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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#81 » by Ahmadab » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:11 pm

David Baumann ‏@DavidBaumann33
4 those wondering about Jameer Nelson's contract. I talked to agent Steve Mountain. He has an agreement with Hennigan to keep sealed. But...

The $19.7M is complete bologna. I was told: There is no 1, no 9 and no 7 in the total. NBAPA and Salary Cap office won't divulge either..


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Post#82 » by Ahmadab » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:13 pm

Also

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I found out thru NBAPA it is a three year deal for Jameer Nelson, but total is under wraps.
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Post#83 » by ChildishGambino » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:40 pm

what's the secrecy for? this is Jameer Nelson not Chris Paul or Steve Nash.....
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Post#84 » by Def Swami » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:42 pm

Ahmadab wrote:
David Baumann ‏@DavidBaumann33
4 those wondering about Jameer Nelson's contract. I talked to agent Steve Mountain. He has an agreement with Hennigan to keep sealed. But...

The $19.7M is complete bologna. I was told: There is no 1, no 9 and no 7 in the total. NBAPA and Salary Cap office won't divulge either..


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wtf :-?
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Post#85 » by ChildishGambino » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:00 pm

3/22 million?
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Post#86 » by OrlandO » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:03 pm

3/30 million?
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Post#87 » by Def Swami » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:05 pm

How is Eric Pincus so sure of his 3/25 number then?
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Post#88 » by silent1900 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:08 pm

Ahmadab wrote:
David Baumann ‏@DavidBaumann33
4 those wondering about Jameer Nelson's contract. I talked to agent Steve Mountain. He has an agreement with Hennigan to keep sealed. But...

The $19.7M is complete bologna. I was told: There is no 1, no 9 and no 7 in the total. NBAPA and Salary Cap office won't divulge either..


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WTF...did he and his source play a Price is Right game to get to the number?
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Post#89 » by arsenal6106 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:08 pm

Ahmadab wrote:
David Baumann ‏@DavidBaumann33
4 those wondering about Jameer Nelson's contract. I talked to agent Steve Mountain. He has an agreement with Hennigan to keep sealed. But...

The $19.7M is complete bologna. I was told: There is no 1, no 9 and no 7 in the total. NBAPA and Salary Cap office won't divulge either..


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Yeah he just messaged me this. Weird.

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Post#90 » by OrlandoMajinBuu » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:37 pm

3 yr(s) / $25,200,000

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/orlando-magic/jameer-nelson/

3rd year no guarantee(UFA)... = 2 yr(s) / 17,200,000 ???
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Post#91 » by Ahmadab » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:38 pm

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Ahmadab wrote:
David Baumann ‏@DavidBaumann33
4 those wondering about Jameer Nelson's contract. I talked to agent Steve Mountain. He has an agreement with Hennigan to keep sealed. But...

The $19.7M is complete bologna. I was told: There is no 1, no 9 and no 7 in the total. NBAPA and Salary Cap office won't divulge either..


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Yeah he just messaged me this. Weird.

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Post#92 » by AdamTheGreek » Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:40 pm

I would bet a lot of money that Dwight gets dealt during my vacation. I'm flying to Greece August 4th, and coming back into town August 18th. Dwight will be gone by then.
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Post#93 » by Bensational » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:30 pm

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Bensational wrote:i find it a struggle to believe that the relationship between Dwight and the Magic can be salvaged, but i can only dream that with the recent talk of a Harden extension in Oklahoma not being a certainty, that Hennigan has a secret plan to target him as a max FA next summer to partner next to Dwight. heck, even if Dwight bails, i'd love Harden as a cornerstone to starting the franchise again.

all we'd have to do is cut Turk so he's only on the $6M that's guaranteed, find a taker for JRich for an expiring this season, and waive JJ, and we'll have enough to offer a max deal next year.

Dwight/O'Quinn
BBD/Nicholson
[insert rookie/FA]
Harden/Liggins
Jameer

that puts us right back on track to challenge Miami, IMO.


