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Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team"

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#781 » by yoyojw17 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 11:51 pm

tiderulz wrote:
dsg2021 wrote:I would rather let vets walk away and force teams to pony up cap space than trade them for #24 and trash. It's a tactic that would pay off in trade talks 3 years later (there's a bite with the bark), when ORL has a real path and the trades really count.

I think many of the pessimists will be surprised at how willing WeHam, Lloyd and FO will be to let salary shed off. There will even be "young" players who walk away instead of WeHam extending them or matching them. Even if there is fluster and smoke that they'll match.

One thing the WeHam FO has been able to do really well is smart cap space use. And already hitting big-time on a #6 pick too. The salary cap sheet in future years are not going to be nearly as clogged as they think. You just extend JI for as long and as much of an injury discount as you can, and build from there.

it also could backfire with free agents who see how Orlando deals with their vets. and what hitting big time #6 pick are you referring to? the JI raft pick reminds me of the AG pick. its not that it was so great, its that it was good compared to the players picked after that ended up not being good. And they flopped the #6 pick the very next year,

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#782 » by The Effect » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:57 am

dsg2021 wrote:I would rather let vets walk away and force teams to pony up cap space than trade them for #24 and trash. It's a tactic that would pay off in trade talks 3 years later (there's a bite with the bark), when ORL has a real path and the trades really count.

I think many of the pessimists will be surprised at how willing WeHam, Lloyd and FO will be to let salary shed off. There will even be "young" players who walk away instead of WeHam extending them or matching them. Even if there is fluster and smoke that they'll match.

One thing the WeHam FO has been able to do really well is smart cap space use. And already hitting big-time on a #6 pick too. The salary cap sheet in future years are not going to be nearly as clogged as they think. You just extend JI for as long and as much of an injury discount as you can, and build from there.


2 years ago they could of let AG walk....they didn't
Last year they could of let Vuc and\or Ross walk...they didn't
In fact, outside of iwundu....is there ANYONE theyve let walk?

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#783 » by RookieStar » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:00 am

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dsg2021 wrote:I would rather let vets walk away and force teams to pony up cap space than trade them for #24 and trash. It's a tactic that would pay off in trade talks 3 years later (there's a bite with the bark), when ORL has a real path and the trades really count.

I think many of the pessimists will be surprised at how willing WeHam, Lloyd and FO will be to let salary shed off. There will even be "young" players who walk away instead of WeHam extending them or matching them. Even if there is fluster and smoke that they'll match.

One thing the WeHam FO has been able to do really well is smart cap space use. And already hitting big-time on a #6 pick too. The salary cap sheet in future years are not going to be nearly as clogged as they think. You just extend JI for as long and as much of an injury discount as you can, and build from there.


2 years ago they could of let AG walk....they didn't
Last year they could of let Vuc and\or Ross walk...they didn't
In fact, outside of iwundu....is there ANYONE theyve let walk?


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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: 

Post#784 » by KillMonger » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:00 am

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basketballRob wrote:Not sure who Gerald White is?




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Well at least he is honest about being in the G League.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#786 » by RookieStar » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:14 am

Who is Gerald White?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#787 » by NEM » Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:03 am

RookieStar wrote:Who is Gerald White?


Gerald White Jr.‘s father
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#788 » by basketballRob » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:36 pm

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#789 » by Howard Mass » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:46 am

Would someone like to make a thread for the G-League Lakeland signings?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#790 » by The Effect » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:24 am

Howard Mass wrote:Would someone like to make a thread for the G-League Lakeland signings?


I hope not, then we'd have nothing to talk about in this board
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#791 » by Howard Mass » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:37 am

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Howard Mass wrote:Would someone like to make a thread for the G-League Lakeland signings?


I hope not, then we'd have nothing to talk about in this board


That is cold.

I would like to have a Lakeland Magic thread and also a thread to discuss Exhibit 10 signings.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#792 » by drsd » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:29 am

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Currently the Magic has 14 players signed and two 2-way players for a 16-man roster.
Without a trade, this is our 2020/21 Orlando Magic:

Fultz/Anthony/Carter-Williams/Bone(2W)
Fournier/Ross/Bacon/Mané(2W)
Gordon/Ennis
Aminu/Okeke/Clark
Vučević/Bamba/Birch

If the Magic do sign a 15th player, one has to assume it would be a combo-forward.

