Surfing the New CBA - Weltman Comment and Target

[Skybox]

It doesnt suck if you build the right way

It does suck if you draft too well and are forced to pay hundreds of millions in penalties, not to mention the player movement handcuffs you get for your troubles..."draft too well" is a phrase that should never be uttered, certainly hasn't been uttered in ORL lately.

TEam just have to be better with Assets management, the new CBA is great

K...that's right up there with "Weltman is great" on your resume

[zaymon]

It does suck if you draft too well and are forced to pay hundreds of millions in penalties, not to mention the player movement handcuffs you get for your troubles..."draft too well" is a phrase that should never be uttered, certainly hasn't been uttered in ORL lately.

TEam just have to be better with Assets management, the new CBA is great

K...that's right up there with "Weltman is great" on your resume

At least it provokes interesting decisions and promotes managers who are patient and restrained... sounds familiar

[cedric76]

It does suck if you draft too well and are forced to pay hundreds of millions in penalties, not to mention the player movement handcuffs you get for your troubles..."draft too well" is a phrase that should never be uttered, certainly hasn't been uttered in ORL lately.

TEam just have to be better with Assets management, the new CBA is great

K...that's right up there with "Weltman is great" on your resume

Yeah, no doubt you are better than Jeff, your countless AWESOME trade proposal clearly show your understanding of the CBA.
Shame we can't promote you as our new GM

[Skybox]

TEam just have to be better with Assets management, the new CBA is great

K...that's right up there with "Weltman is great" on your resume

Yeah, no doubt you are better than Jeff, your countless AWESOME trade proposal clearly show your understanding of the CBA.
Shame we can't promote you as our new GM

Thank you.

"Patient and restrained" is what I wish for in my politicians, not my entertainment - which is, at the end of the day, all the NBA is

...wait, were you being scarcastic?

[Jiwol]

K...that's right up there with "Weltman is great" on your resume

Yeah, no doubt you are better than Jeff, your countless AWESOME trade proposal clearly show your understanding of the CBA.
Shame we can't promote you as our new GM

Thank you.

"Patient and restrained" is what I wish for in my politicians, not my entertainment - which is, at the end of the day, all the NBA is

...wait, were you being scarcastic?

.

He is not capable of sarcasm.

[SloNick Russia]

We need a very specific type of player.
A guard with good handles and ability to generate offense for himself and others but not a ball dominant one, who can play well off the ball. Not too small and capable to play solid team defense. Im not fimiliar with Sexton but he seems to be somewhat like it.
Jerome is to be S&T by Cavs 100%, does he fit the role after a single good season? Have no idea. Reaves I like and I think Goga, KCP + pick is a solid offer for him and some bad contract from LAL.
Im not an NBA nerd, sure there must be bench guards around the NBA capable to step in for a bigger role. Like Boston found hidden gems in White and Pritchard, maybe Weltman has a suprise move in him.

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[cedric76]

We need a very specific type of player.
A guard with good handles and ability to generate offense for himself and others but not a ball dominant one, who can play well off the ball. Not too small and capable to play solid team defense. Im not fimiliar with Sexton but he seems to be somewhat like it.
Jerome is to be S&T by Cavs 100%, does he fit the role after a single good season? Have no idea. Reaves I like and I think Goga, KCP + pick is a solid offer for him and some bad contract from LAL.
Im not an NBA nerd, sure there must be bench guards around the NBA capable to step in for a bigger role. Like Boston found hidden gems in White and Pritchard, maybe Weltman has a suprise move in him.

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After this playoffs, I m surprise people are still mentioning Jerome

[Skybox]

We need a very specific type of player.
A guard with good handles and ability to generate offense for himself and others but not a ball dominant one, who can play well off the ball. Not too small and capable to play solid team defense. Im not fimiliar with Sexton but he seems to be somewhat like it.
Jerome is to be S&T by Cavs 100%, does he fit the role after a single good season? Have no idea. Reaves I like and I think Goga, KCP + pick is a solid offer for him and some bad contract from LAL.
Im not an NBA nerd, sure there must be bench guards around the NBA capable to step in for a bigger role. Like Boston found hidden gems in White and Pritchard, maybe Weltman has a suprise move in him.

