Do you think Aaron Gordon will emerge as a breakout star this year?

[Skin]

I think people are downplaying the fact that he will be playing for a contract extension. I'm expecting a much more aggressive Aaron Gordon than he has been in the past. An 18-20 ppg season qualifies him as a breakout star in my book.

That is more than the "solid starter" label that people want to rate his upside at now.

He'll have to top 20ppg and at least 8rpg for me to consider him to be a breakout star.

I mean, Tobias Harris was good for 17/7 nd he got nothing but hate.

That's cause he struggled on D.

[tiderulz]

I think people are downplaying the fact that he will be playing for a contract extension. I'm expecting a much more aggressive Aaron Gordon than he has been in the past. An 18-20 ppg season qualifies him as a breakout star in my book.

That is more than the "solid starter" label that people want to rate his upside at now.

He'll have to top 20ppg and at least 8rpg for me to consider him to be a breakout star.

I mean, Tobias Harris was good for 17/7 nd he got nothing but hate.

That's cause he struggled on D.

he was actually playing good D his last year here

[OrlandO]

Define "breakout star." Because I don't think anybody on this roster is going to have the opportunity to score more than 17-18 ppg even if they're capable of it.

[drsd]

Define "breakout star." Because I don't think anybody on this roster is going to have the opportunity to score more than 17-18 ppg even if they're capable of it.

Fully agree.

Vučević or Fournier are offensively capable of 17 fga per game to become 20 ppg guys, but that won't happen.
(for either to get to 20 ppg on 15 or 16 shots per, they need to get to the line a lot more then they ever past showed capable).

Indeed the last Magician to have 17 fga per game was Steve Francis way back in 2004-05. That "record" is essentially not breakable this year as there is no ball-hog on the roster. (and there is no player on the roster that is worthy of those kind of shot attempts per game).

As a comparison, Mr. McGrady was routinely tacking more than 20+ fga as a player when he was a scoring monster.

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[Bensational]

Define "breakout star." Because I don't think anybody on this roster is going to have the opportunity to score more than 17-18 ppg even if they're capable of it.

If anyone has had the chance, it's Vuc, closely followed by Fournier. Vuc averaged just over 15fgas for March and April last season. And he averaged over 16fgas for the 2 seasons prior.

Last season Dragic, Conley, Lopez, Bledsoe, Griffin, Hayward, Lowry and Giannis managed to score 20ppg+ on the same or fewer shots.

I think Fournier could quite easily do it, if we gave him 3 more shots a game. If that translated to wins, who knows. But he could do it.

[Max Power]

I think Aaron Gordon becomes a good, solid NBA player, but if he were a star we'd have seen that turn by now. He doesn't have elite scoring ability or playmaking ability. All stars have those. Aaron Gordon was drafted on his immense athleticism, but he's average at best everywhere else. I think he's worked himself into a serviceable player but he'll never be a lead dog on an NBA team in my view.


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[Tricky_Kid]

I thought about Gordon as a pick to my fantasy team.
I wonder what his position will be this year more PF or SF and with who he will be sharing minutes?

[j-ragg]

I thought about Gordon as a pick to my fantasy team.
I wonder what his position will be this year more PF or SF and with who he will be sharing minutes?

They learned from last year that he's strictly a 4. He's better at guarding the perimeter than bigs though so he'll still probably guard 3s most of the time.

We don't really have a clue yet how the rotation will go. It's a logjam imo. Birch, Speights, Isaac or even Hezonja could be the others getting minutes at the 4.

[cedric76]

I think Aaron Gordon becomes a good, solid NBA player, but if he were a star we'd have seen that turn by now. He doesn't have elite scoring ability or playmaking ability. All stars have those. Aaron Gordon was drafted on his immense athleticism, but he's average at best everywhere else. I think he's worked himself into a serviceable player but he'll never be a lead dog on an NBA team in my view.


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Seen it by now? Lol

AG is younger than some rookies, give him a break , he still has a lot to show

[pepe1991]

I think Aaron Gordon becomes a good, solid NBA player, but if he were a star we'd have seen that turn by now. He doesn't have elite scoring ability or playmaking ability. All stars have those. Aaron Gordon was drafted on his immense athleticism, but he's average at best everywhere else. I think he's worked himself into a serviceable player but he'll never be a lead dog on an NBA team in my view.


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Seen it by now? Lol

AG is younger than some rookies, give him a break , he still has a lot to show

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Took Porzingis one month of rookie year to show that he has star potential. KAT needed like 5 games to do the same, Davis averaged more points, rebounds and blocks ,had higher FG ,free trow percentage and TS% at age of 18-19 than Gordon in his third year.

That's how stars look. It's interesting, to say a least, how nobody else but some

Spoiler:

delusional

Magic fans view him as future star, but again, same people were yelling he is new Paul Geroge 365 days ago and he was Dr.Green 400 days ago to same people, new Blake Griffin 1000 days ago. Hell, i saw some Lebron comparisons "with passing upside" in 2014

[drsd]

Magic fans view him as future star, but again, same people were yelling he is new Paul Geroge 365 days ago and he was Dr.Green 400 days ago to same people, new Blake Griffin 1000 days ago. Hell, i saw some Lebron comparisons "with passing upside" in 2014

I agree that this is THE critical season for Gordon. If he does not get-better, the Magic will shop for a new starting PF.

