"Magic Come Knocking for CP3"

[Skin]

I wish this would happen but i doubt it does, like was said earlier maybe at the allstar break but i doubt it now even though that other PG in New Orleans is damn good i dont see them pissing off there fans before the season starts. But i dont see both of those PG's co-exsisting together for a long time either so who knows... BTW

I like how the title of the thread was changed to quote on page 3... Good Job O.P.

One reason for NOR to pull the trigger now is to get under the luxury tax threshold. This is why they were dangling Collison before. They are serious about getting under the cap NOW.

Secondly, if the value in the deal is good enough, there's no reason to prolong the inevitable. Waiting until the All-Star break could do more harm to your long term success. Get the future going now.

[Simplicity0]

I don't know if there's anything we have outside of Dwight that they would consider. BUT, IF THIS HAPPENS
ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG

[papa_clipse]

Orlando sentinal article confirming:

http://ht.ly/21Eb6

[NEM]

I'll tell all of you something right now, nothing is happening before Thursday, so quit refreshing realgm lol... I bet all of you will watch the draft on Thursday with these rumors coming out huh lol

[LBPTarHeel27]

I'll tell all of you something right now, nothing is happening before Thursday, so quit refreshing realgm lol... I bet all of you will watch the draft on Thursday with these rumors coming out huh lol

Even if the Magic were not involved in any rumors at all, I would be watching every second.

Anything could happen in the draft. Every team will do whatever it takes to put themselves in a position to land a big name FA. Whether it be trading away picks for established players or trading players away for top picks, there will be plenty of trade talk.

Aside from that, it is a time where all of the NBA teams are in negotiation mode. This is where you get other trade talks brewing. It doesn't have to involve the draft at all. That is where the CP3 trade talks could heat up if NO has any interest.

[spinedoc]

I see a bait and switch happening. Otis inquires about Paul, even though he knows the Hornets aren't moving him, and then counters with an offer for Collison. I'm seeing Collison coming with Okafor myself. That's good enough in my book, but yeah, I'd love to have Paul though.

[Black and Blue]

I see a bait and switch happening. Otis inquires about Paul, even though he knows the Hornets aren't moving him, and then counters with an offer for Collison. I'm seeing Collison coming with Okafor myself. That's good enough in my book, but yeah, I'd love to have Paul though.

Interesting. If this were to happen I would hope we hold onto Nelson for insurance. Collison looks really good, but lacks the ability to take over a game like Nelson did when we needed him most these last playoffs.

[tiderulz]

I see a bait and switch happening. Otis inquires about Paul, even though he knows the Hornets aren't moving him, and then counters with an offer for Collison. I'm seeing Collison coming with Okafor myself. That's good enough in my book, but yeah, I'd love to have Paul though.

Collison has had a good part of one year. Not all year but part of it. I'm not sold enough on him yet to swallow Okafors contract, unless Lewis is headed out

[NEM]

One question, this Wesley character says acquiring cp3 increases ur chances of landing bron, would you trade Dwight for cp3 if you knew for a fact lebron was on his way

[tiderulz]

I see a bait and switch happening. Otis inquires about Paul, even though he knows the Hornets aren't moving him, and then counters with an offer for Collison. I'm seeing Collison coming with Okafor myself. That's good enough in my book, but yeah, I'd love to have Paul though.

Interesting. If this were to happen I would hope we hold onto Nelson for insurance. Collison looks really good, but lacks the ability to take over a game like Nelson did when we needed him most these last playoffs.

thats just it, we dont know enough about Collison. His entire NBA career is just 37 games as a starter and another 39 as a backup.

[tiderulz]

One question, this Wesley character says acquiring cp3 increases ur chances of landing bron, would you trade Dwight for cp3 if you knew for a fact lebron was on his way

No. Lebron is a great player, but you dont get talents like Dwight very often. Ask me again though in 3-4 years if Dwight hasnt improved his game anymore than it is now. I might feel differently.

[Magic#1]

One question, this Wesley character says acquiring cp3 increases ur chances of landing bron, would you trade Dwight for cp3 if you knew for a fact lebron was on his way

No. Lebron is a great player, but you dont get talents like Dwight very often. Ask me again though in 3-4 years if Dwight hasnt improved his game anymore than it is now. I might feel differently.

