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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#781 » by Airgordon00 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:55 am

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No.

The idea is preposterous and anyone with a gram of sense knows it.

Alright buddy. Go on back to the trailblazers board and enjoy 3 of the worst contracts in basketball.


3?

Ayton, Grant and Jrue.
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Post#782 » by tiderulz » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:04 am

Airgordon00 wrote:So with the spurs likely taking Dylan Harper and us being rumored to trading for him at the deadline thoughts on getting the much needed point guard.

Spurs get Suggs and Jett

Magic get Fox.

Spurs allow Harper to take the keys right away and give him a lock down defender next to him. They could move Vessel to SF and roll out a Harper, Suggs, Vasell, Sochan, Wemby lineup. That team then has a bunch of room to grow and compete right away.

Magic get a proven allstar PG in Fox who provides us the much needed play making at that position we have missed for years. We hopefully would have a contact extension in place and figured out before pulling the trigger. This could be a win-win for both teams. It would suck to lose Suggs but with his injury history and play style I’m worried we won’t get our moneys worth. This gives us a legit ball handler who can push the pace at an elite level. If he can keep improving his 3 Ball we are golden.

Thoughts?

ehh. I like Fox as an idea. but he is a bad 3 pt shooter, not a big assist guy and never been a good defender. He has great energy and a very good slasher/scorer, but I dont know that he really makes the team better than Suggs. He is available more, which is a big plus. But i would NOT call him a playmaker.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#783 » by Airgordon00 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:17 am

tiderulz wrote:
Airgordon00 wrote:So with the spurs likely taking Dylan Harper and us being rumored to trading for him at the deadline thoughts on getting the much needed point guard.

Spurs get Suggs and Jett

Magic get Fox.

Spurs allow Harper to take the keys right away and give him a lock down defender next to him. They could move Vessel to SF and roll out a Harper, Suggs, Vasell, Sochan, Wemby lineup. That team then has a bunch of room to grow and compete right away.

Magic get a proven allstar PG in Fox who provides us the much needed play making at that position we have missed for years. We hopefully would have a contact extension in place and figured out before pulling the trigger. This could be a win-win for both teams. It would suck to lose Suggs but with his injury history and play style I’m worried we won’t get our moneys worth. This gives us a legit ball handler who can push the pace at an elite level. If he can keep improving his 3 Ball we are golden.

Thoughts?

ehh. I like Fox as an idea. but he is a bad 3 pt shooter, not a big assist guy and never been a good defender. He has great energy and a very good slasher/scorer, but I dont know that he really makes the team better than Suggs. He is available more, which is a big plus. But i would NOT call him a playmaker.

Yeah those are good points. I love Suggs tenacity and toughness he plays with. But I just keep coming back too the health question with Suggs. My gut tells me he isn’t going to be healthy enough to be worth the contract we gave him and my fear is he becomes more injury prone then we are stuck with his contract. If we strike now while his value is still relatively high and get a player at a position of need then I would take that swing.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#784 » by MasterGMer » Wed Jun 25, 2025 1:35 am

Airgordon00 wrote:With the rumor of Jokic not being guaranteed the sign his extension would we shock the world in a blockbuster.

Nuggets get Fran, WCJ, Jett and 25th pick.

Magic get Jokic.

Nuggets get a great retool to build around Murray, MPJ and Gordon. Murray, Franz, MPJ, Gordon and WCJ is still a really good team.

Magic get a MVP and Elite playmaker at center. We would be damn near impossible to stop with Jokic’s playmaking. Him and Paolo would be an amazing duo. Bane and Suggs would get so many wide open 3’s. Are defense would definitely regress but Jokic’s Elite offense would make up for it and then some. I love Franz but Jokic is one of the only players in the world I would do trade him for.

Suggs/Free agent/Cojo
Bane/Free agent
Black/TDS/Houstan
Paolo/Isaac
Jokic/Goga/Mo
We would definitely have to make some follow up trades to get some wing/guard depth but we could definitely get some ring chasers with a team like that.

Thoughts?


You saw the press conference Denver GM said they might trade Jokic under somewhat circumstances?

There is definitely some legs to the rumor. But where did you hear that? Any quote or source?

I really hope Orlando could move up the draft. But it is going to be a wild day tomorrow. See you all out there
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#785 » by thelead » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:13 am

what can we get for WCJ? He seems like a Celtics-like cost cutting casualty of the CBA
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#786 » by Knightro » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:26 am

thelead wrote:what can we get for WCJ? He seems like a Celtics-like cost cutting casualty of the CBA


Right or wrong, my sense is that the Magic's coaches and front office like Carter a whole lot more than the fans do.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#787 » by thelead » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:32 am

Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:what can we get for WCJ? He seems like a Celtics-like cost cutting casualty of the CBA


Right or wrong, my sense is that the Magic's coaches and front office like Carter a whole lot more than the fans do.

I like him... for the bench. He will be getting paid too much for a bench role soon.

He, just like Isaac, are just not worth their contracts if they're going to shoot sub-26% from 3 while also not being roll/lob threats.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#788 » by Knightro » Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:36 am

thelead wrote:
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thelead wrote:what can we get for WCJ? He seems like a Celtics-like cost cutting casualty of the CBA


Right or wrong, my sense is that the Magic's coaches and front office like Carter a whole lot more than the fans do.

I like him... for the bench. He will be getting paid too much for a bench role soon.

He, just like Isaac, are just not worth their contracts if they're going to shoot sub-26% from 3 while also not being roll/lob threats.