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Any move from Weltman is a surprise

[GelbeWand09]

K...that's right up there with "Weltman is great" on your resume

Yeah, no doubt you are better than Jeff, your countless AWESOME trade proposal clearly show your understanding of the CBA.
Shame we can't promote you as our new GM

Thank you.

"Patient and restrained" is what I wish for in my politicians, not my entertainment - which is, at the end of the day, all the NBA is

...wait, were you being scarcastic?

Just ignore Mr. Oneliner. He is one of the worst posters on real gm. It's really a miracle that he hasn't been banned yet. 98% of his posting history consists of insults and insubstantial oneliners. If he had his way we'd still be winning 30 - 35 games a season for the next 5 years with Vuc, AG and Fournier and his posts would just alternate between "Weltman is great" or "Tanking is for losers or sucks" Hypocrite at his best as he now celebrates our tanking core and kisses Weltman's ass again for it.

[Jiwol]

Yeah, no doubt you are better than Jeff, your countless AWESOME trade proposal clearly show your understanding of the CBA.
Shame we can't promote you as our new GM

Thank you.

"Patient and restrained" is what I wish for in my politicians, not my entertainment - which is, at the end of the day, all the NBA is

...wait, were you being scarcastic?

Just ignore Mr. Oneliner. He is one of the worst posters on real gm. It's really a miracle that he hasn't been banned yet. 98% of his posting history consists of insults and insubstantial oneliners. If he had his way we'd still be winning 30 - 35 games a season for the next 5 years with Vuc, AG and Fournier and his posts would just alternate between "Weltman is great" or "Tanking is for losers or sucks" Hypocrite at his best as he now celebrates our tanking core and kisses Weltman's ass again for it.

Don't ever underestimate his AI/translator-created analyses he posts now and then to sound more serious.

That being said, I find it entertaining to have so many different points of view on the message board. Even when some of them aren't necessarily educated and based on emotions or crazy assumptions. As long as we're civil it's all good.

[Skybox]

I wish I was Mr Oneliner…I keep writing these essays like a psychopath

[pepe1991]

I wish I was Mr Oneliner…I keep writing these essays like a psychopath

Spoiler:

ur wrong

[VFX]

I wish I was Mr Oneliner…I keep writing these essays like a psychopath

Spoiler:

ur wrong

U r dumb

Tanking is for losers

Weltman r god

[JoshuaPotter]

I wish I was Mr Oneliner…I keep writing these essays like a psychopath

Spoiler:

ur wrong

U r dumb

Tanking is for losers

Weltman r god

KING OF THE NORTH STAR!

[OrlChamps2030]

I wish I was Mr Oneliner…I keep writing these essays like a psychopath

Spoiler:

ur wrong

U r dumb

Tanking is for losers

Weltman r god

Unleash Jett

[cedric76]

Seems like this thread went off topic

I was wondering what were all those posts from people on my foe list lol

[cedric76]

I crushed the numbers and i think many people will be disappointed

The way jeff mentioned the 1st apron, i dont think we ll go over it this summer so i think we ll:

Trade Cole + Jett + #25 for sexton

We have to dump Cole and Jett contract
Utah wont get more than a FRP for Sexton
Sexton is the only name we are targeting that will be willing to extend for less than 80 M /4 yrs ( i m expecting 75 M/ 4yrs)

Trade Goga for Royce Oneil
We need to bank on Goga and Oneil is a nice back up SF/PF locked on a cheap long term deal

Draft a C with #16 (raynaud)

Pick option on Cojo and houstan (we wont find cheaper)
Opt out on Gary and offer him the min vet (similar amount to Cojo as the are +10 yrs service)
Opt out on Moe and offer him a 1+1 contract at 6 M per (he will miss half of the season) , this gives him guaranteed money in case he never get to 100 % and allow us to offer him a long term contract next season if he is healthy


Franz Wagner SF $38,661,750
Jalen Suggs SG $35,000,000
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope $21,621,500
Paolo Banchero PF $15,334,769
Jonathan Isaac PF $15,000,000
Sexton PG $18,350,000
Moritz Wagner C $6,000,000
Wendell Carter Jr. $10,850,000
Oneil $10,125,000
Anthony Black $7,970,280
Gary Harris $3,468,960
Tristan Da Silva $3,809,520
Cory Joseph $3,468,960
Caleb Houstan $2,187,699
Rookie 16 (raynaud) $3,685,520


suggs, sexton, Cojo
KCP, AB, Harris
franz, Oneil, TDS
Paolo, JI, Caleb
WCJ, Raynaud, Moe


