Markelle Fultz Updates Thread

[pepe1991]

So your answer to my question is yes. You still think he is not a good player.

I think of him same i think about any other non shooting guard.
Not gonna cut it.

There is good reason why Westbrook, probably one of top 10 best athletes in history, one of two players in history who averaged triple double for a season and only nba player who averaged triple double for TWO seasons never won anything.
That reason is 30,4% three point shooting.

ofc other reason is decision making under pressure, but if he could make open shots he would be top 5- 10 player in history. But he can't. And that's why he can't even be top 5 player today.

Understand

But you are judging Markelle on a standard of players that can lead you to a championship and at this point you are absolutely right

But neither would Vuc nor Evan and you seem to be less critical of them.

I think there is a world where we can like both crops of players (the skilled vets evan, vuc and the not so skilled athletes fultz, isaac)

Teams can run offense with making C and SG pretty much nothing but : screen setter for C and spot up shooter for SG.
It's impossible to limit usage of starting point guard, therfore it's hardest position to "hide" his shortcommings.

if you wanna find non shooting PG on championship roster you have to go back to 2008, 12 years ago to Rondo and Celtics.
Even Parker shot 37% for 3 in playoffs of 2013-14 but they had DIaw ( 40% for 3) , Mills (40% for 3) and Ginobili (39% for 3 ) as secundary playmakers when things didn't go well with Parker.

I think Clippers can find themselfs in bad position if they end up having Pat Bev and Lou Williams as only "playmakers" and playoffs are rolling as i don't trust any of them late in a game. Fortunate for them Lakers have same issue. Pretty much Lebron is only player who can ballhandle.
That's why i'm confident that Houston will be scary matchup for both teams. Harden, Westbrook, Gordon can be hard to contain , especially if they enage into their pace and transition.

[MagicFan101]

I still fully believe the day will come where we look at that Lakers game last night and simply call it a Wednesday ... not rush to award Fultz the sweater vest.

The day will come when that is routine for him. I cannot wait.

[basketballRob]

I wonder if Pepe still thinks he is not good lol

dude.
One game.
Chill.

If i wanted to rub in face how bad he is i would re-active thread when he combined for 2-17 against Hawks and Bucks.

You don't evaluate players based on one or even few games.

Every player has ups and downs and it's pointless to react to single games.

Markelle Fulz in numbers is 27 mpg starer who averages 11,7 ppg, 4,6 apg, on 46% FG, 26,5% for 3 and 74% FTs

in advanced stats that's 48% eFG and 51% TS.

On ESPN's RPM list he is ranked 30# among PGs.

You draw conclusions from it. I won't do it for you.

He had good game, good for him. Good for team. Up next, Clippers.

You draw conclusions on those stats but not when they say Evan and Vuc are below average defenders. Lol

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[pepe1991]

I wonder if Pepe still thinks he is not good lol

dude.
One game.
Chill.

If i wanted to rub in face how bad he is i would re-active thread when he combined for 2-17 against Hawks and Bucks.

You don't evaluate players based on one or even few games.

Every player has ups and downs and it's pointless to react to single games.

Markelle Fulz in numbers is 27 mpg starer who averages 11,7 ppg, 4,6 apg, on 46% FG, 26,5% for 3 and 74% FTs

in advanced stats that's 48% eFG and 51% TS.

On ESPN's RPM list he is ranked 30# among PGs.

You draw conclusions from it. I won't do it for you.

He had good game, good for him. Good for team. Up next, Clippers.

You draw conclusions on those stats but not when they say Evan and Vuc are below average defenders. Lol

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At this point only complete moron would argue that Vučević is not good defender.
Nobody ever described Evan as great defender, but since Magic play elite defense WITH him it's clear that his defense isn't huge issue.

But hey, stay ignorant , that's only thing you do

[basketballRob]

dude.
One game.
Chill.

If i wanted to rub in face how bad he is i would re-active thread when he combined for 2-17 against Hawks and Bucks.

You don't evaluate players based on one or even few games.

Every player has ups and downs and it's pointless to react to single games.

Markelle Fulz in numbers is 27 mpg starer who averages 11,7 ppg, 4,6 apg, on 46% FG, 26,5% for 3 and 74% FTs

in advanced stats that's 48% eFG and 51% TS.

