Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIV Off-Season Edition)

Post #81 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:58 pm

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports
Looks like this latest Dwight deal may happen. At least as of right now.

Strap in and hope we can at least net Bynum.

LarsV8 · Post #82 » by **LarsV8** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:58 pm

Gasol to Houston doesn't make sense anymore.

Tayswagzzz · Post #83 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:58 pm

Bynum and Affalo good enough for me.

BadMofoPimp · Post #84 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 7:59 pm

I have watched Aflalo play in this league since his rookie year in Detroit being I am a Pistons fan also. He was the 27th pick in the draft and worked his way up from being a Bench warmer to the point where he was pushing Rip Hamilton, which made him expendable to the Nuggets. Of which, I am still angry with Joe Dumars for making that trade. Regardless, a true defensive specialist that has developed a very nice 3 point shot. A solid starter for most teams in the league.

OOO · Post #85 » by **OOO** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:01 pm

Moultrie and Morris. Please.

BelgianMagic · Post #86 » by **BelgianMagic** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:03 pm

Bynum & Afflalo would be great
Gasol & Afflalo would be disappointing

Gasol can't get you anything of value, Lakers have tried for the past 1,5 years now ..

Hotshot Hower · Post #87 » by **Hotshot Hower** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:03 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
Zmill wrote:
Hotshot Hower wrote:If end of this Dwightmare has Magic netting Bynum and Affalo, it's a happy ending.
You throw in Ebanks w/ picks and cap relief, I then propose to Henny.

This right here.. You can tell Affalo is a guy Henny is big on

Scott Perry is big on Affalo. I think he was part of Detroit FO that scouted & drafted him. I know Henny like Ebanks.

OOO wrote:Henny should try and get Darius Morris in that deal also. 6'4'' point guard who reminds me a lot of Andre Miller.

I like that idea.

Jameer/Morris
Affalo/Redick/Liggins
Ebanks/Turk
Davis/Nicholson
Bynum/KO/Ayon

Great point Nyce_1!

ShowTimeERA · Post #88 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:07 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:Bynum & Afflalo would be great
Gasol & Afflalo would be disappointing

Gasol can't get you anything of value, Lakers have tried for the past 1,5 years now ..

Minny has been trying to get LA to bite dangling D.Williams, Wesley Johnson, picks, etc. for Gasol, as has Washington...Atlanta also wanted to trade Josh Smith for Pau but that went no where when LA requested for Teague as well..

OrlChamps2030 · Post #89 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:08 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
Zmill wrote:
Hotshot Hower wrote:If end of this Dwightmare has Magic netting Bynum and Affalo, it's a happy ending.
You throw in Ebanks w/ picks and cap relief, I then propose to Henny.

This right here.. You can tell Affalo is a guy Henny is big on

Scott Perry is big on Affalo. I think he was part of Detroit FO that scouted & drafted him. I know Henny like Ebanks.

OOO wrote:Henny should try and get Darius Morris in that deal also. 6'4'' point guard who reminds me a lot of Andre Miller.

I like that idea.

Jameer/Morris
Affalo/Redick/Liggins
Ebanks/Turk
Davis/Nicholson
Bynum/KO/Ayon

I should have said Henny & his Guys because Perry is one of his guys but yeah.. Good point

High IQ, length, athleticism, shooting

magic_turk · Post #90 » by **magic_turk** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:09 pm

If we can get Bynum+Afflalo+Ebanks+Picks+Cap relief then this trade has massive WIN all over it..

Post #91 » by **UCFJayBird** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:11 pm

Hotshot Hower wrote:
UCFJayBird wrote:can anyone summarize the rumored deal? I can't follow closely and sift through all these pages at work, lol

Here's framework of "rumored" 4-team trade:

Magic send: Dwight Howard
Magic receive: Pau Gasol (OR Bynum) and Arron Affalo/picks/cap relief

Lakers send: Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol
Lakers receive: Dwight Howard and Al Harrington

Sixers send: Andre Iguodala
Sixers receive: Andrew Bynum (or Pau Gasol)

Nuggets send: Arron Affalo and Al Harrington
Nuggets receive: Andre Iguodala

From Woj:
Nevertheless, there was still a sense that Gasol's and Bynum's destinations could be fluid in the talks. Either way, one would go to Orlando and the other to Philadelphia, sources said.

