The Trade Thread II

[tiderulz]

Ibaka is like a iPhone 6 plus on ebay with 0 bids but 7 watchers. No activity until the last 10 min then the bids start going nuts.

I expect offers to start getting much better on the days before the deadline

Toronto is out of the Ibaka sweepstakes. Possibly more teams as well. Hennigan set the starting bidding price too high.
https://www.thestar.com/content/thestar/sports/raptors/2017/02/10/raptors-nearing-franchise-turning-point-arthur.html

Reported today by Marc Stein: http://www.espn.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/4961/magics-serge-ibaka-appears-in-play-as-trade-deadline-approaches

Sources say that Toronto and Miami are among the Eastern Conference teams that have expressed interest in Ibaka this month. More than one rival club has expressed the belief that Orlando will use the next 10 days before the deadline to keep fielding offers and then, ultimately, choose the best available package for Ibaka on Feb. 23 and make the move.

Can the Magic get a first-round pick back for Ibaka from a team seeking a playoff-tested vet to add to its frontcourt rotation? Or a quality player under 25 a la Oladipo?

Like we said: Stay tuned.

not sure i would wait the whole 10 days. teams might not want to gamble and take a different offer instead of getting left empty handed. If Hennigan gets a real good offer, should jump on it

[tiderulz]

1st rounder + patrick patterson + jared Sullinger expiring and cory joseph for Bismack and Ibaka. Is that a better deal?

again, we have no interest or need in Joseph.

[jjohns828]

1st rounder + patrick patterson + jared Sullinger expiring and cory joseph for Bismack and Ibaka. Is that a better deal?

I just don't think the Magic would want Cory Joseph at all. I mean we already have 3 PGs under contract for next season, though I know Watson is only partially guaranteed. Then you factor in the number of PGs among the top draft prospects and our likely draft position and I just think we'd consider taking his contract a negative regardless of how you might value him as a player.

[PrimeThyme]

1st rounder + patrick patterson + jared Sullinger expiring and cory joseph for Bismack and Ibaka. Is that a better deal?

Why would we want Joseph? We already have a backup pg in Augustine who is arguably the better player. Their numbers are about identical this year but Augustines career numbers are better.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&hint=D.J.+Augustin&player_id1_select=D.J.+Augustin&player_id1=augusdj01&hint=Cory+Joseph&player_id2_select=Cory+Joseph&player_id2=josepco01

[shadrock]

Ibaka is like a iPhone 6 plus on ebay with 0 bids but 7 watchers. No activity until the last 10 min then the bids start going nuts.

I expect offers to start getting much better on the days before the deadline

Toronto is out of the Ibaka sweepstakes. Possibly more teams as well. Hennigan set the starting bidding price too high.
https://www.thestar.com/content/thestar/sports/raptors/2017/02/10/raptors-nearing-franchise-turning-point-arthur.html

I think you guys need Ibaka more than we need a bad offer of Terrence Ross or something. So yeah we cool.

[magicfan4life88]

Read on Twitter

Don't know if he's credible but maybe Ibaka could still be in play here? We send them Ibaka, green, they send us ezeli Turner and a pick or 2, we take in cap to get picks?

Turner? hellllll no.

Would you please read what I said, I don't want Turner bit my thinking is to get what we want we need to take back some ugly contracts

[PrimeThyme]

Read on Twitter

Don't know if he's credible but maybe Ibaka could still be in play here? We send them Ibaka, green, they send us ezeli Turner and a pick or 2, we take in cap to get picks?

Turner? hellllll no.

Would you please read what I said, I don't want Turner bit my thinking is to get what we want we need to take back some ugly contracts

This is the mentality we have to get out of though. There are good deals to be found for picks with the veterans we have. We don't need to put ourselves in anymore of a hole by taking on bad contracts.

[BballIsLife11]

I am/have been a believer in the potential of Elf, but if for some reason Detroit would agree to this, I would definitely think about accepting.

Serge, Fournier and Elf
for
Reggie Jackson, KCP(Stanley if they counter) and 2017 first

[OrlandoDream]

I am/have been a believer in the potential of Elf, but if for some reason Detroit would agree to this, I would definitely think about accepting.

Serge, Fournier and Elf
for
Reggie Jackson, KCP(Stanley if they counter) and 2017 first

as I'm watching the Pistons vs Raps, I can tell you I don't want Reggie Jackson anywhere near this team. He has been awful since coming back from the injury. It's crazy how much better the team looks with Ish Smith. It's no wonder Stan would love Elf.

[MoMM]

MagicalNBA ‏@MagicalNBA
Patterson/Sullinger/Powell for Serge/Mario is a trade the Magic would do (mainly for Powell). Will TOR?

A signal we don't know how to draft, because after two seasons we trade our #5 pick in 2015 + Ibaka for two fillers and #46 pick in 2015

And I'm not even looking back and considering if we make this trade we would have traded #2, #5, #11 + Ilyasova for #46 pick.

[locomagicfan]

MagicalNBA ‏@MagicalNBA
Patterson/Sullinger/Powell for Serge/Mario is a trade the Magic would do (mainly for Powell). Will TOR?

A signal we don't know how to draft, because after two seasons we trade our #5 pick in 2015 + Ibaka for two fillers and #46 pick in 2015

And I'm not even looking back and considering if we make this trade we would have traded #2, #5, #11 + Ilyasova for #46 pick.

