So Umm, Still Think Stan Is A "Championship" Coach?

[SmiteaDwight]

your smart you already know the answer to these

Next time to avoid answering what you can't
for variety you can say " mi no speaky english"

I tell you if this were an audition room for American Idol these would definitely be people who know they can't sing but get dogs to howl for attention.

[magicman123]

yea im not wasting my time with these questions, the great magino is always right and cant be defeated, mi no speaky english

[magicman123]

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[maginno]

Appropriate -The guy in the middle resembles your argument.

yea im not wasting my time with these questions, the great magino is always right and cant be defeated, mi no speaky english

There you go. Glad I could be of service

[magicman123]

Appropriate -The guy in the middle resembles your argument.

and the girl on the left resembles yours, damn what knowledge i just dropped

[maginno]

and the girl on the left resembles yours, damn what knowledge i just dropped

Thread is getting even weirder when one of them thinks he is insulting my argument by comparing it to an attractive girl. Getting back on topic let me put the two questions together without putting other words in that you might trip over

1) Who do any of you have in mind THAT IS AVAILABLE that you can show any concrete reason why that coach would win a ring with the magic?

2) Who besides Hedo has a game that regularly drives to the basket?

all non answers, distractions, you already know etc Yada yada yada will count as

"I have no idea. You've proven your point Maginno. I'm just yabbing"

[Cammo101]

I feel a lot dumber for having read this thread.

[craig01]

I feel a lot dumber for having read this thread.

LOL.

You are not alone.....

[Nemesis21]

I feel a lot dumber for having read this thread.

[SmiteaDwight]

and the girl on the left resembles yours, damn what knowledge i just dropped

Thread is getting even weirder when one of them thinks he is insulting my argument by comparing it to an attractive girl. Getting back on topic let me put the two questions together without putting other words in that you might trip over

1) Who do any of you have in mind THAT IS AVAILABLE that you can show any concrete reason why that coach would win a ring with the magic?

2) Who besides Hedo has a game that regularly drives to the basket?

all non answers, distractions, you already know etc Yada yada yada will count as

"I have no idea. You've proven your point Maginno. I'm just yabbing"

Bro i Understand your getting into this, and by all means, it is a serious issue. But don't take it out on 123.

I'm not on the fire Stan parade, bu i do believe there are other plays we could run to diversify our attack. While i do agree that our players could be more assertive, last night we played against the Boston style d, and with Jameer out, our best ball handler Hedo was often initiating the play form the top of the key. Hedo has never been known for his ability to draw fouls, but if he does get to the rim, it's often off a pnr. Last night, against the Chicago style Boston D, They doubled the Ballhandler nearly every time off the pick, putting three defenders guarding the two participants in that play, often leaving an open guy at the wing. Thus, Hedo really couldnt drive on that. That open guy for us was someone who shoots above 40% from three for his career be it Jrich, Ryno, JJ or the now defunct Arenas. You take that shot if it's open. The Boston D is aso quite good clogging the middle and forcing jumpers, so guys like those mentioned are even more disincentivized.

The 4th quarter was a chuck parade as we all know, so we won't discuss that. Whether it was due to complacency, fear on behalf of our ballhandlers, what have you, or in Arenas situation, an unconscious lack of cinfidence in his own ability to get to the rim, especially against the virtuoso Rose.

So I guess what I'am saying is, it's difficult to attack that defense from the top evertime, and we need to adjust to it come playoff time.

[maginno]

Bro i Understand your getting into this, and by all means, it is a serious issue. But don't take it out on 123..

Long answers that dodge the question go into the same pile of

"I have no idea. You've proven your point Maginno"

Don't try to make this into me taking it out on 123. I am asking anyone that takes the position No to the thread question not just 123

[WillyJakkz]

Maginno I still see you're talkin' loud but ain't sayin' nothin' (as are alot of you guys Cammo comes to mind).

Anyway braniac, go back and read "Scout A Player: Jason Richardson" Vs the Celtics and you'll see J-Rich had ONE post-up play ran for him in the very beginning of the game, he missed the shot and that was that....no more post-up for J-Rich cause Stan said to himself,

"Well SH*T that didn't work...ok guys..I tried to tell ya...my way is best...chuck 3's."

I'm stuck on stubborn and you're stuck on stupid cause I'll never be convinced that Stan is tha Man to get us an NBA Title.

If we could coach basketball like a football team, Stan would make a GREAT DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR but we need a good-great offensive coordinator. Stan's just decent at that and that's his hinderance.

[magicman123]

and the girl on the left resembles yours, damn what knowledge i just dropped

Thread is getting even weirder when one of them thinks he is insulting my argument by comparing it to an attractive girl. Getting back on topic let me put the two questions together without putting other words in that you might trip over

1) Who do any of you have in mind THAT IS AVAILABLE that you can show any concrete reason why that coach would win a ring with the magic?

2) Who besides Hedo has a game that regularly drives to the basket?

all non answers, distractions, you already know etc Yada yada yada will count as

"I have no idea. You've proven your point Maginno. I'm just yabbing"

i never said fire stan or replace him, i just said the man is stubborn...

than i simply stated that you were smart enough to know the answer to your own question and then i get referenced to a dog who doesn't speak English, its ok though my emotional well being isn't stable anyways so you might be spot on

ill also say jameer regularly drives to the basket but he often gets caught and gets dizzy running in circles, so maybe that counts as a half? anyways the offense doesn't really consist of driving/slashing/back door cuts etc, but hedo, jameer, arenas, jrich, are more than capable of driving, stan could get more creative in that area

[JF5]

Larry Brown is free... I think the Magic could use him

But yes, SVG's system is bad. His 3 point shooting style offense is getting real annoying. Plus, we've seen it before. It does not win you championships. Plus, he does not know how to adjust. He is also stubborn when taking out a struggling player. Unless that player is a SUPERSTAR, you should plug in someone else into a game who could play better. Stan ever since he has gotten here has not done that.

