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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#81 » by Rainwater » Fri Apr 14, 2023 12:28 am

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Bensational wrote:I’m quite surprised that Travis Schoenberg wasn’t able to do a better job trying to recreate the Warriors around Trae. He never found Trae his Klay or Draymond.

The Pacers, meanwhile, have added shooting by the bucketload. So have the Kings.

One thing I’ve noticed is that ring chasing veterans aren’t racing to join either of Trae or Luka just yet despite both having recent conference finals appearances. I think both will be powerful forces in the league in the future, but maybe they’re not recognised as being ready to win with a team yet?


Atlanta FO has done a terrible job of putting a roster around Trae that’s for sure


I think Alanta has done their best to put a team around Trae. They have gone through 3 or 4 coaches and multiple players at some point you have to blame the constant.
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#82 » by Hogified05 » Sun Apr 16, 2023 4:40 am

No thank you. I stood firm on this even when they had their lucky ECF run a couple years ago. I didn't want him in the draft I don't want him now. He is a fine player but he is fools gold to me, off brand Steph. I like watching Steph play plus he wins. Steph doesn't hunt fouls like Trae, Steph can score 50 on 1 free throw, no way Trae ever does. Plus I can't listen to him talk. He sounds as smart as a rock in interviews. Let me keep Fultz. Trae may make us more marketable instantly but I'd rather go out on my sword with Markelle. I actually enjoy his game and him as a person.
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#83 » by Skybox » Sun Apr 16, 2023 12:17 pm

Hogified05 wrote:No thank you. I stood firm on this even when they had their lucky ECF run a couple years ago. I didn't want him in the draft I don't want him now. He is a fine player but he is fools gold to me, off brand Steph. I like watching Steph play plus he wins. Steph doesn't hunt fouls like Trae, Steph can score 50 on 1 free throw, no way Trae ever does. Plus I can't listen to him talk. He sounds as smart as a rock in interviews. Let me keep Fultz. Trae may make us more marketable instantly but I'd rather go out on my sword with Markelle. I actually enjoy his game and him as a person.


You mean go out in the first round? :lol: :lol:

Sorry, can’t help myself. Trae IS definitely scary/exciting. Not quite Kyrie level but…I’d have to explore it if it was largely for picks and it didnt gut our core.
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#84 » by axl_c_cool » Sun Apr 16, 2023 1:12 pm

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Hogified05 wrote:No thank you. I stood firm on this even when they had their lucky ECF run a couple years ago. I didn't want him in the draft I don't want him now. He is a fine player but he is fools gold to me, off brand Steph. I like watching Steph play plus he wins. Steph doesn't hunt fouls like Trae, Steph can score 50 on 1 free throw, no way Trae ever does. Plus I can't listen to him talk. He sounds as smart as a rock in interviews. Let me keep Fultz. Trae may make us more marketable instantly but I'd rather go out on my sword with Markelle. I actually enjoy his game and him as a person.


You mean go out in the first round?

Sorry, can’t help myself. Trae IS definitely scary/exciting. Not quite Kyrie level but…I’d have to explore it if it was largely for picks and it didnt gut our core.
Agreed, if its this years picks, Fultz, and Isaac I wouldn't think twice. Paulo, Franz, and Jalen are the only players off the table

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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#85 » by tiderulz » Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:05 pm

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Hogified05 wrote:No thank you. I stood firm on this even when they had their lucky ECF run a couple years ago. I didn't want him in the draft I don't want him now. He is a fine player but he is fools gold to me, off brand Steph. I like watching Steph play plus he wins. Steph doesn't hunt fouls like Trae, Steph can score 50 on 1 free throw, no way Trae ever does. Plus I can't listen to him talk. He sounds as smart as a rock in interviews. Let me keep Fultz. Trae may make us more marketable instantly but I'd rather go out on my sword with Markelle. I actually enjoy his game and him as a person.


You mean go out in the first round?

Sorry, can’t help myself. Trae IS definitely scary/exciting. Not quite Kyrie level but…I’d have to explore it if it was largely for picks and it didnt gut our core.
Agreed, if its this years picks, Fultz, and Isaac I wouldn't think twice. Paulo, Franz, and Jalen are the only players off the table

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and Trae with another Trae type of game. 5-18, 1-5 from 3. after going 1-8 from 3 vs Miami. and 2-15 from 3 in 3 games in April. The guy is not a good distance shooter but believes he is and will just keep firing. he doesnt play defense. i just cant get behind bringing him in. i dont think Trae as the "best" player and especially on a $40mil+/yr deal, that you will have a winning team.
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#86 » by Howard Mass » Sun Apr 16, 2023 2:14 pm

I wanted Trae Young in The Draft in 2018.

However, I like where The Magic are headed and would not give up a big package to acquire a star.

Not sure Trae Young would be the best fit with what this team is building anyway.
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#87 » by meatwad4343 » Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:21 am

Trae isn't a player you can win with, he's too small and soft for the physical style of ball played in the playoffs, is a black hole on offense that will stunt Paulos growth and plays zero defense
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#88 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:21 pm

For a package that doesn't completely gut our core I would consider it. With the way teams hand out picks for players I am not sure that's a price i'm willing to pay for a team that is potentially already playoff caliber.

Assuming we are a .500 team Does Trae Young make us a 50 win team? But then after that, do we have the defense to survive in the playoffs or are we just admitting that we are just going to outscore the other team?

