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Official Spec Thread: Heart and Hustle Magic 2.0

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Re: Official Spec Thread: New Head Coach Era 

Post#81 » by bigdogdylan5 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 2:23 pm

Def Swami wrote:I don't think there needs to be any urgency to make any of these decisions. Just let the season play out. The team will get enough information on how to build going forward through training camp, preseason, and regular season.

The first decision will be Bamba vs Carter since those extensions are coming up. I can't see us paying both guys next season. Picking the right one or punting on both will be a vital choice.

Exactly this! No reason to rush to a move. I want to see Fultz and Suggs play wouldn’t mind seeing a Suggs Anthony duo. Just try stuff and see what works. Can RJ play the 3 if he is taller? Hell I would even try a crazy small ball lineup like Suggs Anthony Fultz Hampton Isaac (I obviously wouldn’t play that for very long but **** try it out) See what works and what the future of this team is. I think we need to get 1-2 more 3/4 and maybe a third 5 to fill out the deep bench and we are set. Next year should be the year of decisions. What pick do we have? Bamba or Carter? Fultz or Anthony? Did Isaac stay healthy? All these guys are way to young to give up on any of them. There is no downside in getting another year of data.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: New Head Coach Era 

Post#82 » by basketballRob » Sun Aug 1, 2021 2:48 pm

Bamba's latest pick dump in IG shows Markelle working out at the Magic facility. It's pretty funny.

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Post#83 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:12 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
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Ralof wrote:that backcourt is crowded,even after we trade ross or g.harris.
fultz-anthony-suggs-ross/harris-hampton

even with rj getting minutes as small forward and ross or harris traded we are gonna be too many for two spots;and i am not even count mcw that is still under contract

that said,is something we could figure later in the season,fultz will be on minutes restriction for a while,but at some point we'll have to.

already made the same mistake last time we rebuild


Between Suggs, Fultz, Anthony, and Hampton, there will be an odd man out. I predict Anthony. Mostly because he is already pretty close to his ceiling and the Magic might as well get value now for him.

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Fultz is closer to his ceiling then Anthony. Fultz has yet to find a respectable jump shot
Cole has hit some big shots/game winning plays already in year one. You can’t teach that. There’s nobody I trust more to make and make a big shot than Cole right now. No way should they trade him. I’d rather move RJ or Fultz if they feel they have a o move someone.
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Re: Official Spec Thread: New Head Coach Era 

Post#84 » by TDJacksonville » Sun Aug 1, 2021 10:37 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
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Between Suggs, Fultz, Anthony, and Hampton, there will be an odd man out. I predict Anthony. Mostly because he is already pretty close to his ceiling and the Magic might as well get value now for him.

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Fultz is closer to his ceiling then Anthony. Fultz has yet to find a respectable jump shot
Cole has hit some big shots/game winning plays already in year one. You can’t teach that. There’s nobody I trust more to make and make a big shot than Cole right now. No way should they trade him. I’d rather move RJ or Fultz if they feel they have a o move someone.

I'd trade fultz between those 2 purely cuz no jump shot and his salary
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Post#85 » by nicnac215 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 10:40 pm

Cole is going to get his number retired here. He isn't going anywhere. He and Suggs can be like Zeke and Dumars for the bad boy Pistons.
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Post#86 » by slamjunkie » Sun Aug 1, 2021 11:14 pm

Anyone interested in Malik Monk?
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Post#87 » by Magicfanatic82 » Sun Aug 1, 2021 11:30 pm

slamjunkie wrote:Anyone interested in Malik Monk?

Nope, will take time from better prospects.
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Post#88 » by Rick Rolled » Mon Aug 2, 2021 4:47 pm

https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-free-agency-kyle-lowry-ben-simmons-kawhi-leonard-news-rumors-trades

Orlando is set to lock up Wendell Carter Jr. on a large long-term deal. Rival executives believe it will top $70 million
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Re: Official Spec Thread: New Head Coach Era 

Post#89 » by jvdas » Mon Aug 2, 2021 5:01 pm

Rick Rolled wrote:https://www.actionnetwork.com/nba/nba-free-agency-kyle-lowry-ben-simmons-kawhi-leonard-news-rumors-trades

Orlando is set to lock up Wendell Carter Jr. on a large long-term deal. Rival executives believe it will top $70 million


If that is true, this is a horrible decision. WCJ showed nothing for getting a contract like that.
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Post#90 » by PrimeThyme » Mon Aug 2, 2021 5:06 pm

I think I've been one of the bigger WCJ supporters on this board, but I would not pay that price tag. Something in the 40 range with his injury history and skillset seems like a much fairer value.
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Post#91 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 2, 2021 5:07 pm

4 yrs 70m for WCJ isn't bad. 17.5m per year. Hopefully it's a descending deal.

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Post#92 » by nicnac215 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 5:12 pm

basketballRob wrote:4 yrs 70m for WCJ isn't bad. 17.5m per year. Hopefully it's a descending deal.

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I was thinking 5 years/70m would be only way 70m is fair. $14m/year is solid
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Post#93 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 2, 2021 5:17 pm

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basketballRob wrote:4 yrs 70m for WCJ isn't bad. 17.5m per year. Hopefully it's a descending deal.

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I was thinking 5 years/70m would be only way 70m is fair. $14m/year is solid
They could probably add a games played incentive also, like Isaac's contract.

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Post#94 » by dsg2021 » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:26 pm

Always saw WCJ as the COTF.. love the move if WCJ can be relatively healthy. And I hope we make sure of it by playing backup Centers a lot of minutes, like Bamba this season.
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Post#95 » by tiderulz » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:51 pm

basketballRob wrote:4 yrs 70m for WCJ isn't bad. 17.5m per year. Hopefully it's a descending deal.

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yes it is. he is average at best AND cant stay healthy. $17.5 mil a year is highway robbery.

Capella makes $17 and provides loads more. for other comparable centers (arguably more impactful too)

Brook Lopez $13m
Wood $14m
Turner $18m
Jonas $14mil
Nurkic $12m
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Post#96 » by tiderulz » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:53 pm

dsg2021 wrote:Always saw WCJ as the COTF.. love the move if WCJ can be relatively healthy. And I hope we make sure of it by playing backup Centers a lot of minutes, like Bamba this season.


undersized center with bad outside shot, not great passer, not a shot blocker, no rim protection. what says COTF to you?
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Re: Official Spec Thread: New Head Coach Era 

Post#97 » by basketballRob » Mon Aug 2, 2021 6:56 pm

3 hours before free agency starts. Wonder who Weham will be stalking at 6?

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Post#98 » by Knightro » Mon Aug 2, 2021 7:02 pm

I would not take WCJ that source too seriously for what it's worth.
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Post#99 » by YosemiteSam » Mon Aug 2, 2021 7:04 pm

basketballRob wrote:3 hours before free agency starts. Wonder who Weham will be stalking at 6?

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Post#100 » by Knightro » Mon Aug 2, 2021 7:08 pm

Knightro wrote:I would not take WCJ that source too seriously for what it's worth.


And if it is true, then you can go ahead and pack Mo Bamba's bags.

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