The Jett Howard Thread

[SOUL]

he will be more likley our 6th or 7th option since team will still have : Banchero, Suggs, Fultz, Fanz, Black, Wendell, (Cole?).

I think we're looking for that tbh.

Maybe one more shooter in FA
Center who is physical/can rebounder

Trying to think other archetypes that are feasible/make sense for this stage of the team

[KillMonger]

not really a reach, i believe before the injury wasn't he mocked around 9-12?

[pepe1991]

I think two things will ultimately determine his future:

1. Being "passable" as a defender
2. Improve rebounding

His role otherwise is to snipe, move the ball which he's decent at (can stand to be less selfish at times), and that's it. That or he has to play with a great rebounder, but we don't have many of those.

Yep. Couldn't it ben easier to just...trade corpses of Isaac for Duncan Robinson instad of trying to develop one on your own given that heat invested nothing in his Jett Howard and here we are burning lottery pick hoping for same player?

[SOUL]

not really a reach, i believe before the injury wasn't he mocked around 9-12?

People soured on him after hurting both ankles the last 8-10 games, but yeah, he has hovered around 11-18 and then only the last month have people dropped him like to 26 after liking different prospects more.

[KillMonger]

not really a reach, i believe before the injury wasn't he mocked around 9-12?

People soured on him after hurting both ankles the last 8-10 games, but yeah, he has hovered around 11-18 and then only the last month have people dropped him like to 26 after liking different prospects more.

Yeah that's what i figured....He was a guy that i liked and we got him and i like what we have, we can use these guys especially howard....I guess i'm a lot more forgiving than most because my timeline is a bit further off than most people....Me i consider "competing" going far in the playoffs not just barely being a play-in team or a lower seed....so for me i think we're seasons away from competing so for me? We got time to see if these kids will develop into what we want.... some people want to speed up the process but i kind of like where we're at

[SOUL]

Yep. Couldn't it ben easier to just...trade corpses of Isaac for Duncan Robinson instad of trying to develop one on your own given that heat invested nothing in his Jett Howard and here we are burning lottery pick hoping for same player?

The issue is Duncan is almost $20 mil for 3 more years. $17 mil for partially guaranteed Isaac seems better, and a cost-controlled Jett IF he even becomes decent is better option at this point.

But I would also try to find diamond in the rough as luxury shooter in case, like people found in Reaves, Strus, Vincent, Seth Curry.. they have to be out there. Or hunting in FA for equivalent of solid-but-unspectacular veteran shooter.

I get the vision of the Jett pick, which intrigues me. There were some games where he's a flamethrower and if it hits then it's a luxury to have. I also thought Gradey would be a better option but we'll see. I know some very specific scouts have different issues with Gradey Dick when it comes to his frame and feeling underwhelmed with certain things so lot of these prospects besides Wemby will have to answer a lot of question marks.

[pepe1991]

Yep. Couldn't it ben easier to just...trade corpses of Isaac for Duncan Robinson instad of trying to develop one on your own given that heat invested nothing in his Jett Howard and here we are burning lottery pick hoping for same player?

The issue is Duncan is almost $20 mil for 3 more years. $17 mil for partially guaranteed Isaac seems better, and a cost-controlled Jett IF he even becomes decent is better option at this point.

But I would also try to find diamond in the rough as luxury shooter in case, like people found in Reaves, Strus, Vincent, Seth Curry.. they have to be out there. Or hunting in FA for equivalent of solid-but-unspectacular veteran shooter.

I get the vision of the Jett pick, which intrigues me. There were some games where he's a flamethrower and if it hits then it's a luxury to have. I also thought Gradey would be a better option but we'll see. I know some very specific scouts have different issues with Gradey Dick when it comes to his frame and feeling underwhelmed with certain things so lot of these prospects besides Wemby will have to answer a lot of question marks.

But you know what you are getting from Duncan. Shooting, spacing, cutting, and for 3 years you can rely on that. As time progresses his contract looks less bad due inflation of salary cap. ( works in his favor fact he shot near 50% for 3 on 11 ppg in ECF).

But look at names you picked:
Reaves- undrafted
Strus- undrafted
Vincent- undrafted
Seth Curry- undrafted



My personal issue with pick is how little he actually offers. You mentioned his one spectcaular game. Yes 7-13 for 3. In that game he also had 1 rebound, 0 assists, 0 blocks in 34 min. If you extract that game out of existence ( bit unfair, but still tells you a lot) he would have 40% FG and just 35% for 3 for season. So it's not like he is some constantlly elite shooter.

