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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#781 » by Bensational » Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:15 am

Def Swami wrote:The fact that Exum only has workouts scheduled with the Bucks, Sixers, and Magic makes me think we've given indication to his agent that we'll take Exum if he's there. Same applies for Wiggins only working out for the Cavs, Bucks, and Sixers; he doesn't plan to fall past Philly. And both fall in line with what we've heard for the past year. I think everything else is just posturing.

Victor Oladipo did something similar last year by snubbing the Wizards for a workout. Makes me think we gave him indication that we'd take him if he was available at #2.
Although Oladipo has no control over which team chooses him, the Upper Marlboro native made it clear to the Wizards that he had no desire to begin his career with a team that already has its back court set with point guard John Wall and shooting guard Bradley Beal. Oladipo declined the Wizards’ requests for a workout at Verizon Center but offered them a chance to watch him run through drills in Bowie. The Wizards didn’t bother to visit as Minnesota and New Orleans had done.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... elsewhere/
I don't recall Oladipo visiting the Bobcats either.


what a punk attitude. now that we know how high on himself Dipo is, we should all start rooting for him to fail.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#782 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:17 am

Bensational wrote:
Def Swami wrote:The fact that Exum only has workouts scheduled with the Bucks, Sixers, and Magic makes me think we've given indication to his agent that we'll take Exum if he's there. Same applies for Wiggins only working out for the Cavs, Bucks, and Sixers; he doesn't plan to fall past Philly. And both fall in line with what we've heard for the past year. I think everything else is just posturing.

Victor Oladipo did something similar last year by snubbing the Wizards for a workout. Makes me think we gave him indication that we'd take him if he was available at #2.
Although Oladipo has no control over which team chooses him, the Upper Marlboro native made it clear to the Wizards that he had no desire to begin his career with a team that already has its back court set with point guard John Wall and shooting guard Bradley Beal. Oladipo declined the Wizards’ requests for a workout at Verizon Center but offered them a chance to watch him run through drills in Bowie. The Wizards didn’t bother to visit as Minnesota and New Orleans had done.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... elsewhere/
I don't recall Oladipo visiting the Bobcats either.


what a punk attitude. now that we know how high on himself Dipo is, we should all start rooting for him to fail.


maybe a player doesnt like the FO of a team and doing what they are allowed to do to stay away from them. Happens in every sport.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#783 » by thelead » Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:27 am

tiderulz wrote:
Bensational wrote:
Def Swami wrote:The fact that Exum only has workouts scheduled with the Bucks, Sixers, and Magic makes me think we've given indication to his agent that we'll take Exum if he's there. Same applies for Wiggins only working out for the Cavs, Bucks, and Sixers; he doesn't plan to fall past Philly. And both fall in line with what we've heard for the past year. I think everything else is just posturing.

Victor Oladipo did something similar last year by snubbing the Wizards for a workout. Makes me think we gave him indication that we'd take him if he was available at #2.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wiz ... elsewhere/
I don't recall Oladipo visiting the Bobcats either.


what a punk attitude. now that we know how high on himself Dipo is, we should all start rooting for him to fail.


maybe a player doesnt like the FO of a team and doing what they are allowed to do to stay away from them. Happens in every sport.


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#785 » by Smooth_E » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:33 pm

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http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2014/6/7/5781598/2014-nba-draft-scouting-report-andrew-wiggins-joel-embiid-orlando-magic

Dante Exum

Height: 6-foot-6
Weight: 196 pounds
Wingspan: 6-foot-9.5

I haven't written a ton about Exum because I just haven't seen him play in enough meaningful games. Luckily, Magic general manager Rob Hennigan has, and if he's impressed, then that's enough to convince me that Exum is worth one of the top picks. Here's the most basic scouting report I can give of the Australian youngster:

Strengths

Size: He measured slightly taller and two inches longer than Michael Carter-Williams, the Philadelphia 76ers' athletic and huge Rookie-of-the-Year point guard. Even if Exum isn't a point guard, then he still has an impressive frame for shooting guard.

Athleticism: Exum didn't register an overwhelming max vertical (34.5 inches) at the Draft Combine, but he was lighting-quick in the agility drills and he dominated the shuttle drill. That matters because it tells me that he has all the physical tools to at least develop into a good defender.