Agreed. Honestly, I feel like Dwight and CP are a better combo than LeBron and CP. That's just my opinion.

[spinedoc]

I see a bait and switch happening. Otis inquires about Paul, even though he knows the Hornets aren't moving him, and then counters with an offer for Collison. I'm seeing Collison coming with Okafor myself. That's good enough in my book, but yeah, I'd love to have Paul though.

Interesting. If this were to happen I would hope we hold onto Nelson for insurance. Collison looks really good, but lacks the ability to take over a game like Nelson did when we needed him most these last playoffs.

thats just it, we dont know enough about Collison. His entire NBA career is just 37 games as a starter and another 39 as a backup.

We need a backup pg that can push Jameer's game, Collison is very capable of that, and we need a starting pf. Okafor can definitely fill that hole for us, allowing us to finally move Shard to the three, and someone that Stan can't bench for the year, or rack up DNP's. That much salary and talent, he would be a mainstay next to Dwight. I think it could work like a charm. Every great big man needs a counterpart imo. Okafor can bring defense right away with blocked and altered shots, as well as some very needed rebounding. Dwight has been awesome in that regard, but we are still allowing teams in the paint too much for my liking.

[MagicMadness]

Tough call.

I too think that a Paul/Howard combo is better, because then you've got the classic PG/C combo along with an all-time defensive juggernaut in the middle.

Even with Paul/LeBron, you're going to have to have some sort of formidable frontcourt and a lot of defense to actually win in the Finals.

Either combo would be EPIC though, if they were to happen. We can dream.

[magicfan33]

According to the ESPN NBA Trade Machine, a trade between the Magic and Hornets to bring in the league's best PG to a top level team is financially possible. It leaves the Magic losing the contract of an overpaid vet, an up and down shoot-first PG and an overpaid backup PF/C. In return we receive a perennial All Star PG, a big bodied rebounder even though his contract is huge, a vet defender and 3-point shooter and a rookie guard who scored nearly 15 ppg off the bench last year shooting nearly 38% from behind the arc. The Magic could also thrown in draft picks to make this more appealing to the rebuilding Hornets. As far as i can see, if the Magic make this deal, contention is going to be far more imminent for them for a long time. This will just make the Magic a better team by increasing already strong parts of their team game and filling the holes the team has.

Magic receive:
Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor
James Posey
Marcus Thornton

Hornets Receive:
Vince Carter
Jameer Nelson
Marcin Gortat

-- Merged topics. ~ MM

[Black and Blue]

Interesting. If this were to happen I would hope we hold onto Nelson for insurance. Collison looks really good, but lacks the ability to take over a game like Nelson did when we needed him most these last playoffs.

thats just it, we dont know enough about Collison. His entire NBA career is just 37 games as a starter and another 39 as a backup.

We need a backup pg that can push Jameer's game, Collison is very capable of that, and we need a starting pf. Okafor can definitely fill that hole for us, allowing us to finally move Shard to the three, and someone that Stan can't bench for the year, or rack up DNP's. That much salary and talent, he would be a mainstay next to Dwight. I think it could work like a charm. Every great big man needs a counterpart imo. Okafor can bring defense right away with blocked and altered shots, as well as some very needed rebounding. Dwight has been awesome in that regard, but we are still allowing teams in the paint too much for my liking.

Personally, I wouldn't mind trying Gortat in the role you described above instead of getting Okafor. I've been annoyed at both Dwight and Marcin for their seeming reluctance to improve other aspects of their game to allow them both to be on the floor at the same time. If just one of them were to at least try to get a jumper, we could have height and floor spacing at the same time.