What he is constantlly is- very unathletic and poor rebounder, and poor defender. For whole season, i think he had 6 dunks total. Only 7 times he menaged to get 4+ rebounds.

And again, this isn't some ultra high ceiling, hardly 18 years old kid who will mature to his body, and has usual raw- problems, lack of weight, lack of ability to process game, lack of experience, started to playing BB at age of 15 etc.
This is son of former NBA player who spent his entire career with person to direct him, to the point his father was his college coach.

I just don't understand what makes him lottery pick. My best assumpsion is: nothing, overdrafted based on things Weltman values that have zero to do with basketball. ( typical grandparent mindthought- good parents= good kids).


late edit addition: it's not like i hate him as pick, i just don't think there was any need to take him that high. I think there was solid possibility that he would be there at 33#, exect spot where Spurs traded their own pick for future picks. And imo, he simply isn't all that good for this massive reach, where guy is constantlly mocked at verge of second round and you slap 11# pick on him. Like wtf? He isn't high ceiling player but also his floor isn't that high. Just 3 and D player with very mediocre to bad D.

[shadrock]

he will be more likley our 6th or 7th option since team will still have : Banchero, Suggs, Fultz, Fanz, Black, Wendell, (Cole?).

I think we're looking for that tbh.

Maybe one more shooter in FA
Center who is physical/can rebounder

Trying to think other archetypes that are feasible/make sense for this stage of the team

We need more scrappers. Guys willing to throw elbows and do the dirty work we dont want Paolo and Franz to do.

[Skin]

Should’ve traded back imo

I completely agree. We could have easily gained assets and still been able to draft him.

I like him, but the value is ummm.... I'm still in shock that Jett Howard was drafted ahead of Cam Whitmore.

[shadrock]

Lets not forget he can create and be the ball handler in the PnR as well. I could see him playing PG for short bursts. His passing is pretty good when hes got the ball in his hands.

[pepe1991]

Lets not forget he can create and be the ball handler in the PnR as well. I could see him playing PG for short bursts. His passing is pretty good when hes got the ball in his hands.

Our current " let's give him pick&roll chance" list:
Fultz
Suggs
Cole
Franz
Banchero
Black

yea.... not happening

[Skin]

Just one of his games:

Watch on YouTube

I remember after that game thinking that we would need to tank in order to land him with our first pick! A healthy Jett is lethal.

[j-ragg]

He is at least making me like the AB pick a lot more.

[Skin]

he will be more likley our 6th or 7th option since team will still have : Banchero, Suggs, Fultz, Fanz, Black, Wendell, (Cole?).

I think we're looking for that tbh.

Maybe one more shooter in FA
Center who is physical/can rebounder

Trying to think other archetypes that are feasible/make sense for this stage of the team

He's got to be 4th or 5th with the ceiling of 3rd... if we hit lightning in a bottle then maybe a 2nd option during his career. By theory he's our best 3pt shooter. We FINALLY have a guy that could consistently demand defending on the perimeter. In addition to that, I don't agree that he is as one dimensional as people think because I love his handle. He's very competent with his change of direction.

His playing style reminds me of Paul Pierce or Khris Middleton. I'm excited for Jett's future with this team.

[jezzerinho]

I going to watch his pre-college clips before saying anything. Based off the college games, where he allegedly was injured, I found him to be a Caleb Houstan clone. Think I compared the two somewhere on RGM.

Let's see what I'm supposedly missing first....

[eyriq]

Kid can shoot off the catch or off the dribble. We've got a floor spacer with some playmaking upside and decent size.

[Knightro]

Should’ve traded back imo

I completely agree. We could have easily gained assets and still been able to draft him.

I like him, but the value is ummm.... I'm still in shock that Jett Howard was drafted ahead of Cam Whitmore.

I ask again… trade back with who?

The Thunder traded up from 12 to 10.

The next team that traded up after that was Detroit from 31 to 25.

Another team has to want to trade up. You can’t just wave a magic wand (pun intended) and make that happen.

[eyriq]

https://www.youtube.com/live/7W2sgEF57Xs?feature=share&t=6225

[perempe20]

Did Juwan teach his son hook shots or he's not tall enough?

[Skin]

Should’ve traded back imo

I completely agree. We could have easily gained assets and still been able to draft him.

I like him, but the value is ummm.... I'm still in shock that Jett Howard was drafted ahead of Cam Whitmore.

I ask again… trade back with who?

The Thunder traded up from 12 to 10.

The next team that traded up after that was Detroit from 31 to 25.

Another team has to want to trade up. You can’t just wave a magic wand (pun intended) and make that happen.

Weltman admitted in his interview that they had options to move up and down.