Thanks!

Bynum and Afflalo sounds good to me. Better be getting a lot more picks if it's Gasol, lol.

BelgianMagic · Post #92 » by **BelgianMagic** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:12 pm

ShowTimeERA wrote:Minny has been trying to get LA to bite dangling D.Williams, Wesley Johnson, picks, etc. for Gasol, as has Washington...Atlanta also wanted to trade Josh Smith for Pau but that went no where when LA requested for Teague as well..

He may have been worth something 2 yrs ago, but right now? 32yrs, still owed lotta money, declining ..

Don't get me wrong, I've been a huge fan of his. But he's not the player he was 2yrs ago ..

flying_mollusk · Post #93 » by **flying_mollusk** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:12 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:Is Afflalo that much of an upgrade over JJ?

I like JJ, but he isnt as good as Afflalo. JJ is mostly a 3 point shooter who uses his 3 point threat to get jumpers. AA is much more physical and a better defender. Look at AA's overall FG% compared to JJ. AA is a better SG.

Showbiz Bear · Post #94 » by **Showbiz Bear** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:12 pm

Eff Gasol. I want nothing to do with that hot mess.

Afflalo I couldn't care less about. Bynum has always been the real equalizer for me. We nab him, it's a solid trade.

Magic#1 · Post #95 » by **Magic#1** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:12 pm

ShowTimeERA wrote:
BelgianMagic wrote:Bynum & Afflalo would be great
Gasol & Afflalo would be disappointing

Gasol can't get you anything of value, Lakers have tried for the past 1,5 years now ..

Minny has been trying to get LA to bite dangling D.Williams, Wesley Johnson, picks, etc. for Gasol, as has Washington...Atlanta also wanted to trade Josh Smith for Pau but that went no where when LA requested for Teague as well..

Agreed. We could get some pretty decent parts for Gasol. Probably not great, but some decent pieces. LA didn't trade him because they weren't interested in young players/picks like we would be.

OOO · Post #96 » by **OOO** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:14 pm

We can easily trade Gasol to the Wolves for Williams and picks. Don't know if Atlanta is still interested.

BelgianMagic · Post #97 » by **BelgianMagic** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:14 pm

Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports
The Magic want Pau, and I understand that, but if Pau was the desired piece, why wait so long to ask for him?

Hotshot Hower · Post #98 » by **Hotshot Hower** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:14 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Jarrod N Rudolph ‏@JRudolphSports
Looks like this latest Dwight deal may happen. At least as of right now.

Strap in and hope we can at least net Bynum.

ShowTimeERA · Post #99 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:14 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:
ShowTimeERA wrote:Minny has been trying to get LA to bite dangling D.Williams, Wesley Johnson, picks, etc. for Gasol, as has Washington...Atlanta also wanted to trade Josh Smith for Pau but that went no where when LA requested for Teague as well..

He may have been worth something 2 yrs ago, but right now? 32yrs, still owed lotta money, declining ..

Don't get me wrong, I've been a huge fan of his. But he's not the player he was 2yrs ago ..

Well everything I just stated occurred during draft night 2012...

dsg2021 · Post #100 » by **dsg2021** » Thu Aug 9, 2012 8:15 pm

I bet it's going to be out Dwight, J Rich, Duhon.

Enter Afflalo, Quincy Miller, Izzet Turky rights, Nikola Vucecic, 2-4 1st's from LAL/DEN/PHI sides, and Gasol.

Transition Gasol out immediately or early season, for one lotto and prospect, or prospects and 1-2 later 1st's.

Same savvy trading if anything good pops up for a rebuilding, using veterans BBD, JJ, Afflalo or Jameer as bait. Try to naturally and trade-wise, get more lotto(s) for 2-3+ seasons in a row, around Miller, Nicholson, Liggins (my top 3 prospects) with maybe 1 or 2 remaining middle age vets like Afflalo and JJ.