Player Rumor: 3 Team Trade for Dwight

[arkknight1988]

no thanks.

[Bensational]

I, like Orange said, would much rather end up trading Bynum/Martin for lotto picks and rebuilding that way. I don't trust Bynum's knees. And Martin is a scrub.

Oh hell yeah. If there's a choice in the matter, give me Davis any day of the week.

[TSKD000]

So if this trade happens, who plays SF? Martin or JRich? AND, how far do we slip in the East???

Nelson
KMart
JRich
Anderson
Bynum

6th?

[rockynpolo]

Hellz Yeah! Bynum-Anderson-Martin-Big Baby BIG 4 ERA!!! Sign me up

[AntwanBoldin]

What does Houston get out of it? Pau gasol?

Fisher/Kobe/arrest/rasheed/Dwight



By all means go ahead la

[Hon-essim]

So if this trade happens, who plays SF? Martin or JRich? AND, how far do we slip in the East???

Nelson
KMart
JRich
Anderson
Bynum

6th?

Nobody really. It's a roster made for defensive adjustment. No more different than when Dwight was here. You may even see some of the young guys starting over JRich.

Offensively is where things will have to step up. Magic (if all things go well) would be both a deadly fast break + half court shooting team with a lot better ball movement.

I also predict this roster to over-achieve the first few times they play so don't be surprised if this team does a Houston win streak but I still say they are a 4th-5th seed at least. Playoffs are the real question mark. There's no Battier here to make Orlando competitive against any great team so it's going to fall down on the bench being a greater bench than the opposing team. Nelson may even switch off to being an undersized sg if things develop well.

It's not really a great trade but it's far from a horrible one if you really need to deal Dwight by the deadline. At best, with zero hindsight, it's on par with getting VC + Ryno.

[The Real Dalic]

What does Houston get out of it? Pau gasol?

Fisher/Kobe/arrest/rasheed/Dwight



By all means go ahead la

You're purposefully making their deals worse to make the Nets look better... they would most likely get Scola, Meer, and Turk. Meer is an upgrade over Fisher, Turk is probably an upgrade over MWP, and Scola is only slightly worse than Pau... That's a better team than Nets would have if we traded Dwight to the Nets....

[The Real Dalic]

So if this trade happens, who plays SF? Martin or JRich? AND, how far do we slip in the East???

Nelson
KMart
JRich
Anderson
Bynum

6th?

Nobody really. It's a roster made for defensive adjustment. No more different than when Dwight was here. You may even see some of the young guys starting over JRich.

Offensively is where things will have to step up. Magic (if all things go well) would be both a deadly fast break + half court shooting team with a lot better ball movement.

I also predict this roster to over-achieve the first few times they play so don't be surprised if this team does a Houston win streak but I still say they are a 4th-5th seed at least. Playoffs are the real question mark. There's no Battier here to make Orlando competitive against any great team so it's going to fall down on the bench being a greater bench than the opposing team. Nelson may even switch off to being an undersized sg if things develop well.

It's not really a great trade but it's far from a horrible one if you really need to deal Dwight by the deadline. At best, with zero hindsight, it's on par with getting VC + Ryno.

I pretty much agree.

[TSKD000]

What does Houston get out of it? Pau gasol?

Fisher/Kobe/arrest/rasheed/Dwight



By all means go ahead la

You're purposefully making their deals worse to make the Nets look better... they would most likely get Scola, Meer, and Turk. Meer is an upgrade over Fisher, Turk is probably an upgrade over MWP, and Scola is only slightly worse than Pau... That's a better team than Nets would have if we traded Dwight to the Nets....

You are right...Scola is a steal for them. Their starters would be...

Nelson/Kobe/Turk/Scola/Howard.

That teams looks kinda familiar....

