over 70 can answer both questions:
1) nothing
2) because it was planned and agreed upon before it happened, so it allowed Clippers to make a trade, open guard spot, and get better. By doing so, they are cheating CBA , avoiding FA and getting better costed them nothing. Just like getting better costed Lakers- nothing.
But keep telling me how Wizards got "multiple picks" from previous trades
btw that epic "three picks " that you kept repeating about:
Wizards traded 18th pick ( one they got for Smart, drafted Clayton) for 21st pick (Riley) and some dude named Jamir Watkins, who is 24 + another second round pick. Tbh i can't even find witch one.
The haul.From start to finish my point is same , and you continue to try to dance around like a stripper on a pool about irrelevant arguments and trades that led to buyout. (ofc, only Smart).
Hypotheses - did two LA teams got better by collecting previous star players for
nothing, avoided FA, paid friction of their salary and never had to lose any asset to get those players?
*checks notes* - Brad Beal on Clippers, Smart on Lakers. Both on 3% of salary cap. Both still in playing prime and just 31.
Final conclusions: Yes. Both LA based team got better for free.
But hey, "i don't know what i'm talking about". I'll let Knightro takes me back to June of 2023 to tell me how it all makes sense
Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. -John Lennon