This takes us 40 M over the cap
412 000 dollars under the 1st apron
12.3 N dollars under the 2nd apron


Not as sexy as people might want but it s VERY hard to build a team with 2 max contract and stay under the 1st apron

However , building that way allow us to stay well under the 1st apron from 2027 onward

[Skybox]

I crushed the numbers and i think many people will be disappointed

The way jeff mentioned the 1st apron, i dont think we ll go over it this summer so i think we ll:

Trade Cole + Jett + #25 for sexton

We have to dump Cole and Jett contract
Utah wont get more than a FRP for Sexton
Sexton is the only name we are targeting that will be willing to extend for less than 80 M /4 yrs ( i m expecting 75 M/ 4yrs)

Trade Goga for Royce Oneil
We need to bank on Goga and Oneil is a nice back up SF/PF locked on a cheap long term deal

Draft a C with #16 (raynaud)

Pick option on Cojo and houstan (we wont find cheaper)
Opt out on Gary and offer him the min vet (similar amount to Cojo as the are +10 yrs service)
Opt out on Moe and offer him a 1+1 contract at 6 M per (he will miss half of the season) , this gives him guaranteed money in case he never get to 100 % and allow us to offer him a long term contract next season if he is healthy


Franz Wagner SF $38,661,750
Jalen Suggs SG $35,000,000
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope $21,621,500
Paolo Banchero PF $15,334,769
Jonathan Isaac PF $15,000,000
Sexton PG $18,350,000
Moritz Wagner C $6,000,000
Wendell Carter Jr. $10,850,000
Oneil $10,125,000
Anthony Black $7,970,280
Gary Harris $3,468,960
Tristan Da Silva $3,809,520
Cory Joseph $3,468,960
Caleb Houstan $2,187,699
Rookie 16 (raynaud) $3,685,520


suggs, sexton, Cojo
KCP, AB, Harris
franz, Oneil, TDS
Paolo, JI, Caleb
WCJ, Raynaud, Moe


This takes us 40 M over the cap
412 000 dollars under the 1st apron
12.3 N dollars under the 2nd apron


Not as sexy as people might want but it s VERY hard to build a team with 2 max contract and stay under the 1st apron

However , building that way allow us to stay well under the 1st apron from 2027 onward

Considering the crunch to come, I don't see how sending out two expiring salaries for a guy who's due a raise next year makes much sense...If this thread is supposedly focused on your understanding of the cap, I don't get how that fits.

I think it's nearly imperative to get off KCP in any significant backcourt upgrades - even if it means sweetening with draft equity. The reality is KCP's on-court superiority to Cole/Jett makes the attached draft equity nearly equal anyway...unless the other team just has no interest in salary. A shrewd wheeler-dealer like Ainge might demand draft equity for taking on KCP and then flip him to a contender for even more before the ink dries.

[OrlandoDream]

I crushed the numbers and i think many people will be disappointed

The way jeff mentioned the 1st apron, i dont think we ll go over it this summer so i think we ll:

Trade Cole + Jett + #25 for sexton

We have to dump Cole and Jett contract
Utah wont get more than a FRP for Sexton
Sexton is the only name we are targeting that will be willing to extend for less than 80 M /4 yrs ( i m expecting 75 M/ 4yrs)

Trade Goga for Royce Oneil
We need to bank on Goga and Oneil is a nice back up SF/PF locked on a cheap long term deal

Draft a C with #16 (raynaud)

Pick option on Cojo and houstan (we wont find cheaper)
Opt out on Gary and offer him the min vet (similar amount to Cojo as the are +10 yrs service)
Opt out on Moe and offer him a 1+1 contract at 6 M per (he will miss half of the season) , this gives him guaranteed money in case he never get to 100 % and allow us to offer him a long term contract next season if he is healthy