It was just a very weird 3PT shooting season for Carter. The two previous years combined he was 36% which is obviously very workable.

I have to imagine the Magic are expecting him to be more in that 35-36% range than 23%. There's too much of a track record, like 174 games which is not at all a small sample size, of this guy being a mid-30% 3PT shooter for him to all of a sudden out of nowhere be one of the worst shooters in the sport.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#789 » by zaymon » Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:22 am

thelead wrote:
Knightro wrote:
thelead wrote:what can we get for WCJ? He seems like a Celtics-like cost cutting casualty of the CBA


Right or wrong, my sense is that the Magic's coaches and front office like Carter a whole lot more than the fans do.

I like him... for the bench. He will be getting paid too much for a bench role soon.

He, just like Isaac, are just not worth their contracts if they're going to shoot sub-26% from 3 while also not being roll/lob threats.


I am not a big fan of WCJ but he will be worth his contract after salary cap raises.
He is also very moody. Addition of Bane and return of Suggs could REALLY affect him. Also the window of contention could really motivate him.
Try to search for switchable bigs with adequate passing and streaky shooting who could replace him... not easy
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#790 » by eyriq » Wed Jun 25, 2025 7:48 am

Taking stock of players I’d be fine moving on from:

JI is injury-prone and part of the re-tool era. WCJ and Suggs are also injury-prone. Jett hasn’t shown much.
Cole comes from the re-tool era, KCP was overpaid, and Harris couldn’t stay healthy. They’re already gone.

Feels like we’re off to a great start this offseason.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#791 » by drsd » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:12 am

flying_mollusk wrote:My only concern is that unprotected picks can come back and bite you in the ass since anything can happen in this league. 5 years from now is a long time. 5 years ago we had just made the playoffs with Vuc, AG, and Fournier after going 33-40.


Orlando has its five starters locked for the next 4-years. This is the tile-run interval. If Orlando is "The Washington Generals" 5-years from now, we really need to be OK with that.

In the last 7-years there have been 7 different NBA champions. That hasn't happened over the last 50 years. Trying to win-now is the Modern NBA.

2019 - Toronto
2020 - LA Lakers
2021 - Milwaukee
2022 - Golden State
2023 - Denver
2024 - Boston
2025 - Oklahoma City
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#792 » by drsd » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:17 am

Knightro wrote:
basketballRob wrote:I think we were probably overvaluing Mccollum, Poole, and Simons.


You think? :lol:


Bane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mccollum, Poole, and Simons
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Post#793 » by Young Thunder » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:23 am

What about

Goga + pick 46 for Hauser + pick 28

Jase Richardson at #25
Kalkbrenner, Raynaud or Yang at #28

And Boston get Goga as starting C
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Post#794 » by eyriq » Wed Jun 25, 2025 9:21 am

JI + Jett for Sexton is the next move I'm interested in
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#795 » by jezzerinho » Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:36 am

drsd wrote:
Knightro wrote:
basketballRob wrote:I think we were probably overvaluing Mccollum, Poole, and Simons.


You think? :lol:


Bane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mccollum, Poole, and Simons


McCollum was v cheap tho for his talent level / production. He not Bane for sure but he was a bargain whereas Bane was high-ticket.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#796 » by Redick07 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 10:59 am

jezzerinho wrote:
drsd wrote:
Knightro wrote:
You think? :lol:


Bane >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mccollum, Poole, and Simons


McCollum was v cheap tho for his talent level / production. He not Bane for sure but he was a bargain whereas Bane was high-ticket.


CJM is a good scorer but poor defender; Bane is a good scorer, a qualified defender and much younger.
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Post#797 » by basketballRob » Wed Jun 25, 2025 11:44 am

If Atlanta gives NAW a big contract, they may not re-sign Levert.

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Post#798 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:14 pm

basketballRob wrote:If Atlanta gives NAW a big contract, they may not re-sign Levert.

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LeVert not the defender NAW is, but that’s a GREAT consolation prize.
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Re: Official 2025-2026 Magic Trade ideas thread 

Post#799 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:49 pm

Knightro wrote:
VFX wrote:I've reiterated this a million times, but...

Orlando has 3 competent guards on the roster. Suggs, Bane, and AB (if you consider him one).
2 of those 3 guys are injury prone and will likely need someone off the bench to fill in for them.

NOW with that being said...under no circumstances do I think Jase Richardson or Walter Clayton should be the players to be coming in off the bench to take over starting roles to a team that is supposedly in contention right now.

You cannot convince me that having Paolo,Isaac, Caleb, and da Silva make sense on paper as dudes you are willingly paying as maximum depth at 1 (maybe 2) positions knowing the realities of back court rotation. The same can be said about paying 3 Centers (Moe will be back sooner than you think) with this in mind also.

That means likely that one of Isaac, Carter, or Goga are being moved for a guard(s) and Orlando is drafting their replacements. BPA doesn't make sense when we are talking about being 1 player removed from the rotation in the back court. Mosely isnt turning into Thibs in one offseason and the Magic are under cap constraints.


They’re going to sign a guard in free agency almost assuredly.


Apparently Schroeder to the Kings is already set in stone.
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Post#800 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:51 pm

Young Thunder wrote:What about

Goga + pick 46 for Hauser + pick 28

Jase Richardson at #25
Kalkbrenner, Raynaud or Yang at #28

And Boston get Goga as starting C


I kinda like this…a lot.

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