[CaliMagicGuy]

if dwight ends up a laker, i might honestly stop watching basketball all together. I would rather him walk then us actually trade him there. Unbelievable the magic would literally be sending the 2 best centers of my time (27 years old... and sans hakeem), to the fxcking lakers. ugh.

[TSKD000]

if dwight ends up a laker, i might honestly stop watching basketball all together. I would rather him walk then us actually trade him there. Unbelievable the magic would literally be sending the 2 best centers of my time (27 years old... and sans hakeem), to the fxcking lakers. ugh.

Eh, IF he is leaving anyways, they might as well send him West. After the last few months, I hate the Nets so much I hope he doesn't go there and Deron leaves them high and dry for Dallas.

[Reverse_Angle]

You are right...Scola is a steal for them. Their starters would be...

Nelson/Kobe/Turk/Scola/Howard.

That teams looks kinda familiar....

wow. that is not a bad team at all. But i think hedo comes off of the bench as a 6th man. kinda like odom, but not really.

why la keeps getting the better end of the deals...

[The Real Dalic]

if dwight ends up a laker, i might honestly stop watching basketball all together. I would rather him walk then us actually trade him there. Unbelievable the magic would literally be sending the 2 best centers of my time (27 years old... and sans hakeem), to the fxcking lakers. ugh.

We didn't "send" Shaq to the Lakers, he left. and what does it matter? if it makes us better faster, than we HAVE to do it... plus, I would prefer they get him than the Nets, who have been playing dirty from the beginning.....

[shortodom]

how can anyone hate the "deal" when all the details aren't even there. I'm sure you guys will end up with a pick or a couple of them and might even send Turk or Jameer. you can tell people are gonna find a reason to hate it even if you guys get picks and get rid of Turk and Jameer. If it did happen of course

[Hon-essim]

Btw I wouldn't hate on the Nets yet. The shortcoming could be filled by a 4 team trade especially the Nets depending on how willing they are on giving up Deron.

Obviously the details might change and this would be pushing it but if LA manages to get Scola + Deron, Houston gets Brook + Pau, Nets get Dwight, ORL gets Parsons + Bynum...all sides balances out more. It would be a mess to offer though. Just saying that the Nets may be the key to making the LA deal a less than ideal trade for them but still something that the Lakers would definitely want.

[ADRajX]

how can anyone hate the "deal" when all the details aren't even there. I'm sure you guys will end up with a pick or a couple of them and might even send Turk or Jameer. you can tell people are gonna find a reason to hate it even if you guys get picks and get rid of Turk and Jameer. If it did happen of course

People hate the deal because no one wants a 30 year old "can't create his own shot" Kevin Martin or scrub Chandler Parsons... and Bynum (even though imo he's better than Lopez and the 2nd best Center in the league) does not make this deal better than NJ's (where you get Lopez [a guy I hate, but is a good scoring Center, even with all his crappiness on defense/rebounding], Brooks [way better than K-Mart imo and with upside], filler and draft picks [better than Parsons and draft pick])... and may I remind everyone, I hate the NJ deal... so when the NJ deal is better than this rumored LA/Hou deal... that's not a good thing for Magic fans... we have a major problem on our hands.

I know there are smaller pieces missing, but they aren't really important. The main pieces have already been named... also why would we send you Jameer if we aren't getting a PG in return? Duhon is terrible as a starting PG. You're starting line-up would look like Nelson, Kobe, Hedo, Scola, Dwight... you guys come out looking like bandits in that trade.

I rue the day this trade happens... I hope it doesn't

And it wouldn't matter if you guys take back bad contracts... any deal involving Howard will require the team to take back a bad contract or two.

That LA/Minny/Orl rumored trade was way better than this crap imo... and that's saying a lot.

[Hon-essim]

I'm not sold on K-Mart not being able to create his own shot. Obviously he's declined a lot but he was always more Devin Harris than Reggie. He could still be a Jannero Pargo if he wants to methinks.