If Okafor comes in a deal for CP3 though, its certainly worth a try. For Collison, I'm not certain if it would be worth whatever pieces we'd have to part with (likely a combo of Nelson, Gortat, Pietrus)

[magicman123]

This is how you get Chris Paul to Orlando
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachi ... Id=23lzm2g

^^almost, gotta keep jameer though..imagine nelson with paul coming off the bench

You are fcking nuts! Keep Jameer and bring Paul off the bench? Craziest/homerset post i've read all year. You wish Nelson was the PG Paul is.

why? you think paul is better then meer>??..jkjk not all sarcasm needs green font man

[backasswards]

According to the ESPN NBA Trade Machine, a trade between the Magic and Hornets to bring in the league's best PG to a top level team is financially possible. It leaves the Magic losing the contract of an overpaid vet, an up and down shoot-first PG and an overpaid backup PF/C. In return we receive a perennial All Star PG, a big bodied rebounder even though his contract is huge, a vet defender and 3-point shooter and a rookie guard who scored nearly 15 ppg off the bench last year shooting nearly 38% from behind the arc. The Magic could also thrown in draft picks to make this more appealing to the rebuilding Hornets. As far as i can see, if the Magic make this deal, contention is going to be far more imminent for them for a long time. This will just make the Magic a better team by increasing already strong parts of their team game and filling the holes the team has.

Magic receive:
Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor
James Posey
Marcus Thornton

Hornets Receive:
Vince Carter
Jameer Nelson
Marcin Gortat

-- Merged topics. ~ MM

that is so lopsided in favor of the magic that's it's vomit inducing. c'mon guys, when making a potential trade package, consider the hornets' side of things. the only way this trade happens is if otis and his team are wearing ski masks and holding glocks

[LBPTarHeel27]

According to the ESPN NBA Trade Machine, a trade between the Magic and Hornets to bring in the league's best PG to a top level team is financially possible. It leaves the Magic losing the contract of an overpaid vet, an up and down shoot-first PG and an overpaid backup PF/C. In return we receive a perennial All Star PG, a big bodied rebounder even though his contract is huge, a vet defender and 3-point shooter and a rookie guard who scored nearly 15 ppg off the bench last year shooting nearly 38% from behind the arc. The Magic could also thrown in draft picks to make this more appealing to the rebuilding Hornets. As far as i can see, if the Magic make this deal, contention is going to be far more imminent for them for a long time. This will just make the Magic a better team by increasing already strong parts of their team game and filling the holes the team has.

Magic receive:
Chris Paul
Emeka Okafor
James Posey
Marcus Thornton

Hornets Receive:
Vince Carter
Jameer Nelson
Marcin Gortat

-- Merged topics. ~ MM

that is so lopsided in favor of the magic that's it's vomit inducing. c'mon guys, when making a potential trade package, consider the hornets' side of things. the only way this trade happens is if otis and his team are wearing ski masks and holding glocks

Actually, the deal is very similar to the one I proposed which ends up being a swing of around 65 million dollars that the Hornets would have invested in the next two years.

So no...it isn't robbery. It only is from a fan perspective. Not the front office and ownership.

[tiderulz]

Interesting. If this were to happen I would hope we hold onto Nelson for insurance. Collison looks really good, but lacks the ability to take over a game like Nelson did when we needed him most these last playoffs.

thats just it, we dont know enough about Collison. His entire NBA career is just 37 games as a starter and another 39 as a backup.

We need a backup pg that can push Jameer's game, Collison is very capable of that, and we need a starting pf. Okafor can definitely fill that hole for us, allowing us to finally move Shard to the three, and someone that Stan can't bench for the year, or rack up DNP's. That much salary and talent, he would be a mainstay next to Dwight. I think it could work like a charm. Every great big man needs a counterpart imo. Okafor can bring defense right away with blocked and altered shots, as well as some very needed rebounding. Dwight has been awesome in that regard, but we are still allowing teams in the paint too much for my liking.

Personally, I wouldn't mind trying Gortat in the role you described above instead of getting Okafor. I've been annoyed at both Dwight and Marcin for their seeming reluctance to improve other aspects of their game to allow them both to be on the floor at the same time. If just one of them were to at least try to get a jumper, we could have height and floor spacing at the same time.

If Okafor comes in a deal for CP3 though, its certainly worth a try. For Collison, I'm not certain if it would be worth whatever pieces we'd have to part with (likely a combo of Nelson, Gortat, Pietrus)

word is that Gortat is working hard on a short-mid range jumper. He increased his FT's more than 10% from 2 years ago to last year. I could see a short jumper added to his game as a strong possibility.