2013 Orlando Summer League (July 7 - July 12)

[Nyce_1]

This has probably been discussed but theres 52 pages (gimme a break). Where can I get tickets to the summer league games? I can probably just show up to the Amway Center right?

it's not open to the public. You can only watch the games via NBAtv, the summer league app that charges $15 for all the games in Orlando and Vegas, or if you're lucky enough to know someone in the organization, they can invite you to Amway.

[Nyce_1]

what happened to matthew dellavedova I thought he was on our SL team?

he signed a partial guaranteed contract with the Cavaliers on June 30th

Damn that sucks. I was really looking forward to watching him play. Still gonna keep my eye on him in Vegas.

[magictime09]

This has probably been discussed but theres 52 pages (gimme a break). Where can I get tickets to the summer league games? I can probably just show up to the Amway Center right?

it's not open to the public. You can only watch the games via NBAtv, the summer league app that charges $15 for all the games in Orlando and Vegas, or if you're lucky enough to know someone in the organization, they can invite you to Amway.

$hitty. Thanks for the info though!

[pogiro]

My issue with both sides is the absolute nature of the statements. Fine if you (general you, not you in particular) want to point out a weakness, but many people were using game one in the summer league as definitive proof of their point. It's lunacy.

If game one mattered at all (and really it doesn't) I could say, with a straight face, that Oladipo did a better job playing PG than either MCW or Trey Burke. But it doesn't mean he's a better PG (at least not today).

Right, breaking down what happens is one thing... saying SEE, HE CAN'T PLAY PG BECAUSE HE TURNED THE BALL OVER ZOMG, is another. That gets back to my absolutes comment. Dipo has a number of things he would need to improve if he is going to be our PG. Can he? Maybe. We'll see how it goes.

Can you let me know when enough time has passed so that I can have an opinion? I'll just repost the posts I made today. Thanks.

[Neon1]

Right, breaking down what happens is one thing... saying SEE, HE CAN'T PLAY PG BECAUSE HE TURNED THE BALL OVER ZOMG, is another. That gets back to my absolutes comment. Dipo has a number of things he would need to improve if he is going to be our PG. Can he? Maybe. We'll see how it goes.

Can you let me know when enough time has passed so that I can have an opinion? I'll just repost the posts I made today. Thanks.

[CPBalla2003 n da 863]

Figured I'll post these after every game since we are running Oladipo at the Point, and this is 2008 summer league stats on Westbrook, not that I'm trying to compare the two, but, it's in relation to the experiment that they try to run him at PG as well.

Westbrook Game 1: 31 mins, 7/13 FG, 1/3 3 PT 18 points, 4 reb, 1 stl, 5 ast, 1 to
Oladipo Game 1: 33 mins, 5/13 FG, 2/3 3 PT, 18 points, 7 reb, 5 stls, 7 ast, 6 tos

http://www.nba.com/media/magic/Game_1_Box_Score.pdf

This is for some food for thought really, take a look guys.

[fendilim]

Can anyone who record the Magic game, post it on youtube? please... Was able to catch the 1st half only.

[MagicStarwipe]

I thought Dipo looked great overall. Impressive debut.

[doct3r dr3]

I'm feeling pretty good about having picked Olynyk at #24 in our mock draft a couple weeks back.

[OrlandO]

I predict Olynyk won't have such a great game tomorrow... whoever's guarding him must have better D than Nicholson.

[OrlDave]

My issue with both sides is the absolute nature of the statements. Fine if you (general you, not you in particular) want to point out a weakness, but many people were using game one in the summer league as definitive proof of their point. It's lunacy.

If game one mattered at all (and really it doesn't) I could say, with a straight face, that Oladipo did a better job playing PG than either MCW or Trey Burke. But it doesn't mean he's a better PG (at least not today).

Right, breaking down what happens is one thing... saying SEE, HE CAN'T PLAY PG BECAUSE HE TURNED THE BALL OVER ZOMG, is another. That gets back to my absolutes comment. Dipo has a number of things he would need to improve if he is going to be our PG. Can he? Maybe. We'll see how it goes.

Can you let me know when enough time has passed so that I can have an opinion? I'll just repost the posts I made today. Thanks.

Do whatever you want man. Make up your mind after one SL game... it's your prerogative. On the bright side, since your opinions will never change, no sense reposting them.

[RookieStar]

I predict Olynyk won't have such a great game tomorrow... whoever's guarding him must have better D than Nicholson.

While I'm a fan of Oly after seeing him play, I sadly have to agree with this. I think it was just because AN was guarding him that he became an offensive juggernaut.

[pogiro]

Do whatever you want man. Make up your mind after one SL game... it's your prerogative. On the bright side, since your opinions will never change, no sense reposting them.

Oh I do whatever I want. But there's a lot of people on this board who really don't think before arguing and just echo the "it's only been one SL game" and "it's too early to know anything" mantra.