Harden to me is Joe Johnson again. a player that will get max money, but isnt the type of player to be a #1 option.

and sorry, but that team above does not challenge Miami.


THAT team doesn't, but as i said, it puts us right back on track. a Howard/Harden core would be one of the best duos in the league. Harden may well be Joe Johnson 2.0, but he also might be a much better closer than he's had the chance to demonstrate since he's sharing a ball with Westbrook and Durant. i'd take that chance on him. if not, we still have Nelson and he still has a strong history of being a closer.

Dwight Howard is still the best weapon against Miami. it takes a lot of effort for them to defend him, he opens up options for all our other pieces, and he does a great job of disrupting their offense, particularly LBJ and Wade getting easy buckets in the post.

with Henny onboard, i have no doubt that we could find a future SF through the draft, but in the short term, having expendable options like BBD/Ayon might actually help us find that right SF to complete the lineup. imagine if Iggy opts out of his deal next summer and looks to sign somewhere for nothing. you think Philly might consider a s&t that sends BBD + filler back to them then?

Howard/O'Quinn
Nicholson/Ayon
Iggy
Harden
Nelson

THAT is a team to challenge Miami.
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Post#94 » by Chet Wagner » Sun Jul 29, 2012 10:52 pm

That team isn't even possible.

I don't really understand where your idea that we would have money for a max is coming from. Dwight will be a $20.5M cap hold, even if we somehow got rid of 2 years of JRich for an expiring (already leaning towards fantasy) and waived all the others we'd still have more like 10 mil in space, certainly not the 14 or so Harden is going to get

Not to mention S&Ts are ending
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Post#95 » by magicman123 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:14 pm

dwight: $22mil
jameer: $8.6mil
davis: $6.4mil
jrich: $6.2mil
hedo: $6mil
duhon: $1.5mil

$51mil

add in nicholson and any other rookies, signings etc: ?

plus

Q: $2.8mil player option
Gustavo: $1.5mi lteam option
OTHER CAP HOLDS

good luck on a max contract
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Post#96 » by DMack78 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:20 pm

AdamTheGreek wrote:I would bet a lot of money that Dwight gets dealt during my vacation. I'm flying to Greece August 4th, and coming back into town August 18th. Dwight will be gone by then.


well if you're gonna make that prediction you also gotta predict where he's gonna end up. LOL
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Post#97 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:23 pm

silent1900 wrote:
Ahmadab wrote:
David Baumann ‏@DavidBaumann33
4 those wondering about Jameer Nelson's contract. I talked to agent Steve Mountain. He has an agreement with Hennigan to keep sealed. But...

The $19.7M is complete bologna. I was told: There is no 1, no 9 and no 7 in the total. NBAPA and Salary Cap office won't divulge either..


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WTF...did he and his source play a Price is Right game to get to the number?


2 years, $0, 3rd year 20 mil player option
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Post#98 » by arsenal6106 » Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:37 pm

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arsenal6106 wrote:Yeah he just messaged me this. Weird.

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Lol, I was referring to the contract situation being weird. David messaged me b/c I initially told him to look into Meer's contract.
Props to David from coming through with good info.
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Post#99 » by AdamTheGreek » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:00 am

DMack78 wrote:
AdamTheGreek wrote:I would bet a lot of money that Dwight gets dealt during my vacation. I'm flying to Greece August 4th, and coming back into town August 18th. Dwight will be gone by then.


well if you're gonna make that prediction you also gotta predict where he's gonna end up. LOL


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Post#100 » by mhectorgato » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:27 am

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Ahmadab wrote:
arsenal6106 wrote:Yeah he just messaged me this. Weird.

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Lol, I was referring to the contract situation being weird. David messaged me b/c I initially told him to look into Meer's contract.
Props to David from coming through with good info.


Any additional info, other than it's not 19.7, or 1 or 9 or 7?
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