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VFX wrote:pepe1991 wrote:
This is hilarious list.
Only two of the top 5 are going to be losing the first round of their series.
VFX wrote:pepe1991 wrote:
This is hilarious list.
Only two of the top 5 are going to be losing the first round of their series.
KillMonger wrote:Unfortunately for you he's going to be here for a while so lock in my guyLast Guardian wrote:I wish I could be this positive on Paolo as some people are. I find his game unappealing both to watch and to build an offense around. When is the last time he even threw a lob? Maybe I just don't remember. I feel like Franz does it all the time.
The team needs to do everything in their power to make Franz a good shooter. He gets that going, he'll be 28+ppg guy. It will make him that much more of a threat to drive, and that will open up his playmaking. When he makes those step backs I just think if he's consistent with that shot he'd be unstoppable.
I miss the team based offense when Franz was the guy. The defense was still there.
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We may need to switch AB back onto Tatum like the first game of the series.eyriq wrote:Game by game accounting of Tatum vs Paolo in net points.
Game 1:
Paolo +6.1
Tatum -0.9
Game 2:
Paolo +3.1
Tatum dnp
Game 3:
Paolo +0.8
Tatum +7.3
Game 4:
Paolo -6.3
Tatum +8.9
Early on Paolo outplayed Tatum. Tatum has been increasingly dominant as the series progresses.
This combined with the Cavs series stamps Paolo as a clear playoff riser.
Can't tell you how to feel about him, he's just going to be here nothing is changing about that. I think the problem you're having is more so the system rather than the player. I would take the issue up with the suits, mose and the front office for not creating a solid system and not getting the right pieces around our guys respectively.....but you're just providing your critique, not that big a deal in fact I don't necessarily disagree with youLast Guardian wrote:KillMonger wrote:Unfortunately for you he's going to be here for a while so lock in my guyLast Guardian wrote:I wish I could be this positive on Paolo as some people are. I find his game unappealing both to watch and to build an offense around. When is the last time he even threw a lob? Maybe I just don't remember. I feel like Franz does it all the time.
The team needs to do everything in their power to make Franz a good shooter. He gets that going, he'll be 28+ppg guy. It will make him that much more of a threat to drive, and that will open up his playmaking. When he makes those step backs I just think if he's consistent with that shot he'd be unstoppable.
I miss the team based offense when Franz was the guy. The defense was still there.
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Are you suggesting I be positive because I have no other choice?
bigdogdylan5 wrote:Not really sure why Black is everyone whipping boy today. The kid is 21 years old and he was a late starter of basketball in high school. He was always going to take time to develop. Everyone being so angry he isn’t ready to run a pro offense against the defending champs in the playoffs is a little laughable. The absolute biggest failure of Weltman in building this team is not having a backup plan if Suggs got injured and Black wasn’t ready to run an offense… An extremely likely scenario given history. Only having Cole Anthony and Cory Joseph is criminal. This season has a lot of blame to go around and honestly Black is pretty low on my list.
Everyone needs to be better. But it starts with Mosely and Weltman. The problems are clear and Paolo and Franz need to get better but they are ready to rock we need to fix this thing. Weltman gets blame as he should he needs to balance this roster but damn Mosely is displaying a real inability to coach a pro offense. That might be my biggest disappointment of the season.
GelbeWand09 wrote:dsg2021 wrote:ESPN never bothered to write up a Recap of ORL's Game 3 win, yet wrote up BOS's Game 4 win almost instantly. You can't make this stuff up for finding team motivation things to remember for a hopeful 3-2 series or next season.
I will nitpick on Paolo. I don't like his penetration to the FT line areas and stopping there. Then passing out usually. In the critical 4th, he did something like this a lot. And in one possession that he did it, Jayson Tatum did the exact opposite thing that I've been begging Paolo to do more of. Jayson dribbled to drive at the rim and at 70% speed, kept his dribble alive, and then did the superstar type play of a turnaround jumper. But the big difference was because Tatum drove all the way to the rim almost, his turnaround jumper was like only 7 feet away. Most of Paolo's are like 15 feet away. Paolo needs to learn to drive more often, to BACK DOWN his defenders with his dribble always alive, and to hunt shots near 7 feet or closer. He can basically take a page from Franz, who does some of this a little better today. One of Paolo's best moments was something like two successful drives in a row, and one of them looked a little Franz-esque. I literally yelled out "Finally, he's doing what I wanted him to do!" Yes, some drives need to be breakneck fast, but Paolo is such a beast that he needs to learn how to BACK DOWN defenders and how to drive slower sometimes probing for mistakes and openings in the collapse. The talent is there to be a top 5 NBA player for YEARS. It will happen.
It's easy to say he should go to the hoop. Paolo is 6'10 250. His ballhandling is very good for his position but it's not good enough to get constantly we're he wants to be. Same for Franz. That's normal. They are not athletic freaks like LeBron/Giannis or skilled like Doncic. Thats why you can't built your offense and playmaking around two 6'10 ballhandler not named the former 3. They will always have problems driving to the hoop in tight half court situation and become jumpshooters.
