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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#801 » by Cigamodnalro » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:04 pm

Jarrod Rudolph just blocked me on Twitter. It didn't take much. He just REALLY wants the Brooklyn trade is all.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#802 » by AdamTheGreek » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:04 pm

And there's Wojo officially backtracking. Good. Back to square one again. Take your time, Rob.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#803 » by TheXFactor » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:04 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
If Brooklyn and Orlando are to make a deal for Howard in near-term, it will likely be a trade between the two teams, sources tell Y! Sports.


This is good news for Magic fans :lol:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#804 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:05 pm

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BelgianMagic wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
If Brooklyn and Orlando are to make a deal for Howard in near-term, it will likely be a trade between the two teams, sources tell Y! Sports.


This is good news for Magic fans :lol:


Not if the trade actually goes down its not.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#805 » by ADRajX » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:05 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
If Brooklyn and Orlando are to make a deal for Howard in near-term, it will likely be a trade between the two teams, sources tell Y! Sports.

So we take Lopez and Humphries?

It just gets better and better...

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#806 » by Def Swami » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:05 pm

Back to Bynum...if Bynum doesn't want in for the long term, he can always be dealt at the trade deadline for probably a far better return than what D12 is getting us.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#807 » by tiderulz » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:05 pm

Orlando Tragic wrote:Got this from the TRUEBLUENATION board. Igues Bucher was just on the radio:

Per Ric Bucher:

- Bucher says Orlando and Brooklyn really really wants to get this deal to go down, but as each day goes by, it gets harder for them to complete the deal.

- Mike says "this trade is TRASH for Orlando, I don't want to disparage Brook Lopez or all these low first round picks, is this the best Orlando can do?"

- Bucher says "at least Orlando gets rid of Jason Richardson's contract. That's a good savings. It is real money to the owners."

- Mike asks is Orlando just being pushed around right now?

- Bucher says teams like the Bobcats, Cavs have more power now at this point because they know how Orlando wants to get this done asap.

- Bucher says "don't be surprise if you have to wait until October 12 before Dwight can be traded so that all the other players traded this summer can be re-traded again".

- Bucher says "a GM already says that Rob Hennigan is getting $0.25 over the $1 value on this trade, but that he wants to get this over with."

- Mike asks "any chance about the Lakers?"

- Bucher says "everything I heard about Lakers is that Andrew Bynum, and also Dwight Howard won't sign an extension this season."

- Mike asks "why won't Dwight want to come to LA?"

- Bucher says "when Dwight met with the Nets, they made him feel like the franchise. But the Lakers sort of made him feel like just a normal player."

- Bucher says "when Dwight goes to a team like the Lakers, as a big man, he looks at that situation and says 'I HAVE to win a championship' because if he doesn't, he will be the only Lakers big man that hasn't win a champ, and that pressure makes Dwight hesitant esp since Kobe only has 2-3 years left."

- Bucher also talks about Dwight being uncomfortable being compared to Shaquille O'Neal with the Superman monicker.

- Bucher says Lakers just needs an Andre Igoudala player more than anything else.


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Post#808 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:06 pm

Is the Oct 12 thing real? That makes sense only in 3 months, but isn't it usually Dec 15th?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#809 » by tiderulz » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:07 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Is the Oct 12 thing real? That makes sense only in 3 months, but isn't it usually Dec 15th?


i think that was just last year, because of the lockout
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#810 » by MrOrlando » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:07 pm

If Charlotte wants to become the third team, do you think they could offer up a first round pick to send Orlando? That may be fairly valuable, as I don't see the Bobcats sniffing the playoffs anytime soon. It could easily be a Top 10, or even Top 5 pick. And if we're a low winning team, be in position to draft two players in the Top 5. Does this make it more worth while?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#811 » by Idunkonyou2 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:08 pm

So did Howard just admit he has been dealing with the Nets behind the Magic's back? When was he allowed to meet with the Nets?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#812 » by OrlandO » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:09 pm

Bucher is a fool. We could easily move JRich's contract, especially at the deadline when contenders may need a shooter. The immovable contracts are Turkoglu and Duhon.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#813 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:11 pm

Bucher is full of it, it's Dec 15th or 3 months after sign, whichever is later. Draft picks can be moved 30 days after signing.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#814 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:12 pm

Why does everyone act like jrichs contract is so horribly bad? :lol:
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#815 » by TheLastDon » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:12 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
If Brooklyn and Orlando are to make a deal for Howard in near-term, it will likely be a trade between the two teams, sources tell Y! Sports.



Hire Brian Shaw and take Dwight off trade block. :D
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#816 » by Potterman » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:13 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Why does everyone act like jrichs contract is so horribly bad? :lol:


Did we watch the same player last year?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#817 » by Last Guardian » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:13 pm

If we don't trade Howard we better not play him.
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Post#818 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:14 pm

It seriously annoys me that someone like Bucher can go on a national radio show and spew complete falseness. There's no way he actually said Oct. 12th. He's just adding 3 months to the July 11th lifting on the signing moratorium, which is wrong, it's 3 months or Dec 15th, whichever is LATER.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#819 » by T-Rob » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:15 pm

Dan Fegan is a crooked SOB, he reminds me of Drew Rosenhaus. I hope some of his clients realize he is trying to screw them over to appease his biggest and they drop his A$$!
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXV Off-Season Edition 

Post#820 » by arsenal6106 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:15 pm

Idunkonyou2 wrote:So did Howard just admit he has been dealing with the Nets behind the Magic's back? When was he allowed to meet with the Nets?


When we gave him permission to talk to the nets, lakers and mavericks at the beginning of the season.
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