In conclusion, yes, Run It Back seems to be the theme of this year's roster.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#793 » by The Real Dalic » Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:32 am

drsd wrote:
The Effect wrote:Image



Currently the Magic has 14 players signed and two 2-way players for a 16-man roster.
Without a trade, this is our 2020/21 Orlando Magic:

Fultz/Anthony/Carter-Williams/Bone(2W)
Fournier/Ross/Bacon/Mané(2W)
Gordon/Ennis
Aminu/Okeke/Clark
Vučević/Bamba/Birch

If the Magic do sign a 15th player, one has to assume it would be a combo-forward.

In conclusion, yes, Run It Back seems to be the theme of this year's roster.


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It's likely going to be

Fultz/Cole
Fournier/MCW/Bacon/Mane/Bone
Ennis/Ross
Gordon/Aminu/Okeke/Clark
Vuc/Bamba/Birch
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#794 » by drsd » Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:49 am

The Real Dalic wrote:It's likely going to be

Fultz/Cole
Fournier/MCW/Bacon/Mane/Bone
Ennis/Ross
Gordon/Aminu/Okeke/Clark
Vuc/Bamba/Birch


I agree that Ennis and Aminu will compete for the 5th starting slot.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#795 » by tiderulz » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:40 pm

The Effect wrote:
dsg2021 wrote:I would rather let vets walk away and force teams to pony up cap space than trade them for #24 and trash. It's a tactic that would pay off in trade talks 3 years later (there's a bite with the bark), when ORL has a real path and the trades really count.

I think many of the pessimists will be surprised at how willing WeHam, Lloyd and FO will be to let salary shed off. There will even be "young" players who walk away instead of WeHam extending them or matching them. Even if there is fluster and smoke that they'll match.

One thing the WeHam FO has been able to do really well is smart cap space use. And already hitting big-time on a #6 pick too. The salary cap sheet in future years are not going to be nearly as clogged as they think. You just extend JI for as long and as much of an injury discount as you can, and build from there.


2 years ago they could of let AG walk....they didn't
Last year they could of let Vuc and\or Ross walk...they didn't
In fact, outside of iwundu....is there ANYONE theyve let walk?

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you get that picture from me in the T&T? :D
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#796 » by The Effect » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:25 pm

tiderulz wrote:
The Effect wrote:
dsg2021 wrote:I would rather let vets walk away and force teams to pony up cap space than trade them for #24 and trash. It's a tactic that would pay off in trade talks 3 years later (there's a bite with the bark), when ORL has a real path and the trades really count.

I think many of the pessimists will be surprised at how willing WeHam, Lloyd and FO will be to let salary shed off. There will even be "young" players who walk away instead of WeHam extending them or matching them. Even if there is fluster and smoke that they'll match.

One thing the WeHam FO has been able to do really well is smart cap space use. And already hitting big-time on a #6 pick too. The salary cap sheet in future years are not going to be nearly as clogged as they think. You just extend JI for as long and as much of an injury discount as you can, and build from there.


2 years ago they could of let AG walk....they didn't
Last year they could of let Vuc and\or Ross walk...they didn't
In fact, outside of iwundu....is there ANYONE theyve let walk?

Image

you get that picture from me in the T&T? :D

Lol actually no, I just went to giphy and typed in run it back
I was expecting a video of some youtubers saying run it back (they say it alot in music reaction videos)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#797 » by Dub_Sax » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:50 pm

drsd wrote:
The Effect wrote:Image



Currently the Magic has 14 players signed and two 2-way players for a 16-man roster.
Without a trade, this is our 2020/21 Orlando Magic:

Fultz/Anthony/Carter-Williams/Bone(2W)
Fournier/Ross/Bacon/Mané(2W)
Gordon/Ennis
Aminu/Okeke/Clark
Vučević/Bamba/Birch

If the Magic do sign a 15th player, one has to assume it would be a combo-forward.

In conclusion, yes, Run It Back seems to be the theme of this year's roster.


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Actually the Magic already have 15 players when you include Isaac.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#798 » by tiderulz » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:25 pm

The Effect wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
The Effect wrote:
2 years ago they could of let AG walk....they didn't
Last year they could of let Vuc and\or Ross walk...they didn't
In fact, outside of iwundu....is there ANYONE theyve let walk?

Image

you get that picture from me in the T&T? :D

Lol actually no, I just went to giphy and typed in run it back
I was expecting a video of some youtubers saying run it back (they say it alot in music reaction videos)

just some minds thinking alike then :party:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#799 » by JBSouthpaw » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:39 pm

Not a fan of Cole and Ross on the floor at the same time.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread '20-'21 VI: "I like this team" 

Post#800 » by zaymon » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:00 pm

JBSouthpaw wrote:Not a fan of Cole and Ross on the floor at the same time.

Why ? I think they can be lethal. Its hard to pay all the attention to running Ross when your point guard is a pull up threat.
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