All I said was that I've seen enough of Oladipo at PG. He's not our answer there. We should put him back at SG where he can excel and develop more effectively. Basically, do you want a possibly good PG, or an elite SG? I want the elite SG.

I think that is a reasonable opinion "after one SL game" (forgetting the fact he played SG in college, projected as a SG in the NBA, and did not really have much in his pre-draft scouting reports that hint that he can be a good PG).

[Optimus_Steel]

No one has mentioned that Hark passed the ball very well today.

[G-Heel]

Do whatever you want man. Make up your mind after one SL game... it's your prerogative. On the bright side, since your opinions will never change, no sense reposting them.

Oh I do whatever I want. But there's a lot of people on this board who really don't think before arguing and just echo the "it's only been one SL game" and "it's too early to know anything" mantra.

All I said was that I've seen enough of Oladipo at PG. He's not our answer there. We should put him back at SG where he can excel and develop more effectively. Basically, do you want a possibly good PG, or an elite SG? I want the elite SG.

I think that is a reasonable opinion "after one SL game" (forgetting the fact he played SG in college, projected as a SG in the NBA, and did not really have much in his pre-draft scouting reports that hint that he can be a good PG).

I think the issue is that you think playing Dipo at PG will stunt his growth at SG. That is definitely not the case. Lebron played PG for Cavs a good amount, and he still turned into an elite SF. Durant played SG his 1st season and now he's an elite SF. George played SG his first 2 seasons, and this season he is an allstar SF. Wade played point for Miami a lot initially, he still turned into an elite SG.

Do you see what I'm trying to say? It's fine to say Dipo isn't the answer at PG, I might even agree with you, but saying that it'll negatively affect his game is stupid and baseless. ESPECIALLY when it's the summer league, c'mon bro! He's developing his handle right now, and that will only help his game in the future.

[OrlDave]

Do whatever you want man. Make up your mind after one SL game... it's your prerogative. On the bright side, since your opinions will never change, no sense reposting them.

Oh I do whatever I want. But there's a lot of people on this board who really don't think before arguing and just echo the "it's only been one SL game" and "it's too early to know anything" mantra.

All I said was that I've seen enough of Oladipo at PG. He's not our answer there. We should put him back at SG where he can excel and develop more effectively. Basically, do you want a possibly good PG, or an elite SG? I want the elite SG.

I think that is a reasonable opinion "after one SL game" (forgetting the fact he played SG in college, projected as a SG in the NBA, and did not really have much in his pre-draft scouting reports that hint that he can be a good PG).

Well, it is, in fact, just one summer league game. You've seen him play exactly... what? 25 minutes at PG? You want him at SG, so you have a biased point of view. I don't really care. Wherever he can excel is fine with me. I'm willing to see how he does at PG. Worst case it gives him the confidence to play PG in spurts during the regular season. Or to handle the ball during presses ect.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Figured I'll post these after every game since we are running Oladipo at the Point, and this is 2008 summer league stats on Westbrook, not that I'm trying to compare the two, but, it's in relation to the experiment that they try to run him at PG as well.

Westbrook Game 1: 31 mins, 7/13 FG, 1/3 3 PT 18 points, 4 reb, 1 stl, 5 ast, 1 to
Oladipo Game 1: 33 mins, 5/13 FG, 2/3 3 PT, 18 points, 7 reb, 5 stls, 7 ast, 6 tos

http://www.nba.com/media/magic/Game_1_Box_Score.pdf

This is for some food for thought really, take a look guys.

So because Vic posted simar numbers to Westbrook it means he's going to be as good as Westbrook? This isn't food for thought IMO , this is a small sample size of a meaningless game against mostly rookies and undrafted players.

[pogiro]

Well, it is, in fact, just one summer league game. You've seen him play exactly... what? 25 minutes at PG? You want him at SG, so you have a biased point of view. I don't really care. Wherever he can excel is fine with me. I'm willing to see how he does at PG. Worst case it gives him the confidence to play PG in spurts during the regular season. Or to handle the ball during presses ect.

Jeez. You guys. You say you don't care, but you're one of many that keeps attacking the credibility of my opinion, rather than arguing against my opinion. I think I've had only one decent discussion with Neon who didn't agree with me giving up on Oladipo at PG. His opinion made sense and wasn't full of the garbage y'all are pushing. The rest of y'all just want to tell me that I'm thinking wrong. Then you go off saying you don't care. Of course you don't care, it's not your opinion being attacked.

I know I'm overreacting and have spent way too much time on this today. But it's just damn annoying. Watch the game, form an opinion, discuss your opinion. Why turn the talk into an argument about bias, impatience and pessimism?

[BaunceyChillups]

What is wrong with some of you people.

Oladipo is playing at point for 2 reasons and 2 reasons only.

1) Protect the tank.
2) Give him reps working screens and handling pressure on the ball which is stuff he'll need as a 2 but needs work on

[I Rasharted]

A little late, but in honor of today's major, major win:

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