Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XXXIX Off-Season Edition)

[Def Swami]

Leaking those DM's was not good for anyone involved. Dwight admitting himself that he can't run is going to kill any trade value he had. It was just plain stupid.

I did find the part where he said "they don't/never cared about me" the most ridiculous, though. He has been taken care of like a King in Orlando and by DeVos.

But again, leaking the DM's with info of this injury was a terrible idea and could hurt us.

[Bensational]

As mhec pointed out you are glossing over Tmacs troubles with Houston, and SHaq was a major pain in the a$$ for LA, Miami, and Phoenix after initial honeymoon's

And I fundamentally disagree with your assertion that Dwight didn't get any changes - they may have been ineffective changes but to say that Magic management wasn't responsive to him is being willfully ignorant - IMO

they're failed comparisons, because you're comparing someone who's struggling to accept the limitations of their abilities to someone who's still one of the best players in the league and in his prime. comparing their later issues to their issues with the Magic doesn't match up either, since when they left they were still healthy and performing strongly.

maybe you can show me the changes the Magic made outside of acquiring Glen Davis, then?

There weren't any changes that could be made by that point.

there's no excuse not to try. even if the situation is beyond repair, due diligence says that we shouldn't have had Turk/Duhon/JRich on the team. we should have been aggressively looking for pieces that would make the Magic better with or without Dwight.

[Def Swami]

http://www.clickorlando.com/sports/Dwig ... index.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -
Sources tell Local 6 Sports Director David Pingalore that Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard has asked his representation to keep his father out of trade talks.

It's believed Howard's father played a major role in Howard signing a contract extension with the Magic in March.

Howard has already asked the Magic to trade him, preferably to the Brooklyn Nets. Trade talks reportedly broke down last week.

On Friday, Local 6 reported that Howard would likely end up with the Los Angeles Lakers.

Sources told Pingalore it has been weeks since Howard and his father have spoken.

Meantime, GM Rob Hennigan and his staff are on their way to Las Vegas, where the NBA is holding summer league games.

It's unclear what the trip will involved.

Rockets??!!

[fbeye343]

we should have signed aaron books for half the contract jammer is getting. Aaron brooks at 3 mill is a bargain. Thats how you build a team and give yourself flexibility

[InFlames]

my time frame goes back to the point when Dwight started publicly saying he was going to make sure we made changes - after the round one knockout by the Hawks.

i don't think the VC trade/ matching JJ and Gortat were the result of any demand from Dwight, they were done so from the demand of common sense, considering we'd just come off a finals run and if Otis had let the team fall apart it would have been inexcusable.

the Arenas trade was probably a result of a demand from Dwight, but that doesn't mean you draw the line there. Otis shouldn't need Dwight going to him, telling him the team's not working and that we need to make changes and improvements. the fact that Otis held steadfast with his roster last season was enough indication that he thought he'd put together a winner. i don't understand how anybody could defend that, or pretend we did enough last season to try and suggest we made changes.

You cant possibly believe that we didn't try to make changes last season.

Our superstar had asked for them, and we knew that if there was ever a time to make them, it was then. Of course we tried, the reality is we couldn't get anything done, just didn't have the assets. It takes two teams to make a trade. If you honestly think the Magic purposefully didn't try to make any trades you just aren't thinking logically.

[InFlames]

there's no excuse not to try. even if the situation is beyond repair, due diligence says that we shouldn't have had Turk/Duhon/JRich on the team. we should have been aggressively looking for pieces that would make the Magic better with or without Dwight.

How do you know they didn't try? Of course they tried, cmon now.

[arkknight1988]

i am by no means on dwights side but i can't help but feel some sympathy towards him. he is trying to justify himself to random fans on twitter. does he not have anyone he can trust or talk to?

[arkknight1988]

http://www.clickorlando.com/sports/Dwight-Howard-asks-reps-to-keep-dad-out-of-trade-talks/-/1636890/15565642/-/utuk21/-/index.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -
Sources tell Local 6 Sports Director David Pingalore that Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard has asked his representation to keep his father out of trade talks.

It's believed Howard's father played a major role in Howard signing a contract extension with the Magic in March.

Howard has already asked the Magic to trade him, preferably to the Brooklyn Nets. Trade talks reportedly broke down last week.

On Friday, Local 6 reported that Howard would likely end up with the Los Angeles Lakers.

Sources told Pingalore it has been weeks since Howard and his father have spoken.

Meantime, GM Rob Hennigan and his staff are on their way to Las Vegas, where the NBA is holding summer league games.

It's unclear what the trip will involved.

Rockets??!!

dwight is truly lost.

[arkknight1988]

lamb is a very very nice player. lamb>>>>>>>>>>>marshon brooks

[the-diesel]

lamb is a very very nice player. lamb>>>>>>>>>>>marshon brooks

That's somewhat of a blind statement... Both are talented.

[Def Swami]

lamb is a very very nice player. lamb>>>>>>>>>>>marshon brooks

+1000

[arkknight1988]

lamb to white to terrence jones. all 3 rookies are impressive

[tiderulz]

As mhec pointed out you are glossing over Tmacs troubles with Houston, and SHaq was a major pain in the a$$ for LA, Miami, and Phoenix after initial honeymoon's

And I fundamentally disagree with your assertion that Dwight didn't get any changes - they may have been ineffective changes but to say that Magic management wasn't responsive to him is being willfully ignorant - IMO

they're failed comparisons, because you're comparing someone who's struggling to accept the limitations of their abilities to someone who's still one of the best players in the league and in his prime. comparing their later issues to their issues with the Magic doesn't match up either, since when they left they were still healthy and performing strongly.

maybe you can show me the changes the Magic made outside of acquiring Glen Davis, then?

Depends on your timeframd I guess. I consider the Arenas trade, the Phoneix trade, getting VC, matching Redick, matching Gortat indicators of responsiveness to Dwight's demands

why do people think that Dwight asked for Arenas?? That was all Otis taking care of his "adopted" son.

[Nyce_1]

if had to pick between White & Jones, give me White.

[msmoore66]

lamb is a very very nice player. lamb>>>>>>>>>>>marshon brooks

+1000

I like Lamb's arms, they are very long.

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

Jeremy Lamb = A future. | MarShon Brooks = A wannabe.

You decide...

I'd choose - J-Lamb >x9999 MarShon Brooke

[rcklsscognition]

http://www.clickorlando.com/sports/Dwight-Howard-asks-reps-to-keep-dad-out-of-trade-talks/-/1636890/15565642/-/utuk21/-/index.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -
Sources tell Local 6 Sports Director David Pingalore that Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard has asked his representation to keep his father out of trade talks.

It's believed Howard's father played a major role in Howard signing a contract extension with the Magic in March.

Howard has already asked the Magic to trade him, preferably to the Brooklyn Nets. Trade talks reportedly broke down last week.

On Friday, Local 6 reported that Howard would likely end up with the Los Angeles Lakers.

Sources told Pingalore it has been weeks since Howard and his father have spoken.

Meantime, GM Rob Hennigan and his staff are on their way to Las Vegas, where the NBA is holding summer league games.

It's unclear what the trip will involved.

Rockets??!!

Rockets and J Vaughn are in Vegas.

[OrlandoMajinBuu]

+1

if had to pick between White & Jones, give me White.

[OrlandO]

I hope Hennigan sits in on some rockets games... would make for some good tv.

[DiplomaticMagic]

Those DM's are not doing us any favors

Anyway, **** Dwight!