Slashing: He's big with a super-fast first step which means that he should be able to get past his initial defender. This skill creates all kinds of trouble for the defense because it forces help-side defenders to respond and opens up shooters all over the floor. In theory, he should be able to create easy opportunities for his teammates, assuming he has the ability to make the pass.

Defensive potential: Size plus lateral quickness equals the opportunity to develop into a good defender. I honestly don't know how he is on that end of the floor because I haven't seen him play enough to really get a gauge. But the tools are there to become a plus on defense.


Weaknesses

Body strength: He's wiry thin and this means that it'll be difficult for Exum to finish against NBA defenders, at least at first. I don't believe this issue will be a major one once working out is his full-time job and he begins to develop his man strength, which is a real thing, I promise!

Shooting: The latest stats I can find showed that he was a poor (61 percent) free-throw shooter, which simply has to improve. I tend to believe that free-throw shooting is the biggest indicator of a player's ability to improve as a shooter, so that 61 percent mark bodes ill. Luckily, he's had a lot of time between recording those stats and the Draft to improve.

His spot-up shooting is encouraging and I like his mechanics, as he's smooth and balanced when he sets his feet to shoot. But he really struggled shooting off the dribble--19 percent, per DraftExpress.

Point-guard skills: If Exum is the lead guard, then he should be able to run an offense by taking care of the ball and putting his teammates in the best positions to score. Can he do that? I just really don't know. I know it feels like a cop out, but I don't because I didn't watch him play enough full games to make an informed assertion. It seems like he has the physical tools to be a playmaker and from everything I've read, he doesn't seem selfish. But I really don't know.

Potential fit in Orlando: Oladipo and Exum could work in a modern, two-guard lineup, an offensive set that Orlando used a lot in the 2013/14 season. The two could work to relieve ballhandling pressure off one another. Defense is where they'd thrive. The combo would be super long, athletic, and able to handle any type of cross-matching.

The issue here is shooting. If both backcourt players are poor long-range shooters then it'll absolutely kill the team's spacing. That was already an issue in 2013/14, and if neither Exum nor Oladipo can command respect from deep, then teams will cramp the lane and invite them to launch jumpers. That alignment, in turn, cancels out any athletic advantage that the pair might have. If one player--or even better, both--can become a consistent jump shooter, then the pairing will work well. If not, it could really be a disaster.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#786 » by Smooth_E » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:47 pm

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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#787 » by drsd » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:59 pm

Smooth_E wrote:#DraftDante


Only 13 more days until Orlando drafts Mr. Exum.


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#788 » by Smooth_E » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:30 pm

drsd wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:#DraftDante


Only 13 more days until Orlando drafts Mr. Exum.


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I sure hope so. I'll say this: I don't care if he's not as ready to contribute as Marcus Smart, I believe in his potential and I will wait until he reaches it. It's worth it.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#789 » by Def Swami » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:19 pm

If we do draft Exum, we'll get to see him twice this summer. Once in summer league and another time during FIBA.
Later this summer at the FIBA Basketball World Cup in Spain, the Australian national team will feature Mills, Baynes, Dellavedova, Exum, Andrew Bogut (the Golden State Warriors' starting center), Simmons (a top high school prospect going to LSU) and Australian stars Joe Ingles, Nathan Jawai and Andrew Ogilvy.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2092 ... st-a-start
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#790 » by Melvinlocker » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:41 pm

Def Swami wrote:If we do draft Exum, we'll get to see him twice this summer. Once in summer league and another time during FIBA.
Later this summer at the FIBA Basketball World Cup in Spain, the Australian national team will feature Mills, Baynes, Dellavedova, Exum, Andrew Bogut (the Golden State Warriors' starting center), Simmons (a top high school prospect going to LSU) and Australian stars Joe Ingles, Nathan Jawai and Andrew Ogilvy.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2092 ... st-a-start


That team looks like it could go places. Will be exciting to see how they perform as a team, not to mention seeing one of our potential prospects play.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#791 » by Def Swami » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:44 pm

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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#792 » by Nyce_1 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:50 pm

stole this from the Bucks board:

Exum isn't a potential All-Star? Here is Australian NT teammate (and future NBA player) Joe Ingles on Exum:

Do you think one NCAA semester could hurt Exum's stock?