How credible is @MagicalNBA? Because that trade sounds so awful, anyone who so much as quotes him henceforth should be banned for promoting hate crimes.

[Nyce_1]

Ibaka is like a iPhone 6 plus on ebay with 0 bids but 7 watchers. No activity until the last 10 min then the bids start going nuts.

I expect offers to start getting much better on the days before the deadline

Hahaha good analogy.

[PrimeThyme]

I am/have been a believer in the potential of Elf, but if for some reason Detroit would agree to this, I would definitely think about accepting.

Serge, Fournier and Elf
for
Reggie Jackson, KCP(Stanley if they counter) and 2017 first

as I'm watching the Pistons vs Raps, I can tell you I don't want Reggie Jackson anywhere near this team. He has been awful since coming back from the injury. It's crazy how much better the team looks with Ish Smith. It's no wonder Stan would love Elf.

Im doing the exact same thing right now. Ish smith brings way more offense and energy to this team. Reggie jackson hasn't been close to the player he was last year and is only averaging 9ppg in the month of February. Id take Elf and his contract all day over Jacksons.

[Incognito76]

We should do trade with Portland. We should do total rebuild as with current core we can win 35-38 games MAX.
I would love to get Portland 17 (#11), Memphis 17 (#21), Vonleh and Crabbe for Ibaka and DJ.

[NEM]

MagicalNBA ‏@MagicalNBA
Patterson/Sullinger/Powell for Serge/Mario is a trade the Magic would do (mainly for Powell). Will TOR?

A signal we don't know how to draft, because after two seasons we trade our #5 pick in 2015 + Ibaka for two fillers and #46 pick in 2015

And I'm not even looking back and considering if we make this trade we would have traded #2, #5, #11 + Ilyasova for #46 pick.

But are you seriously surprised that Hennigan would do this? He's made one good trade in his career and then he undid that by trading away the best player from that trade for scrap metal last year. He's not good at signing free agents. He's not good at drafting. He's not good at getting back value in trades. People can sit here and say Martins this, and devos that, but at the end of the day it is Hennigans job to put a competitive roster together and in year 5 he has yet to do that. This trade is exactly in line with what I expect him to do, further screwing this organization. 5 years and a failed rebuild later, and this fan base and organization is ready to give him another crack at it? We are dumber than him if that's the case..

[NEM]

We should do trade with Portland. We should do total rebuild as with current core we can win 35-38 games MAX.
I would love to get Portland 17 (#11), Memphis 17 (#21), Vonleh and Crabbe for Ibaka and DJ.

If we are doing a full scale rebuild, taking in crabbe's contract is horrible

[tiderulz]

Read on Twitter

Don't know if he's credible but maybe Ibaka could still be in play here? We send them Ibaka, green, they send us ezeli Turner and a pick or 2, we take in cap to get picks?

Turner? hellllll no.

Would you please read what I said, I don't want Turner bit my thinking is to get what we want we need to take back some ugly contracts

i read it. Turner's bad contract for "a pick or 2". they would have to be top-10 picks to take his contract

[NEM]

MagicalNBA ‏@MagicalNBA
Patterson/Sullinger/Powell for Serge/Mario is a trade the Magic would do (mainly for Powell). Will TOR?

A signal we don't know how to draft, because after two seasons we trade our #5 pick in 2015 + Ibaka for two fillers and #46 pick in 2015

And I'm not even looking back and considering if we make this trade we would have traded #2, #5, #11 + Ilyasova for #46 pick.

How credible is @MagicalNBA? Because that trade sounds so awful, anyone who so much as quotes him henceforth should be banned for promoting hate crimes.

Magical has been considered to be inaccurate in years past, however it's fun reading rumors so he's stuck around. However, this type of trade is what I'd be expecting so there's that.

[tiderulz]

MagicalNBA ‏@MagicalNBA
Patterson/Sullinger/Powell for Serge/Mario is a trade the Magic would do (mainly for Powell). Will TOR?

A signal we don't know how to draft, because after two seasons we trade our #5 pick in 2015 + Ibaka for two fillers and #46 pick in 2015

And I'm not even looking back and considering if we make this trade we would have traded #2, #5, #11 + Ilyasova for #46 pick.

But are you seriously surprised that Hennigan would do this? He's made one good trade in his career and then he undid that by trading away the best player from that trade for scrap metal last year. He's not good at signing free agents. He's not good at drafting. He's not good at getting back value in trades. People can sit here and say Martins this, and devos that, but at the end of the day it is Hennigans job to put a competitive roster together and in year 5 he has yet to do that. This trade is exactly in line with what I expect him to do, further screwing this organization. 5 years and a failed rebuild later, and this fan base and organization is ready to give him another crack at it? We are dumber than him if that's the case..

i wouldnt say he isnt good at getting value, he just doesnt do it all the time.

JJ for Harris

AA for Fournier + pick

are 2 good examples.

but i would hope that Toronto trade would include at least 1 first rounder

[Incognito76]

We should do trade with Portland. We should do total rebuild as with current core we can win 35-38 games MAX.
I would love to get Portland 17 (#11), Memphis 17 (#21), Vonleh and Crabbe for Ibaka and DJ.

If we are doing a full scale rebuild, taking in crabbe's contract is horrible

Then write better realistic trade. Also his sallary won't be problem as in that situation we would have alot of players on rookie contract.