As to whether or not that hurts our "F" duo. I doubt it. If anything Franz will score more efficiently as the 3rd option vs the 2nd and Paolo becomes a different player entirely as the 2nd option.
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Post#89 » by Hogified05 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:39 am

JoshuaPotter wrote:For a package that doesn't completely gut our core I would consider it. With the way teams hand out picks for players I am not sure that's a price i'm willing to pay for a team that is potentially already playoff caliber.

Assuming we are a .500 team Does Trae Young make us a 50 win team? But then after that, do we have the defense to survive in the playoffs or are we just admitting that we are just going to outscore the other team?

As to whether or not that hurts our "F" duo. I doubt it. If anything Franz will score more efficiently as the 3rd option vs the 2nd and Paolo becomes a different player entirely as the 2nd option.


You just don't want your PG being your first scoring option. I use to be a big Rose mark in Chicago. But my buddy hated scoring first PGs. I've come around. Since the 80s, 40 years worth of sample size, only two teams really won a championship were the PG was the go to scorer first option. Isiash Thomas Pistons and Steph Curry Warriors. And you can argue Steph only won 2 as the main main guy. So 4 championships in like 40 years have been won with PG as the first option. And Trae is off brand Curry. I think Fultz is the perfect PG to contend with how we are constructed. He can get you 20 but wants to run the offense first. You can tell dudes love playing with Fultz and you can tell dudes are off put playing with Trae.

Listen whether we end up contending or not with this iteration soley depends on how good prime Franz and Paolo get.
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#90 » by jonbob17 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 12:52 pm

If we are trying to win a title, I think I might rather have Murray. If we are cool with the 5th seed, sure trade for Trae, he's a top 5 watch in the league. I'll take that.
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Post#91 » by eyriq » Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:40 pm

Sign and trade Fultz and Cole + this year's lottery picks and a future first. Would that framework even work?
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Post#92 » by cedric76 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:15 pm

eyriq wrote:Sign and trade Fultz and Cole + this year's lottery picks and a future first. Would that framework even work?


Far too much, no Thx, Trae IS too overrated
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#93 » by thelead » Wed Apr 19, 2023 5:56 pm

eyriq wrote:Sign and trade Fultz and Cole + this year's lottery picks and a future first. Would that framework even work?

Pass. He's the type of player I wouldn't mind singing as a FA but I wouldn't be giving up a ton of assets for him. Hold onto your assets until a talent like Luka is available :D
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Post#94 » by davey_wavy » Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:29 pm

eyriq wrote:Sign and trade Fultz and Cole + this year's lottery picks and a future first. Would that framework even work?


Your devastating P5 lol. Cole is his buddy man and Fultz is his biggest fan. I guess you gotta give him a taste of NBA reality sooner or later
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#95 » by IllMagic04 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:31 pm

We absolutely should reach out and find out the price. My guess is either they are just straight up not trading him or the price will be too high. Id love to add Trae to our core but not break up the core to get him. Franz and Paolo are absolutely untouchable. If they will only start the discussions around one of those two then there's nothing to talk about. WCjr and Cole I'd prefer not to, but you could twist my arm. I'd trade anyone else to get him.

Being that we would have cap space in the offseason do we still have to send matching salary?
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#96 » by tiderulz » Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:00 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:We absolutely should reach out and find out the price. My guess is either they are just straight up not trading him or the price will be too high. Id love to add Trae to our core but not break up the core to get him. Franz and Paolo are absolutely untouchable. If they will only start the discussions around one of those two then there's nothing to talk about. WCjr and Cole I'd prefer not to, but you could twist my arm. I'd trade anyone else to get him.

Being that we would have cap space in the offseason do we still have to send matching salary?

what about him do you love? his bad shooting? turnovers? Ole defense? giant contract?
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#97 » by IllMagic04 » Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:15 pm

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IllMagic04 wrote:We absolutely should reach out and find out the price. My guess is either they are just straight up not trading him or the price will be too high. Id love to add Trae to our core but not break up the core to get him. Franz and Paolo are absolutely untouchable. If they will only start the discussions around one of those two then there's nothing to talk about. WCjr and Cole I'd prefer not to, but you could twist my arm. I'd trade anyone else to get him.

Being that we would have cap space in the offseason do we still have to send matching salary?

what about him do you love? his bad shooting? turnovers? Ole defense? giant contract?


I like 26/10. I like that he's shown the ability to lead a team deep in the playoffs. I like that hes only 24 years old.
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#98 » by tiderulz » Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:33 pm

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IllMagic04 wrote:We absolutely should reach out and find out the price. My guess is either they are just straight up not trading him or the price will be too high. Id love to add Trae to our core but not break up the core to get him. Franz and Paolo are absolutely untouchable. If they will only start the discussions around one of those two then there's nothing to talk about. WCjr and Cole I'd prefer not to, but you could twist my arm. I'd trade anyone else to get him.

Being that we would have cap space in the offseason do we still have to send matching salary?

what about him do you love? his bad shooting? turnovers? Ole defense? giant contract?


I like 26/10. I like that he's shown the ability to lead a team deep in the playoffs. I like that hes only 24 years old.

that 1 deep run looking very fluky right now, after being bounced out in 1st round last year and likely the same this year.
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#99 » by RichCollab » Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:41 pm

I’m not the biggest fan of Trae but from a fit perspective on the offensive end he is perfect with Paolo and Franz. He would open up so much for both and would also get a bunch of good looks.
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Re: Hawks Open to Trading Trae Young 

Post#100 » by AdamTheGreek » Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:43 pm

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