On ESPN's RPM list he is ranked 30# among PGs.

You draw conclusions from it. I won't do it for you.

He had good game, good for him. Good for team. Up next, Clippers.

You draw conclusions on those stats but not when they say Evan and Vuc are below average defenders. Lol

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At this point only complete moron would argue that Vučević is not good defender.
Nobody ever described Evan as great defender, but since Magic play elite defense WITH him it's clear that his defense isn't huge issue.

But hey, stay ignorant , that's only thing you do

I laugh nearly every game watching them try to play defense. It's so bad that it's hilarious. We play good defense despite them. Mo at 21 is statistically a far superior defender than Vuc.

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[The Real Dalic]

It's fine that some people don't believe in Fultz still, but the people who said he was faking the injury and that he would be a scrub should own up to it. He's not a scrub and has been healthy all year, two things his biggest detractors have said wouldn't happen.

[pepe1991]

You draw conclusions on those stats but not when they say Evan and Vuc are below average defenders. Lol

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At this point only complete moron would argue that Vučević is not good defender.
Nobody ever described Evan as great defender, but since Magic play elite defense WITH him it's clear that his defense isn't huge issue.

But hey, stay ignorant , that's only thing you do

I laugh nearly every game watching them try to play defense. It's so bad that it's hilarious. We play good defense despite them. Mo statistically a far superior defender than Vuc.

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I laugh every time you post something related to basketball

[basketballRob]

At this point only complete moron would argue that Vučević is not good defender.
Nobody ever described Evan as great defender, but since Magic play elite defense WITH him it's clear that his defense isn't huge issue.

But hey, stay ignorant , that's only thing you do

I laugh nearly every game watching them try to play defense. It's so bad that it's hilarious. We play good defense despite them. Mo statistically a far superior defender than Vuc.

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I laugh every time you post something related to basketball

You have no stats to back you up so you resort to name calling.

I'll accept Fultz is a bad pg if you accept that Bamba is a far superior defender than Vuc.

Plus Fournier's offense doesn't make up for his horrible defense.


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[Blue_and_Whte]

I laugh nearly every game watching them try to play defense. It's so bad that it's hilarious. We play good defense despite them. Mo statistically a far superior defender than Vuc.

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I laugh every time you post something related to basketball

You have no stats to back you up so you resort to name calling.

I'll accept Fultz is a bad pg if you accept that Bamba is a far superior defender than Vuc.



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Stats have LITERALLY been posted in front of your face. You just refuse to admit that you're wrong...maybe not..maybe you're just lacking in basic reading comprehension. Either way.. Bless your heart.

[Bergmaniac]

I wonder if Pepe still thinks he is not good lol

dude.
One game.
Chill.

If i wanted to rub in face how bad he is i would re-active thread when he combined for 2-17 against Hawks and Bucks.

You don't evaluate players based on one or even few games.

Every player has ups and downs and it's pointless to react to single games.

Markelle Fulz in numbers is 27 mpg starer who averages 11,7 ppg, 4,6 apg, on 46% FG, 26,5% for 3 and 74% FTs

in advanced stats that's 48% eFG and 51% TS.

On ESPN's RPM list he is ranked 30# among PGs.

You draw conclusions from it. I won't do it for you.

He had good game, good for him. Good for team. Up next, Clippers.

You draw conclusions on those stats but not when they say Evan and Vuc are below average defenders. Lol

Vucevic was 7th in DRPM among all centres in the league last season, This season he's 12th. According to RPM he's a really good defender.

[The Real Dalic]

Should I grab some popcorn for this thread? It seems to be heading in that direction.

[pepe1991]

dude.
One game.
Chill.

If i wanted to rub in face how bad he is i would re-active thread when he combined for 2-17 against Hawks and Bucks.

You don't evaluate players based on one or even few games.

Every player has ups and downs and it's pointless to react to single games.

Markelle Fulz in numbers is 27 mpg starer who averages 11,7 ppg, 4,6 apg, on 46% FG, 26,5% for 3 and 74% FTs

in advanced stats that's 48% eFG and 51% TS.

On ESPN's RPM list he is ranked 30# among PGs.

You draw conclusions from it. I won't do it for you.