"Going to the NCAA for one semester will not hurt his stock. People don't realize that Dante is just a kid. He still looks likes a kid and acts like one too, but he's a special kid. He's got plenty of options and can pick from basically any college program. He can also choose to sit out for a year and still be a top five draft pick. Whatever he does he will be a NBA superstar because he has the work ethic."

What impressed you most about Exum?

"His work ethic. Dante is very talented. He's quick, fast and plays great defense. Shooting is probably his biggest weakness at the moment, but I've seen him in the gym before and after every practice for 30-45 minutes just working on his shots. He's going to continue to improve because he has the work ethic it takes to become a great player."


Here is shooting coach David Nurse tearing up Exum's jumpshot, but concluding that he'll be a star:

It’s easy to see why NBA execs and GM’s get more excited than a contestant on the Price is Right when you look into the crystal ball of his potential and skill set. Exum is extremely smooth and fluid with unbelievable body control, allowing him to dissect defenses by getting into the lane at ease in the flow of the offense and weaving in and out of defenders like a Porsche in the open court.

His ability to get out in transition and speed with the ball in his hands is top 10 in the NBA right now. There are a lot of players with great speed, but Exum’s ability to cultivate that speed with the ball in his hands is what makes him so dynamic in the open floor. If his world-class speed wasn’t enough, Exum is able to shift gears and change speeds very effectively making him an extremely tough player to defend in transition.

The toughest players to defend aren’t always the quickest and most athletic players, it is the players who are able to constantly change speeds and always put pressure on the defense. This is where Exum’s personal analysis of himself really does draw comparisons to Manu Ginobli; shifty and unassuming.

A great skill set ability that more NBA players need to realize the importance of – deceptiveness. Exum has harnessed this skill set at young age and with his high level ball control and natural feel for the game, he is able to utilize this craft to create for his teammates. Hence, why I have labeled him as neither a point guard or a two-guard, but instead simply as a playmaker.

All of these weapons in Exum’s arsenal are great and extremely tantalizing to an NBA franchise. And I haven’t even mentioned his explosive first step, rebounding range for a guard, and ability to draw fouls at the rim.

But the single most telling factor of why I am convinced that a player this skilled but still less seen to the public than a UFO sighting in a cornfield will be highly successful at the next level is his basketball IQ and maturity. Maturity and 18-year-old kid are not often seen in the same sentence or anywhere close for that matter. But that is not the case for Exum. He is mature beyond his years and has a basketball IQ and natural feel for the game that makes it appear like he was born to play basketball. Well, I guess he was.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#793 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:57 pm

thelead wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Bensational wrote:
what a punk attitude. now that we know how high on himself Dipo is, we should all start rooting for him to fail.


maybe a player doesnt like the FO of a team and doing what they are allowed to do to stay away from them. Happens in every sport.


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#794 » by cedric76 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:01 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:stole this from the Bucks board:

Exum isn't a potential All-Star? Here is Australian NT teammate (and future NBA player) Joe Ingles on Exum:

Do you think one NCAA semester could hurt Exum's stock?

"Going to the NCAA for one semester will not hurt his stock. People don't realize that Dante is just a kid. He still looks likes a kid and acts like one too, but he's a special kid. He's got plenty of options and can pick from basically any college program. He can also choose to sit out for a year and still be a top five draft pick. Whatever he does he will be a NBA superstar because he has the work ethic."

What impressed you most about Exum?

"His work ethic. Dante is very talented. He's quick, fast and plays great defense. Shooting is probably his biggest weakness at the moment, but I've seen him in the gym before and after every practice for 30-45 minutes just working on his shots. He's going to continue to improve because he has the work ethic it takes to become a great player."


Here is shooting coach David Nurse tearing up Exum's jumpshot, but concluding that he'll be a star:

It’s easy to see why NBA execs and GM’s get more excited than a contestant on the Price is Right when you look into the crystal ball of his potential and skill set. Exum is extremely smooth and fluid with unbelievable body control, allowing him to dissect defenses by getting into the lane at ease in the flow of the offense and weaving in and out of defenders like a Porsche in the open court.

