Happyfoosball wrote:Dude your like John Kerry. You argue your way out of everything and constantly change little things in your posts to create new ways to prove how wrong I am.
Dear God...
First you say Dwight doesn't deserve to be compared to KG and Duncan then you say they are rounding out and are on the down side of their career, then you say OF course you were talking about Hakeem in his prime when compairing to Dwight, and my response to that is why?
I never said KG/Duncan are "rounding out" their career. I said they're moving toward the end of the spectrum
of their primes. That doesn't mean they're out of their primes yet, and it certainly doesn't mean they're
careers are winding down.
I wasn't comparing Dwight to Hakeem. I was comparing Shaq to Hakeem; which was an appropriate bridge for Dwight to Duncan, that could very well be our modern day Shaq/Hakeem. I merely cited Shaq/Hakeem as..get this, precedence.
Dwights 22 and far from his prime, why should he be compaired to Hakeem in his prime? That makes no friggen sense. And if Duncan and KG are rounding out then why can't Dwight be compaired to them? Are they THAT much better then Dwight right now or aren't they?
Repeat: Duncan and KG are not rounding out their careers. Also, they are some of the best PFs to ever play the game, just as the Dream is one of the bet Cs to ever play the game.
Try making a consistent stance and sticking with it rather then flip flopping your opinions in a way to make you seem smarter then you really are everytime you post.
Yes dubbya, I"m flip flopping. Go chug another beer.
For example when you say unstoppable, it means unstoppable. It doesn't mean something else because your argument would be weakened if it were.
Actually, unstoppable was being used in relative terms. Based on your criteria, nobody and nothing is unstoppable because unstoppable is an absolute term. However, I did not characterize my argument around the usage of "unstoppable" you're merely dissecting that word -- I also used the idea of "reliability" quite a bit. That is, Shaq/Hakeem or Duncan/KG are considerably more
reliable than Dwight, in addition they are both
more unstoppable than Dwight, though none of the above 5 are absolutely unstoppable obviously.
Why am I explaining semantics of language here? Did you make it out of HS, or did you drink your way through college and forget everything you learned in grade school?
+ Dwights gotten a lot better at passing out of the post, his turnovers are finally beneath 3. He's by no means perfercted it but he absolutely shouldn't be considered "limited" at that aspect of his game anymore.
Fair enough. Regardless, the question isn't if Dwight is "good." The question is whether he's better than the BEST (namely, KG/Duncan) not being as TO prone doesn't mean he's a better passer than them somehow. It means he's improved as any 22 year old is going to do, and he'll continue to do so, hopefully to the point he's a better passer than both of them.
Dwights become a decent free throw shooter down the stretch. When he's on, he's on and i've seen him close out many games this season hitting 80 percent of his free throws down the stretch. Then when he's off, he's off.
Go figure, when a player is making shots he's making them and when he's not, he's not. And I'm the one with poor speech mannerisms.
Dwight has games where he doesn't get a lot of points, but so do Duncan, and Garnett. Shaq in his prime did not, but then Shaq sucks now so it really isn't relevent to this discussion anyway.
Shaq does suck, and scoring every single game doesn't matter. It matters that you're
reliable enough to be considered. I question this at times with Dwight, which is fine since he's 22 and still developing. I don't question such a thing in general with KG/Duncan or the "old" (which was the young) Shaq.
In closing, I still believe Dwight this year is better then KG and Duncan. I believe KG has a better supporting cast with Allen and Peirce and I believe that Duncan has a better cast in SA. Duncans a better passer, and a better touch shooter but he lacks explosion, KG has explosion but his old and he gets hurt easily, he's also not someone who can be relied on to a tough shot. Because as awesome as his fade aways are, the dude isn't strong enough to do what say Dwight does down low.
KG's cast has nothing to do with anything, he was an even better statistical player in previous years before having the cast he now has. Duncan's cast is likely great because of him, not despite him. Like I mentioned, I wish he'd go elsewhere because I want to see if its him or Popovich that are the primary reasons for the success of SA.
Oh and I post here because i'm an Orlando Magic fan and if you don't like me, oh well I could really give a rats ass. You're a stuck up prick anyway.
Ok drunkie. It is hilarious to see your posting style change though. I remember the actual "happy" foosball, perhaps you ought to change your name to "bitter drunk" foosball.
BTW - You're the one lashing out at people in the thread HF, not me, the other people I was disagreeing with were giving great debates, I'm not sure why I even bothered responding to you.
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