Franz Wagner SF $38,661,750
Jalen Suggs SG $35,000,000
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope $21,621,500
Paolo Banchero PF $15,334,769
Jonathan Isaac PF $15,000,000
Sexton PG $18,350,000
Moritz Wagner C $6,000,000
Wendell Carter Jr. $10,850,000
Oneil $10,125,000
Anthony Black $7,970,280
Gary Harris $3,468,960
Tristan Da Silva $3,809,520
Cory Joseph $3,468,960
Caleb Houstan $2,187,699
Rookie 16 (raynaud) $3,685,520


suggs, sexton, Cojo
KCP, AB, Harris
franz, Oneil, TDS
Paolo, JI, Caleb
WCJ, Raynaud, Moe


This takes us 40 M over the cap
412 000 dollars under the 1st apron
12.3 N dollars under the 2nd apron


Not as sexy as people might want but it s VERY hard to build a team with 2 max contract and stay under the 1st apron

However , building that way allow us to stay well under the 1st apron from 2027 onward

That KCP contract is really screwing up our plans. That signing was so bad. I also don't expect Gary to be back. Same goes with JI. If we resign Mo at a cheaper deal, which is likely, both Goga and JI are expendable, especially if we end up getting a C at 16th. Playing around with the contracts of Goga, JI, Cole, and Jett would allow us to go after a more expensive target like Simons or Coby White?

I like Sexton but I don't see us going far in the playoffs with him and Suggs backcourt. We are going to run into similar problems lack of scoring ability. Sexton would be the best PG on this team since prob Jameer but we need a more known scoring PG.

[cedric76]

I crushed the numbers and i think many people will be disappointed

The way jeff mentioned the 1st apron, i dont think we ll go over it this summer so i think we ll:

Trade Cole + Jett + #25 for sexton

We have to dump Cole and Jett contract
Utah wont get more than a FRP for Sexton
Sexton is the only name we are targeting that will be willing to extend for less than 80 M /4 yrs ( i m expecting 75 M/ 4yrs)

Trade Goga for Royce Oneil
We need to bank on Goga and Oneil is a nice back up SF/PF locked on a cheap long term deal

Draft a C with #16 (raynaud)

Pick option on Cojo and houstan (we wont find cheaper)
Opt out on Gary and offer him the min vet (similar amount to Cojo as the are +10 yrs service)
Opt out on Moe and offer him a 1+1 contract at 6 M per (he will miss half of the season) , this gives him guaranteed money in case he never get to 100 % and allow us to offer him a long term contract next season if he is healthy


Franz Wagner SF $38,661,750
Jalen Suggs SG $35,000,000
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope $21,621,500
Paolo Banchero PF $15,334,769
Jonathan Isaac PF $15,000,000
Sexton PG $18,350,000
Moritz Wagner C $6,000,000
Wendell Carter Jr. $10,850,000
Oneil $10,125,000
Anthony Black $7,970,280
Gary Harris $3,468,960
Tristan Da Silva $3,809,520
Cory Joseph $3,468,960
Caleb Houstan $2,187,699
Rookie 16 (raynaud) $3,685,520


suggs, sexton, Cojo
KCP, AB, Harris
franz, Oneil, TDS
Paolo, JI, Caleb
WCJ, Raynaud, Moe


This takes us 40 M over the cap
412 000 dollars under the 1st apron
12.3 N dollars under the 2nd apron


Not as sexy as people might want but it s VERY hard to build a team with 2 max contract and stay under the 1st apron

However , building that way allow us to stay well under the 1st apron from 2027 onward

That KCP contract is really screwing up our plans. That signing was so bad. I also don't expect Gary to be back. Same goes with JI. If we resign Mo at a cheaper deal, which is likely, both Goga and JI are expendable, especially if we end up getting a C at 16th. Playing around with the contracts of Goga, JI, Cole, and Jett would allow us to go after a more expensive target like Simons or Coby White?

I like Sexton but I don't see us going far in the playoffs with him and Suggs backcourt. We are going to run into similar problems lack of scoring ability. Sexton would be the best PG on this team since prob Jameer but we need a more known scoring PG.

KCP s contract is not bad for a Starting 3&D guy that fit perfectly next to Franz and P5
JI s contract is very good too, Cheap and partially guaranteed, it s gonna be very valuable next summer when we ll need it
Jett did a very good job with all those contracts
As for harris , i m not a fan of having him back but we could do worst that gary at a vet min for a 3rd SG
Goga will be moved either this summer or at the trade deadline, with MOE off till December, we could keep Goga till Moe comes back and trade him at deadline (for someone like Oneil or a better fit)