I say that for 2 years. Against good half court defense Paolo is a jumpshooter. He hit them on good clip so far in both playoffs. That's good but it's not a winning formula because it's low eff. Offense. That is nothing against Paolo just against the "system" and not having a speedy guard who creates easy opportunities and collapses the defense. Shooting alone is by far not enough what we need. We need dynamic ballhandler in the half court
That's why you need a dynamic PG/SG who can collapse the defense. Paolo and Franz rarely collapse the defense in those situation because it's way too slow and they have enough problem not losing the ball going through traffic.
You can't beat good team when 2 guys taking all the shots and having all the usage. You can't beat good teams when you rely on Paolo and Franz hitting tons of jumpers and in Paolos case high difficult Shots.
fendilim wrote:GelbeWand09 wrote:dsg2021 wrote:ESPN never bothered to write up a Recap of ORL's Game 3 win, yet wrote up BOS's Game 4 win almost instantly. You can't make this stuff up for finding team motivation things to remember for a hopeful 3-2 series or next season.
I will nitpick on Paolo. I don't like his penetration to the FT line areas and stopping there. Then passing out usually. In the critical 4th, he did something like this a lot. And in one possession that he did it, Jayson Tatum did the exact opposite thing that I've been begging Paolo to do more of. Jayson dribbled to drive at the rim and at 70% speed, kept his dribble alive, and then did the superstar type play of a turnaround jumper. But the big difference was because Tatum drove all the way to the rim almost, his turnaround jumper was like only 7 feet away. Most of Paolo's are like 15 feet away. Paolo needs to learn to drive more often, to BACK DOWN his defenders with his dribble always alive, and to hunt shots near 7 feet or closer. He can basically take a page from Franz, who does some of this a little better today. One of Paolo's best moments was something like two successful drives in a row, and one of them looked a little Franz-esque. I literally yelled out "Finally, he's doing what I wanted him to do!" Yes, some drives need to be breakneck fast, but Paolo is such a beast that he needs to learn how to BACK DOWN defenders and how to drive slower sometimes probing for mistakes and openings in the collapse. The talent is there to be a top 5 NBA player for YEARS. It will happen.
It's easy to say he should go to the hoop. Paolo is 6'10 250. His ballhandling is very good for his position but it's not good enough to get constantly we're he wants to be. Same for Franz. That's normal. They are not athletic freaks like LeBron/Giannis or skilled like Doncic. Thats why you can't built your offense and playmaking around two 6'10 ballhandler not named the former 3. They will always have problems driving to the hoop in tight half court situation and become jumpshooters.
I say that for 2 years. Against good half court defense Paolo is a jumpshooter. He hit them on good clip so far in both playoffs. That's good but it's not a winning formula because it's low eff. Offense. That is nothing against Paolo just against the "system" and not having a speedy guard who creates easy opportunities and collapses the defense. Shooting alone is by far not enough what we need. We need dynamic ballhandler in the half court
That's why you need a dynamic PG/SG who can collapse the defense. Paolo and Franz rarely collapse the defense in those situation because it's way too slow and they have enough problem not losing the ball going through traffic.
You can't beat good team when 2 guys taking all the shots and having all the usage. You can't beat good teams when you rely on Paolo and Franz hitting tons of jumpers and in Paolos case high difficult Shots.
Paolo needs to change his game and be more reliant on 3s, just like how Tatum did.
You're missing the point. AB’s role as a point guard is backed by a full season of usage, assist share, on-ball volume, and rim pressure — not a four-game playoff sample.VFX wrote:eyriq wrote:VFX wrote:AB is a point guard (If you discount what point guards are actually tasked with doing)
The funny thing about fans getting AB's evaluation wrong is that "creator" isn't even eye-test fluff, there are concrete workload and skill markers. 19.6% usage (63rd percentile), assist ratio 22.1% (74th percentile), ast:tov 1.7 (51st percentile), on-ball scoring per-36 4.1 (79th percentile), rim pressure/foul draw 31.8% (79th percentile).
Usage + assist share + on-ball scoring volume + rim pressure form the playmaking package and AB checks all 4 boxes.
Anthony Black has ZERO total assists in the 4 games of this current playoff series.
Anthony Black is 1-10 in 3 pointers taken in this series.
His stats tell me exactly what the eye test does.
He's not a point guard.
He's not a creator.
He's not an on ball threat from outside.
Stop with this nonsense.
This is like trying to convince me that Cole Anthony is a Center because he can rebound the basketball.
qwertyuser wrote:Paolo took 32 shots (12-32)....there are a lot of players better then him in the play offs that do not come close to the amount of shots he is taking. No shooter will succeed here when they get like 3 shots a game. Yes the shooters here are bad however taking 32 and freezing out the rest will not get them into rhythm or lead to wins in the long run. I was glad someone in the press conference actually confronted Paolo with the 32 shot stat. The worst thing that can happen is if he turns into a Carmelo...that is not winning basketball.
A lot of it is on the coaching staff where the offensive plan this season is to give the ball to Paolo or Franz en the other 4 stand around and do nothing. It creates bad habits and is a bad offensive system. Losing to Boston is to be expected however some things need to change for next season (and not just the internal growth Weltman cult stuff and Franz fixing his 3....). When Corey Joseph is the starting PG you have a problem.
Knightro wrote:
I understand that there are people out there who choose to be positive and upbeat about things and in some ways that's an admirable way to live, but some of the stuff some of y'all say is so far beyond reality that it is just immediate eye rolls and groans.
And then these wild and borderline delusional takes get defended so aggressively that my eyes just glaze over.