But to look at some numbers.

Paul George
20yo - 7ppg/4rpg
21yo - 12ppg/5rpg
22yo - 17ppg/7rpg

Aaron Gordon
20yo - 9ppg/6rpg (better than George)
21yo - 12ppg/5rpg (same as George)
22yo - time to earn your pay check!

If Gordon has a 17/7 season this season, we fans can be comfortable with him over the longer term. But another 12/5 season will not be enough.


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[Bensational]

I think Aaron Gordon becomes a good, solid NBA player, but if he were a star we'd have seen that turn by now. He doesn't have elite scoring ability or playmaking ability. All stars have those. Aaron Gordon was drafted on his immense athleticism, but he's average at best everywhere else. I think he's worked himself into a serviceable player but he'll never be a lead dog on an NBA team in my view.


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Seen it by now? Lol

AG is younger than some rookies, give him a break , he still has a lot to show

¸
Took Porzingis one month of rookie year to show that he has star potential. KAT needed like 5 games to do the same, Davis averaged more points, rebounds and blocks ,had higher FG ,free trow percentage and TS% at age of 18-19 than Gordon in his third year.

That's how stars look. It's interesting, to say a least, how nobody else but some

Spoiler:

delusional

Magic fans view him as future star, but again, same people were yelling he is new Paul Geroge 365 days ago and he was Dr.Green 400 days ago to same people, new Blake Griffin 1000 days ago. Hell, i saw some Lebron comparisons "with passing upside" in 2014

Nah, he's more Kawhi Leonard than any of those guys.

[Max Power]

Cedric you can LOL me all you want, the fact is my point has been backed up by Gordon's play. There have been virtually no flashes of superstar play in 3 seasons other than maybe 5 games per year. Fact is by year 3, it doesn't take those guys 4 years to break a glass ceiling. Gordon is a good player, but a star still eludes us. Maybe Issac becomes that guy, but it's not Gordon.


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[JF5]

Magic fans view him as future star, but again, same people were yelling he is new Paul Geroge 365 days ago and he was Dr.Green 400 days ago to same people, new Blake Griffin 1000 days ago. Hell, i saw some Lebron comparisons "with passing upside" in 2014

I agree that this is THE critical season for Gordon. If he does not get-better, the Magic will shop for a new starting PF.

But to look at some numbers.

Paul George
20yo - 7ppg/4rpg
21yo - 12ppg/5rpg
22yo - 17ppg/7rpg

Aaron Gordon
20yo - 9ppg/6rpg (better than George)
21yo - 12ppg/5rpg (same as George)
22yo - time to earn your pay check!

If Gordon has a 17/7 season this season, we fans can be comfortable with him over the longer term. But another 12/5 season will not be enough.


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Gordon better hope he doesn't have a "pedestrian" 17/7 like a Tobias Harris because George was an all-star caliber player who took his team to the ECF and took the eventual Champions in the Miami Heat to a game 7.

[pepe1991]

Magic fans view him as future star, but again, same people were yelling he is new Paul Geroge 365 days ago and he was Dr.Green 400 days ago to same people, new Blake Griffin 1000 days ago. Hell, i saw some Lebron comparisons "with passing upside" in 2014

I agree that this is THE critical season for Gordon. If he does not get-better, the Magic will shop for a new starting PF.

But to look at some numbers.

Paul George
20yo - 7ppg/4rpg
21yo - 12ppg/5rpg
22yo - 17ppg/7rpg

Aaron Gordon
20yo - 9ppg/6rpg (better than George)
21yo - 12ppg/5rpg (same as George)
22yo - time to earn your pay check!

If Gordon has a 17/7 season this season, we fans can be comfortable with him over the longer term. But another 12/5 season will not be enough.


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Gordon better hope he doesn't have a "pedestrian" 17/7 like a Tobias Harris because George was an all-star caliber player who took his team to the ECF and took the eventual Champions in the Miami Heat to a game 7.

yea, 19 ppg, 7,4 prg ,5 apg in playoffs where he was go to guy in conference finals team.

[SOUL]

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Probably an encouraging list if you're not the best perimeter shooter.

[drsd]

Gordon better hope he doesn't have a "pedestrian" 17/7 like a Tobias Harris because George was an all-star caliber player who took his team to the ECF and took the eventual Champions in the Miami Heat to a game 7.

Frankly I would be pleased if Gordon's upside is Harris. A "pedestrian" PF is fine for Orlando as the modern NBA roster is built on the wing. (and Orlando is thus in desperate need of SF scoring).


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[drsd]

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My problem with this list is that 4 of these players are what modern PFs look like. So those are bigs. Indeed it means only Harden, who played a LOT of PG last year, is the list. That is, I see this a a list of one player.


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[tiderulz]

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Probably an encouraging list if you're not the best perimeter shooter.

Gordon's usage went up when he moved back to PF. I wonder how many of those attempts came with that move back

[pepe1991]

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Probably an encouraging list if you're not the best perimeter shooter.

Gordon's usage went up when he moved back to PF. I wonder how many of those attempts came with that move back

He had 99 dunks i think last year, that's best FGA you can take