His ability to get out in transition and speed with the ball in his hands is top 10 in the NBA right now. There are a lot of players with great speed, but Exum’s ability to cultivate that speed with the ball in his hands is what makes him so dynamic in the open floor. If his world-class speed wasn’t enough, Exum is able to shift gears and change speeds very effectively making him an extremely tough player to defend in transition.

The toughest players to defend aren’t always the quickest and most athletic players, it is the players who are able to constantly change speeds and always put pressure on the defense. This is where Exum’s personal analysis of himself really does draw comparisons to Manu Ginobli; shifty and unassuming.

A great skill set ability that more NBA players need to realize the importance of – deceptiveness. Exum has harnessed this skill set at young age and with his high level ball control and natural feel for the game, he is able to utilize this craft to create for his teammates. Hence, why I have labeled him as neither a point guard or a two-guard, but instead simply as a playmaker.

All of these weapons in Exum’s arsenal are great and extremely tantalizing to an NBA franchise. And I haven’t even mentioned his explosive first step, rebounding range for a guard, and ability to draw fouls at the rim.

But the single most telling factor of why I am convinced that a player this skilled but still less seen to the public than a UFO sighting in a cornfield will be highly successful at the next level is his basketball IQ and maturity. Maturity and 18-year-old kid are not often seen in the same sentence or anywhere close for that matter. But that is not the case for Exum. He is mature beyond his years and has a basketball IQ and natural feel for the game that makes it appear like he was born to play basketball. Well, I guess he was.


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#795 » by Nyce_1 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:59 pm

- Don’t write Dante Exum out of the picture in Orlando just yet, but this week’s Mock does put Marcus Smart in Orlando at the number four spot. The Magic are very high on Smart, mainly because he is a ready to play player they feel can really shore up their defense. Exum is scheduled to meet with the Magic next week and that may change the thinking. The Magic have had Smart in for two visits already, with some saying there were unanswered questions from the first visit, hence the second visit.
Exum has scheduled just three workouts at this point – Milwaukee, Philadelphia and Orlando. He is not expected to work out for anyone outside the top four.
Smart seems to be the front runner at this point, only because Orlando has not seen Exum up close yet. So its far from decided at number four, with sources saying Exum would not have come in to Orlando if they had not assured him he was a viable candidate at number four.

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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#796 » by Nyce_1 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:03 pm

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Dante Exum will work out with Milwaukee over the weekend and for Orlando early next week, per source.
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Post#797 » by RYgoBOOM » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:09 pm

I'm all aboard the Exum train if Henny backs it. We've done the most research out of anyone on him so if anyone knows what he can do, it's Rob.

Exum/Nelson
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#798 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:36 pm

RYgoBOOM wrote:I'm all aboard the Exum train if Henny backs it. We've done the most research out of anyone on him so if anyone knows what he can do, it's Rob.

Exum/Nelson
Oladipo/12th pick
Harris/Harkless
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Just an FYI. If Oladipo couldn't start over Meer, there is no way in hell Exum would start over Meer.
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Post#799 » by thelead » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:41 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
RYgoBOOM wrote:I'm all aboard the Exum train if Henny backs it. We've done the most research out of anyone on him so if anyone knows what he can do, it's Rob.

Exum/Nelson
Oladipo/12th pick
Harris/Harkless
Oquin/12th pick
Vucci

In hopes we get rid of AA


Just an FYI. If Oladipo couldn't start over Meer, there is no way in hell Exum would start over Meer.


If you don't know why Oladipo didn't start, I can't help you...
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#800 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:15 pm

thelead wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
RYgoBOOM wrote:I'm all aboard the Exum train if Henny backs it. We've done the most research out of anyone on him so if anyone knows what he can do, it's Rob.

Exum/Nelson
Oladipo/12th pick
Harris/Harkless
Oquin/12th pick
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In hopes we get rid of AA


Just an FYI. If Oladipo couldn't start over Meer, there is no way in hell Exum would start over Meer.


If you don't know why Oladipo didn't start, I can't help you...


Just saying Oladipo is light years ahead of Exum in regards to being NBA ready.

Thus, there is not a chance in hell Exum starts over Meer.
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