He had good game, good for him. Good for team. Up next, Clippers.

You draw conclusions on those stats but not when they say Evan and Vuc are below average defenders. Lol

Vucevic was 7th in DRPM among all centres in the league last season, This season he's 12th. According to RPM he's a really good defender.

[basketballRob]

I laugh every time you post something related to basketball

You have no stats to back you up so you resort to name calling.

I'll accept Fultz is a bad pg if you accept that Bamba is a far superior defender than Vuc.



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Stats have LITERALLY been posted in front of your face. You just refuse to admit that you're wrong...maybe not..maybe you're just lacking in basic reading comprehension. Either way.. Bless your heart.

No they haven't. I've only seen stats that prove Bamba is a superior defender.

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[jezzerinho]

Vucevic is a great all round player, with skills wasted on a centre, both ends of the court and plays for his team.

But he's a sheep. Took himself out of his woolly comfort zone briefly twice to get paid twice and then settled back into being very good but allergic to leading a team or putting himself under any more pressure than needs be.

He is very talented and loyal but emphatically not delivering what we need most

[cedric76]

I laugh nearly every game watching them try to play defense. It's so bad that it's hilarious. We play good defense despite them. Mo statistically a far superior defender than Vuc.

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I laugh every time you post something related to basketball

You have no stats to back you up so you resort to name calling.

I'll accept Fultz is a bad pg if you accept that Bamba is a far superior defender than Vuc.

Plus Fournier's offense doesn't make up for his horrible defense.


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Lol at mo being a better defender than Vuc,hopefully he ll be soon but he is noway near vuc atm, i can't read your nonsense anymore, i had to put you on my foe list. Sorry

[Blue_and_Whte]

You have no stats to back you up so you resort to name calling.

I'll accept Fultz is a bad pg if you accept that Bamba is a far superior defender than Vuc.



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Stats have LITERALLY been posted in front of your face. You just refuse to admit that you're wrong...maybe not..maybe you're just lacking in basic reading comprehension. Either way.. Bless your heart.

No they haven't. I've only seen stats that prove Bamba is a superior defender.

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Yes they have repeatedly not just this season but in past seasons, you havent seen them because you choose to ignore facts just like pepe said, including the one a couple of posts above proving how much of a giant troll you are. Coupled with the fact that you used the word superior and mo in same sentence and you've just buried yourself. Thats why nobody takes you seriously.

[MagicFan101]

Why are you guys arguing over the rank order of mid tier starters in a thread about Markelle Fultz?

Fultz and Isaac are the only potential stars on this team. Everyone else is a stopgap, a trade chip or irrelevant.

Debating which group others fall into and how to capitalize on that is worthwhile but trying to say this side piece is better than that one is a waste of time.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Should I grab some popcorn for this thread? It seems to he heading in that direction.

No. It would be a waste of popcorn. This was over before it started. God. We get one high energy game from Mo a month and I cant even enjoy it.

[pepe1991]

Vucevic is a great all round player, with skills wasted on a centre, both ends of the court and plays for his team.

But he's a sheep. Took himself out of his woolly comfort zone briefly twice to get paid twice and then settled back into being very good but allergic to leading a team or putting himself under any more pressure than needs be.

He is very talented and loyal but emphatically not delivering what we need most

Sheep who scores 7 points including game- changing 3 in 4th quater after bad first half?
Sheep that pretty much makes Suns game winable with 2 threes? Even gets fouled ( but refs make mistake)
Sheep that sets tone against Kings dominating matchup, scoring 8 of first 16 Magic points?

Guy shoots whooping 6 threes a a game in January because he recognized with so many injuries somebody needs to streach a damn floor. And he has been best Magic outside shooter in that period. Real sheep or real high IQ basketball player?

Not only that he avreages 21 ppg, 12,6 rebounds and 3 asssists, but he also puts up additional almost 1 steal and 1 block a game.

Oooh and oh boy it does pays out, Magic are 6-2 in this period.

Can we have another "sheep" who understands what it takes ? Would be nice.

[jezzerinho]

Nothing you just posted refutes my assertion that he's a super talented player treading water. Its not his fault hes not a guy who shoulders a team. ORL needs to look for that ability elsewhere and they havent for years.