I think after this season or next, i think the Magic need to find a new coach.

[bigpimpatl]

I feel a lot dumber for having read this thread.

pretty much any thread made by willyjakkz and adonis is an automatic -5 points in the intelligence area.

[bigpimpatl]

Larry Brown is free... I think the Magic could use him

But yes, SVG's system is bad. His 3 point shooting style offense is getting real annoying. Plus, we've seen it before. It does not win you championships. Plus, he does not know how to adjust. He is also stubborn when taking out a struggling player. Unless that player is a SUPERSTAR, you should plug in someone else into a game who could play better. Stan ever since he has gotten here has not done that.

I think after this season or next, i think the Magic need to find a new coach.

let's just wait till the end of the season (you know, after the playoffs and all) to grill the coach.

[maginno]

Maginno I still see you're talkin' loud but ain't sayin' nothin' (as are alot of you guys Cammo comes to mind)..

No answer to the questions noted. Rackin up the dodge and weaves. Or were you trying to say jrich meets the bill and should be used as a post up player on regular basis. Not his game - fail.

So basically

"I have no idea. You've proven your point Maginno"

And I'm stupid because YOU can't answer the question. you are ...hilarious

[magicman123]

i wonder why pietrus got benched in phoenix, maybe because of the dumb three's he was taking which in orlando's offense its ok, even though pietrus is taking less 3's with the suns than he did orlando, rasahrd is taking less with washington than orlando, jrich is taking more with orlando than phoenix, its not a coincidence, this system allows chucking, stan is a great coach but we need some creativity at times..

im not suggesting getting rid of stan, i like stan, and i know he doesn't tell the players not to drive or be aggressive, but why don't we do it enough, why dont we attack a defense that has no shot blockers in the game, why don't we run more when a team isn't good at defending in transition, dwight can get matched up with earl boykins down low and the team will take 5 straight three's...players have obtained bad habits..

im not saying the offense is terrible, but it could be more efficient at times, especially when a team plays dwight one on one, the formula is to guard dwight straight up and stay on the shooters, what do we do now? we stick with the game plan every single game no matter what, boston is a smart team and makes us even more one dimensional, we need more..

[maginno]

than i simply stated that you were smart enough to know the answer to your own question and then i get referenced to a dog who doesn't speak English, its ok though my emotional well being isn't stable anyways so you might be spot on [

Good night learn to read I compared you to a no talent american idol wannabe singing even though they know they can't - not a dog.

But at least you half tried to answer one of the questions. Jameer can take it when it is there for some teams but he's too short to make it a central part of our offense. Plus he of all people has a tendency to launch from all kinds of places on the floor that you know Stan is not telling him to.so that doesn't speak well for the premise that stand is telling them to launch all the threes they can. Hedo as I said has limited ability and Jrich rarely goes to the basket now but probably will if the games really matter (see playoffs).

See thats where you guys show no basketball IQ. Players like Hedo and Jrich don't have the drive to the basket as a regular bread and butter part of their game. they rely on the jumpers to get a good bit of their production. Its early in the season and if thats not your game then you are not going to make it your bread and butter unless the games are critical.

So heres the newsflash. we are not winning the division. We are not going to get top seed AND WE DON'T CARE AND DON'T WANT TO. The franchise player has publicly stated that he will be satisfied ONLY with a ring. The trades went down early so that we can get it together for the playoff run. Nothing could be more stupid than telling players to barrel down the lane in games that two weeks from now won't matter when they are not accustomed to doing so. and frankly if in doing so Jrich got injured there would be a whole slew of people claiming it was Stan's fault too. They would claim he panicked and didn' take his time reintegrating the team.

Those of us who have actually followed the team for awhile must remember when Hedo was here before and over and over Stan called for hedo to take it to the basket in critical playoff games down the stretch. He was the only player he could ask to do it and he did. the problem was that other teams knew after awhile that we had no one else .

This claim that Stan's system involves just shooting threes is total uninformed hogwash.

[maginno]

i wonder why pietrus got benched in phoenix, maybe because of the dumb three's he was taking which in orlando's offense its ok, even though pietrus is taking less 3's with the suns than he did orlando, rasahrd is taking less with washington than orlando, jrich is taking more with orlando than phoenix, its not a coincidence,

Come on man learn some Bball. Of course it not pure coincidence. Its Dwight. Sheeesh captain obvious. teams with dominant centers always tend to have more open outside shots. Pietrus got benched here too because he thinks he's Jordan without the moves to pull off the craziness. So all your observations show is that players with Dwight have more open looks from outside. THE WHOLE NBA KNOWS THAT.

Again we are hoping that Arenas will be that person to add some attacking but cry, whine, deny it all you want gil's not up to that yet. now when you see players beyond Hedo to take it to the rack in critical games and they don't run plays going in then call me . Until then its just a whole lot of hot air.

In short there is no point to be made about being a team that slashes to the basket until you have players that not only can but do. As for rashard I can remember when our guys were sick where he actually decided to take the ball to the rack. Nothing forbad him from doing it. Certainly not Stan But he chose even in playoff games to be near motionless at the arc. Shard would ocassionally do it and no one yanked him as your side claims, He often though settled for the jump shot.