Obviously his upside is low but that's more of a plus than a minus. If you can't trade him, you still have a veteran for rebuilding. If you can trade him, he's a less risky bet for a pick than a young player.

Draft picks...I think that really depends on how Chandler Parsons play out. Looks like a guy SVG can develop compared to Brooks whose game seems to have reached a ceiling and is more about him individually getting better rather than developing any new type of aspect to his game.

Brook is the biggest issue because just like Melo, he can be a black hole and he's almost the opposite of what this team needs. Scoring teams always need more of a passer that can get them confident rather than superstar scorers. It's why Derek Fisher still has a starting spot. He's one of the few players that can shoot well playing along a shooting maniac superstar.

On the other hand with Bynum, you fill a gap on defense. A big heavy gap and on offense the passing would improve plus you get a more traditional big working alongside Ryno.

Setting future draft picks aside, it's by far the best trade offer I've read for Dwight in a long while. That's actually a back handed compliment but still...NJ deal relies on the talent developing extremely well for Orl while helping settle NJ's roster. This deal does not need for the talent to over-achieve. It's a trade that fits Orlando better. Only Scola makes this horrendous.

[ADRajX]

I'm not sold on K-Mart not being able to create his own shot. Obviously he's declined a lot but he was always more Devin Harris than Reggie. He could still be a Jannero Pargo if he wants to methinks.

Obviously his upside is low but that's more of a plus than a minus. If you can't trade him, you still have a veteran for rebuilding. If you can trade him, he's a less risky bet for a pick than a young player.

Draft picks...I think that really depends on how Chandler Parsons play out. Looks like a guy SVG can develop compared to Brooks whose game seems to have reached a ceiling and is more about him individually getting better rather than developing any new type of aspect to his game...

^I don't understand your Devin Harris/Reggie Miller comment... but trust me when I say this... I watch a lot of Rockets and Kings (when K-Mart played for them) games... Kevin Martin is not what you need. You're basically getting a slightly better J-Rich at this stage in his career, with better scoring/shooting and lesser athleticism (and that's not a good thing)... and with the NBA banning the rip-move, his game has suffered... he doesn't pass well, he volume shoots like a mofo, he doesn't make plays for anyone else nor can he create for himself unless he's given an on-the-ball or off-the-ball screen [and even then, he's very LIMITED in doing so. He has mediocre court vision], his defense is porous, and all he does is shoot/score (or drive and flail/flop to create contact and go to the line... he scores most of his points at the FT line OR, you guessed it, making 3-point shots... fml)... now add to the fact he'll be 30 by early next season and his eventual slow decline (he's not that athletic to begin with) makes him and this trade not worth it... unless we're flipping K-Mart for someone like Ellis, this deal is garbage imo... there is a reason why a lot of Rockets fans want K-Mart to be moved.

As for Parsons... as a Florida Gator and Gainesville resident for the past 6 years, having watched him play... he's a talented kid... a near carbon copy of a younger Hedo Turkoglu... and he'll end up being a good role player one day... but that's it... nothing more, nothing less.

[AntwanBoldin]

Btw I wouldn't hate on the Nets yet. The shortcoming could be filled by a 4 team trade especially the Nets depending on how willing they are on giving up Deron.

Obviously the details might change and this would be pushing it but if LA manages to get Scola + Deron, Houston gets Brook + Pau, Nets get Dwight, ORL gets Parsons + Bynum...all sides balances out more. It would be a mess to offer though. Just saying that the Nets may be the key to making the LA deal a less than ideal trade for them but still something that the Lakers would definitely want.

Wut?

The nets aren't trading deron Williams before Dwight signs a new contract w/ someone

[AntwanBoldin]

TSKD000 wrote:

You are right...Scola is a steal for them. Their starters would be...

Nelson/Kobe/Turk/Scola/Howard.

That teams looks kinda familiar....
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And who does Orlando start at pg?

God they'd be mediocre . Capped out and no picks. It'd be purgatory