JRoy wrote:Airgordon00 wrote:JRoy wrote:
No.
The idea is preposterous and anyone with a gram of sense knows it.
Alright buddy. Go on back to the trailblazers board and enjoy 3 of the worst contracts in basketball.
3?
Ayton, Grant and Jrue.
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JRoy wrote:Airgordon00 wrote:JRoy wrote:
No.
The idea is preposterous and anyone with a gram of sense knows it.
Alright buddy. Go on back to the trailblazers board and enjoy 3 of the worst contracts in basketball.
3?
Airgordon00 wrote:So with the spurs likely taking Dylan Harper and us being rumored to trading for him at the deadline thoughts on getting the much needed point guard.
Spurs get Suggs and Jett
Magic get Fox.
Spurs allow Harper to take the keys right away and give him a lock down defender next to him. They could move Vessel to SF and roll out a Harper, Suggs, Vasell, Sochan, Wemby lineup. That team then has a bunch of room to grow and compete right away.
Magic get a proven allstar PG in Fox who provides us the much needed play making at that position we have missed for years. We hopefully would have a contact extension in place and figured out before pulling the trigger. This could be a win-win for both teams. It would suck to lose Suggs but with his injury history and play style I’m worried we won’t get our moneys worth. This gives us a legit ball handler who can push the pace at an elite level. If he can keep improving his 3 Ball we are golden.
Thoughts?
tiderulz wrote:Airgordon00 wrote:So with the spurs likely taking Dylan Harper and us being rumored to trading for him at the deadline thoughts on getting the much needed point guard.
Spurs get Suggs and Jett
Magic get Fox.
Spurs allow Harper to take the keys right away and give him a lock down defender next to him. They could move Vessel to SF and roll out a Harper, Suggs, Vasell, Sochan, Wemby lineup. That team then has a bunch of room to grow and compete right away.
Magic get a proven allstar PG in Fox who provides us the much needed play making at that position we have missed for years. We hopefully would have a contact extension in place and figured out before pulling the trigger. This could be a win-win for both teams. It would suck to lose Suggs but with his injury history and play style I’m worried we won’t get our moneys worth. This gives us a legit ball handler who can push the pace at an elite level. If he can keep improving his 3 Ball we are golden.
Thoughts?
ehh. I like Fox as an idea. but he is a bad 3 pt shooter, not a big assist guy and never been a good defender. He has great energy and a very good slasher/scorer, but I dont know that he really makes the team better than Suggs. He is available more, which is a big plus. But i would NOT call him a playmaker.
Airgordon00 wrote:With the rumor of Jokic not being guaranteed the sign his extension would we shock the world in a blockbuster.
Nuggets get Fran, WCJ, Jett and 25th pick.
Magic get Jokic.
Nuggets get a great retool to build around Murray, MPJ and Gordon. Murray, Franz, MPJ, Gordon and WCJ is still a really good team.
Magic get a MVP and Elite playmaker at center. We would be damn near impossible to stop with Jokic’s playmaking. Him and Paolo would be an amazing duo. Bane and Suggs would get so many wide open 3’s. Are defense would definitely regress but Jokic’s Elite offense would make up for it and then some. I love Franz but Jokic is one of the only players in the world I would do trade him for.
Suggs/Free agent/Cojo
Bane/Free agent
Black/TDS/Houstan
Paolo/Isaac
Jokic/Goga/Mo
We would definitely have to make some follow up trades to get some wing/guard depth but we could definitely get some ring chasers with a team like that.
Thoughts?
thelead wrote:what can we get for WCJ? He seems like a Celtics-like cost cutting casualty of the CBA
Knightro wrote:thelead wrote:what can we get for WCJ? He seems like a Celtics-like cost cutting casualty of the CBA
Right or wrong, my sense is that the Magic's coaches and front office like Carter a whole lot more than the fans do.
thelead wrote:Knightro wrote:thelead wrote:what can we get for WCJ? He seems like a Celtics-like cost cutting casualty of the CBA
Right or wrong, my sense is that the Magic's coaches and front office like Carter a whole lot more than the fans do.
I like him... for the bench. He will be getting paid too much for a bench role soon.
He, just like Isaac, are just not worth their contracts if they're going to shoot sub-26% from 3 while also not being roll/lob threats.
thelead wrote:Knightro wrote:thelead wrote:what can we get for WCJ? He seems like a Celtics-like cost cutting casualty of the CBA
Right or wrong, my sense is that the Magic's coaches and front office like Carter a whole lot more than the fans do.
I like him... for the bench. He will be getting paid too much for a bench role soon.
He, just like Isaac, are just not worth their contracts if they're going to shoot sub-26% from 3 while also not being roll/lob threats.
flying_mollusk wrote:My only concern is that unprotected picks can come back and bite you in the ass since anything can happen in this league. 5 years from now is a long time. 5 years ago we had just made the playoffs with Vuc, AG, and Fournier after going 33-40.
Knightro wrote:basketballRob wrote:I think we were probably overvaluing Mccollum, Poole, and Simons.
You think?
drsd wrote:Knightro wrote:basketballRob wrote:I think we were probably overvaluing Mccollum, Poole, and Simons.
You think?
Bane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mccollum, Poole, and Simons
jezzerinho wrote:drsd wrote:Knightro wrote:
You think?
Bane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mccollum, Poole, and Simons
McCollum was v cheap tho for his talent level / production. He not Bane for sure but he was a bargain whereas Bane was high-ticket.
basketballRob wrote:If Atlanta gives NAW a big contract, they may not re-sign Levert.
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Knightro wrote:VFX wrote:I've reiterated this a million times, but...
Orlando has 3 competent guards on the roster. Suggs, Bane, and AB (if you consider him one).
2 of those 3 guys are injury prone and will likely need someone off the bench to fill in for them.
NOW with that being said...under no circumstances do I think Jase Richardson or Walter Clayton should be the players to be coming in off the bench to take over starting roles to a team that is supposedly in contention right now.
You cannot convince me that having Paolo,Isaac, Caleb, and da Silva make sense on paper as dudes you are willingly paying as maximum depth at 1 (maybe 2) positions knowing the realities of back court rotation. The same can be said about paying 3 Centers (Moe will be back sooner than you think) with this in mind also.
That means likely that one of Isaac, Carter, or Goga are being moved for a guard(s) and Orlando is drafting their replacements. BPA doesn't make sense when we are talking about being 1 player removed from the rotation in the back court. Mosely isnt turning into Thibs in one offseason and the Magic are under cap constraints.
They’re going to sign a guard in free agency almost assuredly.
Young Thunder wrote:What about
Goga + pick 46 for Hauser + pick 28
Jase Richardson at #25
Kalkbrenner, Raynaud or Yang at #28
And Boston get Goga as starting C